LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]

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Murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German - Wikipedia

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On Feb 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams & Liberty German were discovered in Delphi, #INDIANA. The suspect in their deaths is awaiting trial.

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant, though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." Even with a lot of media coverage, their murders remain unsolved.
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Tresir said:
Do you have any links for
1. the bullet being between the girls and not under clothes? ( I believe it was between the girls but the clothes were too. A's clothes that wouldn't fit L. )
2. Nonsense science relating to the bullet identified to have ejected from RA's gun?

The Frank's hearing document isn't evidence, I don't believe. I think it previously would have been in the PCA and/or the AA though IMO.

My 2cents on the tasing comment by Cuz.

Maybe the majority of the guards have these patches and tase inmates. We don't know do we? Also he would have more than just these two guards, maybe two to three shifts a day and he has been there a year, so only 2 taser incidents in a year is not a lot so he has been pretty well behaved IMO.
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Total agreement the Franks filing is not evidence. It is of course entirely cherry picked and slanted. All other than FACT in it (and all should be careful to know what is) is hooey most likely. Sure makes for a lot of I guess what some would consider interesting fodder of course AND of course there are maybe a few out there who buy it hook, line and sinker AND think Allen isn't involved at all. I personally think it is also a no brainer that there are things that would dampen their theory or amp up it being Allen but they are not going to use those.

And something I think isn't always the best course is the prosecution is not going to say or share such UNLESS they have to to negate something...Not always bad and they are letting it run its course and perhaps because defense did not get the reaction they wanted from them, they released pictures...

Some of my thoughts when I get even a minute to actually form some...
 
Tresir said:
Article that has the probable cause affidavit in it for confirming facts.

www.kiro7.com

Delphi murders: Unspent bullet at scene ties Richard Allen to girls’ deaths, court docs allege

An unspent .40-caliber bullet found less than two feet from the body of Liberty “Libby” German in 2017 is key evidence tying Allen, a CVS pharmacy technician, to the murders of Liberty "Libby" German and her best friend, Abigail “Abby” Williams.
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This was posted earlier in the thread when it was unsealed but that was some time ago now.
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WIsh I could take the time to reread because honestly going back to things in a case after other things have evolved or come out can be quite interesting in hindsight...
 
buyerninety said:
I've seen on WS the man's name given as Mitch Westerman, reference
is made there to some interview he was in (I EDIT:CAN'Tcan find it on YT), he's a
supposed blowhard, not stated anywhere if it said if this is also the name
of the suicider.

@Tresir said:
Do you have any links for
1. the bullet being between the girls and not under clothes? ( I believe it was
between the girls but the clothes were too. A's clothes that wouldn't fit L. )
2. Nonsense science relating to the bullet identified to have ejected from RA's
gun?

I understood it was well known the bullet was found between the bodies (heck,
it even states it in the Delphi Murders Wiki), I understand one of the girls had
clothes on her - having trouble understanding how the clothes are on a girl,
a girl is on the ground, the bullet is between the girls - how is the bullet under
the clothes then? This ain't no Danny Kaye musical, so if you ever get to see
those pictures of the crime scence and if there are any clothes between
the girls in the photo, well, for sure correct & educate me....................:unsure: .
Bullet allegedly identified to have allegedly ejected from RA's gun - RA's
(previous) attorneys described the alleged bullet match I.D. as "anything
but a science", so OK, hit me up for an IMO. :gavel:

Tresir said:
"Article that has the probable cause affidavit in it for confirming facts."

Probable Cause Affidavit contains alleged facts, alleged by the
Indiana arresting and/or prosecuting authority. Plenty of examples where
Indiana arresting and/or prosecuting authority made untrue allegations,
for example;
Former Cop Spends 13 Years in Prison Due to Wrongful Conviction
No charges against Brookville, Indiana, police officers accused of arresting candidate they thought was anti-police
Hart v. Mannina, 798 F.3d 578 | Casetext Search + Citator

... and now, for instance, we have the allegation from the defence
that Sheriff Tony Liggett falsely inserted 'bloody' into a witness
statement. (So no muddy and bloody... just muddy).
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All interesting thoughts. And generally no filing by either side in most cases is verified fact but charging docs and probable cause proof etc. imo USUALLY are. Not to say that stuff has NEVER been not so, there is no NEVER in almost anything in life.

And to my knowledge, like in Morphew and @Tresir will know what I mean, they do not NEED to give defense arguments in such documents but they do NEED to provide discovery to the defense.

Short of you thinking though that this is all made up, he was framed, things were planted, not sure what your point is. Did muddy and bloody seal the deal all on its own? And we would actually have to hear the witness interview, have we? Maybe they never mentioned bloody to the public back when or where was that quote coming from back when? Or was there a subsequent interview? What is the; basis?

Man if I had a life and time for it and looking into stuff, I'd REALLY be enjoying these discussions on these cases lately and putting a lot more into it and be up on it all more. :(
 
Cousin Dupree said:
If "Bloody" was added by the police, it calls into question other "evidence" they have.
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IF it was. Anyone heard the interview? Maybe bloody was not shared with the public. Even IF it was added, that is a long way from knowing if it was intentional and far from the only thing that got the search warrant.

I would say there are some things that need to come out and be addressed and the "suicide' is one of them.

As far as muddy and /or bloody I guess that can be made into a thing but I'd be hard put in passing some guy and not expecting it, to know which it was. MOST of us would assume mud but who knows on telling or questioning if she was sure and never thought of dried o drying blood for instance? Again we'd need to hear the interview etc. and I am positive we haven't.

But I will give you this, HOPEFULLY this interview was recorded unlike the one of Allen at the grocery store that was but he lost it along with filing the tip and last name as his street name AND figured followup was to find out who the three females were :thud:

I will concede on that one. Surprising that named guy isn't getting more flack and likely is alive and well...

I also concede that this is a mess but which the defense wanted and we still don't know to this day what is really known or contained in the interviews, evidence, etc. Defense's filing is not TRUTH corroborated by a long shot.

And I don't believe for one hot minute that the defense cares about RA in some intimate capacity. Or even defending defendants that passionately. Not for one HOT MINUTE.
 
Huh, planted? No, but if you remember the OJ trial, where detectives
swore that the crime scene was contained, no unneccessary pers
tainted it... then that defence brings the video from across the road
proving there was a virtual conga-line of random LE idiots visiting to
stickybeak the scene....
Just how many & who visited that Delphi crime scene? Did strike-a
-pose Leazenby fail to keep a record of that? Do all his deputies
have that 9mm weapon, or do any carry a .40 cal? The prosecutors
made much of the fact that the Delphi LE are issued 9mm handguns,
but what do the Indiana DNR get issued with? I tried to ascertain this
point months back but couldn't find anything on the internet that clarifies
this. I know many of the nearby States issue their Game Warden types
with .40 cal handguns, for the bear, mountain lion, pigs... sure Indiana
might not have too many of those animals but they sure have deer..
deer in rut are sure dangerous, an antler in the gut will convince anyone
of that... so we know Indiana DNR were helping with the search in the
beginning, did any of them attend the crime scene? DUN whatever-his-
name was apparently failed to property record RA's name when he
talked to RA, that doesn't exactly suggest the DNR are particlarly
competant in the LE part of their function.
Even if the bullet didn't fall from a DNR magazine, that crime scene is
in a hollow, maybe someone in the past practiced their shooting there
and dropped a round, maybe someone carrying a .40 cal walked through
there way in the past, saw a buck, pulled out his .40 cal handgun,
wasn't sure if it had a round in the chamber, cocked it, round gets hand
ejected from the chamber...and there it lays. Impausible? Deer like
to be where they can keep an eye on anything sneaking up on them, in
a hollow anything that comes is instantly skylined for them... read about
when the bodies were discovered, it's findable, the guy said he came
upon deer, stopped (in alarm and fear?), then lowered his eyes and saw
the bodies on the ground closer to him - so deer certainly are known
to be about that hollow. Did someone else, armed, possibly years back,
also come upon deer, with fear and alarm?
And what do we know from the memorandum accompanying the
Franks Hearing request? The prosecution has provided only one picture
of this bullet so far (I gather perhaps the photo of it upon discovery in/on
the ground)... lot of questions a good defense should have thought to
ascertain by now, such as what is the brand/possible lot designation of
the bullet, does the brand/possible lot match the bullets RA had for his
gun, is the brand/possible lot from years old manufacture possibly years
before RA ever bought his handgun, in how many other criminal cases
has the evidence tech given evidence relating to hand-ejection of a
round, his qualifications.
 
buyerninety said:
Huh, planted? No, but if you remember the OJ trial, where detectives
swore that the crime scene was contained, no unneccessary pers
tainted it... then that defence brings the video from across the road
proving there was a virtual conga-line of random LE idiots visiting to
stickybeak the scene....
Just how many & who visited that Delphi crime scene? Did strike-a
-pose Leazenby fail to keep a record of that? Do all his deputies
have that 9mm weapon, or do any carry a .40 cal? The prosecutors
made much of the fact that the Delphi LE are issued 9mm handguns,
but what do the Indiana DNR get issued with? I tried to ascertain this
point months back but couldn't find anything on the internet that clarifies
this. I know many of the nearby States issue their Game Warden types
with .40 cal handguns, for the bear, mountain lion, pigs... sure Indiana
might not have too many of those animals but they sure have deer..
deer in rut are sure dangerous, an antler in the gut will convince anyone
of that... so we know Indiana DNR were helping with the search in the
beginning, did any of them attend the crime scene? DUN whatever-his-
name was apparently failed to property record RA's name when he
talked to RA, that doesn't exactly suggest the DNR are particlarly
competant in the LE part of their function.
Even if the bullet didn't fall from a DNR magazine, that crime scene is
in a hollow, maybe someone in the past practiced their shooting there
and dropped a round, maybe someone carrying a .40 cal walked through
there way in the past, saw a buck, pulled out his .40 cal handgun,
wasn't sure if it had a round in the chamber, cocked it, round gets hand
ejected from the chamber...and there it lays. Impausible? Deer like
to be where they can keep an eye on anything sneaking up on them, in
a hollow anything that comes is instantly skylined for them... read about
when the bodies were discovered, it's findable, the guy said he came
upon deer, stopped (in alarm and fear?), then lowered his eyes and saw
the bodies on the ground closer to him - so deer certainly are known
to be about that hollow. Did someone else, armed, possibly years back,
also come upon deer, with fear and alarm?
And what do we know from the memorandum accompanying the
Franks Hearing request? The prosecution has provided only one picture
of this bullet so far (I gather perhaps the photo of it upon discovery in/on
the ground)... lot of questions a good defense should have thought to
ascertain by now, such as what is the brand/possible lot designation of
the bullet, does the brand/possible lot match the bullets RA had for his
gun, is the brand/possible lot from years old manufacture possibly years
before RA ever bought his handgun, in how many other criminal cases
has the evidence tech given evidence relating to hand-ejection of a
round, his qualifications.
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It would be really nice if every state had Sunshine laws.
 
buyerninety said:
Huh, planted? No, but if you remember the OJ trial, where detectives
swore that the crime scene was contained, no unneccessary pers
tainted it... then that defence brings the video from across the road
proving there was a virtual conga-line of random LE idiots visiting to
stickybeak the scene....
Just how many & who visited that Delphi crime scene? Did strike-a
-pose Leazenby fail to keep a record of that? Do all his deputies
have that 9mm weapon, or do any carry a .40 cal? The prosecutors
made much of the fact that the Delphi LE are issued 9mm handguns,
but what do the Indiana DNR get issued with? I tried to ascertain this
point months back but couldn't find anything on the internet that clarifies
this. I know many of the nearby States issue their Game Warden types
with .40 cal handguns, for the bear, mountain lion, pigs... sure Indiana
might not have too many of those animals but they sure have deer..
deer in rut are sure dangerous, an antler in the gut will convince anyone
of that... so we know Indiana DNR were helping with the search in the
beginning, did any of them attend the crime scene? DUN whatever-his-
name was apparently failed to property record RA's name when he
talked to RA, that doesn't exactly suggest the DNR are particlarly
competant in the LE part of their function.
Even if the bullet didn't fall from a DNR magazine, that crime scene is
in a hollow, maybe someone in the past practiced their shooting there
and dropped a round, maybe someone carrying a .40 cal walked through
there way in the past, saw a buck, pulled out his .40 cal handgun,
wasn't sure if it had a round in the chamber, cocked it, round gets hand
ejected from the chamber...and there it lays. Impausible? Deer like
to be where they can keep an eye on anything sneaking up on them, in
a hollow anything that comes is instantly skylined for them... read about
when the bodies were discovered, it's findable, the guy said he came
upon deer, stopped (in alarm and fear?), then lowered his eyes and saw
the bodies on the ground closer to him - so deer certainly are known
to be about that hollow. Did someone else, armed, possibly years back,
also come upon deer, with fear and alarm?
And what do we know from the memorandum accompanying the
Franks Hearing request? The prosecution has provided only one picture
of this bullet so far (I gather perhaps the photo of it upon discovery in/on
the ground)... lot of questions a good defense should have thought to
ascertain by now, such as what is the brand/possible lot designation of
the bullet, does the brand/possible lot match the bullets RA had for his
gun, is the brand/possible lot from years old manufacture possibly years
before RA ever bought his handgun, in how many other criminal cases
has the evidence tech given evidence relating to hand-ejection of a
round, his qualifications.
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Almost all of what you say here relies on the science being junk science which I disagree with. With all due respect.

Sorry but I do have to laugh at the thought of any midwestern man arresting or being in fear of a deer. Or any woman. I can't even picture a big city type being in fear of a deer but they are a bit different, those who have never in their life been outside a concrete metropolis. I remember someone at JT like that, the place you call WS and I could hardly believe the fear she had of going outside her city and state to get even to another city if it meant traveling outside a city. It is at the same time laughable and incredibly sad and and a problem because it colored her thoughts in almost all cases picturing anything that had more than a palm tree or one nursery tree meant a bear or lion or something took a child, ate a person and THAT is what happened. Such is so far past ridiculous in most cases it isn't even funny. It is funny in one sense as I couldn't even imagine someone with such smarts being so stupid and naive. I mean there are those city folk, city types ya know that just can't even imagine a hollow as ya say but I never knew until then the way such could color their thinking on what happened in a case, cause of death, etc.

All that said, yes, there was no secured scene until I don't even know, hopefully after the find there was somewhat at some point. I don't find that unusual in the least whether a child the age pf three was thought to wander off in the woods or two teens were missing in the woods/a rural area where nothing like this ever occurs. Let\'s be honest it doesn't occur anywhere commonly and is not typical, it would be very likely in the case of a three year old they'd think the child just wandered off (while giving a side eye to the parents and the home) and in the case of two teens??? TWO, TWO teens in an area and town not much happens what would you think? Maybe one got injured and the other couldn't leave her OR OF COURSE that being teens they were pulling something and went off to do something else once they got that freedom from being dropped off/had a plan, etc. to then skedaddle and go do something they shouldn't like to a party, meet up with boys, get picked up for such, etc. PLUS it was TWO girls, not toddlers or anything and what would be the likelihood of what actually happened here being anything that crossed anyone's mind that night or even next morning? Zero/zilch imo.

Where there is no excuse is IF, once found, they messed up with the crime scene. Once they knew they had two dead girls it should have been and went entirely into kicking all out other than LE and securing all and even LE should have then had their orders and what you do and don't do. Did they? I guess I don't know. It is unfortunate that the night before and even the next day people were all over looking but on the other hand isn't that what you do when someone goes missing and again these were teens and two of them. We could say I guess the cops should never have left and had a presence that entire night but again, i don't think they knew what they were dealing with or that there was even any crime ati all.

What they did once the bodies were found is entirely different. How quick they secured. What they took for evidence. Who they called and even when they released the scene and even area, trails, etc. Personally I'd have shut the area down for at least a few days and kept looking and I don't believe they did, did they? I don't care how small town or inexperienced you are at that point you call in help. Help from the state and the feds, expert help. Did they right then or not? At that very moment I mean? I know State was involved of course but when? And the locals still run the show unless they give them the right to take over.

We know the bullet was found after and I believe not by LE so clearly the scene was released by then if that is true. I guess it could be argued cops should have found the bullet but that's easy to say. I don't think it was planted to match up to Allen as Allen wasn't even looked at until years after the bullet was found. Again I do tend to believe in the "science" and what are the odds something found years before matched up with a man looked at only years later?

It is kind of "fishy" to me that news and such is putting out so much sn*w with putting down this science as if in helping the defendant/defense. Imo it wasn't heard near s much in the early days after arrest as it is now and now everyone is touting what they've head about it being a junk science... And everyone now as well is stuck on the Os... Hmmm. Yet no one can interpret apparently the message and/or symbols with the branches but say they exist, just go look. HUH?? Quit claiming it and show them then and how they compare you buffoons! WHY is it no one has? I guess views really take over because if it was a big nothing burger wouldn't be much of a story would it nor would it if ALL believed in the bullet science. I seriously doubt it is because any of them care about Allen.

Seriously has anyone here or elsewhere who says they believe the O sh*t went and found the symbols that match and interpreted the message and shared them or have they watched anyone who has? Not to my knowledge. And that alone says a LOT. All these people buying stuff that no one can even match up.

Anyhow, enough from me on this. Tired, tired, tired brain and body right now.
 
Imamazed said:
www.wrtv.com

Richard Allen attorney files motion to continue representation, asks to have judge removed

On Thursday, attorney Brad Rozzi filed a motion to continue his representation of Allen, claiming the court ambushed he and Baldwin, placing them in a compromising position.
www.wrtv.com www.wrtv.com
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Last night I watched a show that had the record of the events in chambers etc. I was too tired to get here to post it. It was of interest in and of itself and has nothing to do with my following comments. I would suggest reading it if you haven't.

They knew nothing of the leak of photos huh? And why does he say nothing of the suicide (alleged)? I guess their string of at least two guys to cover themselves (and put it at least two steps away from it couldn't be us thinking no one could ever figure it out) COULD have leaked or gotten out of hand on them on their own, but I seriously doubt it. First of all they HAD the photos. That ALONE is not keeping things secure.

Gull only sealed after the filing was already out there and seen also with details never shared before and some photos.

I don't know all the legal ins and outs on this BUT this was not the defense's first "mishiap" or "screw up". They had been WARNED before. I think this is a lot of bluster and if a higher court sides with him, watch out in this world., it has already gone too far down the path of doing such.

The suicided guy was questioned by cops no? Now he is dead. So he can't testify or say that was my statement and what I told them. That seems so very convenient to me. His suicide...

I just don't know any longer other than that all of this sh*t has come from and gone on by the defense. Maybe they have pulled all this because something really corrupt is going on and they truly care for and believe in the innocence of their client BUT I have a hard time believing that. An EXTREMELY hard time.

I do not believe a single word these men say. There is some battle going on here that imo has NOTHING to do with Allen himself. Yet it does ii another way imo. Don't have the time or energy to explain that right now.

The confessions. The confessions blew any case they may have had....

Again this team had been warned before and not taken to task...
 
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Late yesterday afternoon, Court posted a boatload of orders, disqualified and removed Baldwin/Rozzi from the docket entirely; she has blocked them from their ability to file documents on the case.

also, hooray for sunshine laws.

Gull's inexperience or rustiness or whatever ... is evident.

She could have made all the same decisions without having the case go into the dumpster. She didn't. She became vindictive.
Advance planning to publicly shame them (knowing she was firing their asses and setting up cameras to create a threat big enough to avoid any objection and/or hearings over the D's removal) is circus stuff. Not a high enough bar for any court, let alone a double murder.

If - in fact - the Defense was tainted, she just walked into the taint and rubbed it all over herself, the Prosecution, and the entire case.

Spankings all-around from Old Queen O here. :fryingpan:
 
Me thinks Former Defense has option of appeal Court's decisions here; both the manner and decision to remove the Defense counsel(s) and the Court's decision to not conduct hearing to disqualify herself.

This is a technical observation, rather than an opinion so ... no frying pans, please.
 
Olenna said:
Late yesterday afternoon, Court posted a boatload of orders, disqualified and removed Baldwin/Rozzi from the docket entirely; she has blocked them from their ability to file documents on the case.

also, hooray for sunshine laws.

Gull's inexperience or rustiness or whatever ... is evident.

She could have made all the same decisions without having the case go into the dumpster. She didn't. She became vindictive.
Advance planning to publicly shame them (knowing she was firing their asses and setting up cameras to create a threat big enough to avoid any objection and/or hearings over the D's removal) is circus stuff. Not a high enough bar for any court, let alone a double murder.

If - in fact - the Defense was tainted, she just walked into the taint and rubbed it all over herself, the Prosecution, and the entire case.

Spankings all-around from Old Queen O here. :fryingpan:
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Vindictive seems to pretty much sum up this entire case. A judge basically throws an unconvicted subject in a maximum security solitary cell. Then jets out of there. No one involved in this case seems to want to follow protocol/law.
 
buyerninety said:
Huh, planted? No, but if you remember the OJ trial, where detectives
swore that the crime scene was contained, no unneccessary pers
tainted it... then that defence brings the video from across the road
proving there was a virtual conga-line of random LE idiots visiting to
stickybeak the scene....
Just how many & who visited that Delphi crime scene? Did strike-a
-pose Leazenby fail to keep a record of that? Do all his deputies
have that 9mm weapon, or do any carry a .40 cal? The prosecutors
made much of the fact that the Delphi LE are issued 9mm handguns,
but what do the Indiana DNR get issued with? I tried to ascertain this
point months back but couldn't find anything on the internet that clarifies
this. I know many of the nearby States issue their Game Warden types
with .40 cal handguns, for the bear, mountain lion, pigs... sure Indiana
might not have too many of those animals but they sure have deer..
deer in rut are sure dangerous, an antler in the gut will convince anyone
of that... so we know Indiana DNR were helping with the search in the
beginning, did any of them attend the crime scene? DUN whatever-his-
name was apparently failed to property record RA's name when he
talked to RA, that doesn't exactly suggest the DNR are particlarly
competant in the LE part of their function.
Even if the bullet didn't fall from a DNR magazine, that crime scene is
in a hollow, maybe someone in the past practiced their shooting there
and dropped a round, maybe someone carrying a .40 cal walked through
there way in the past, saw a buck, pulled out his .40 cal handgun,
wasn't sure if it had a round in the chamber, cocked it, round gets hand
ejected from the chamber...and there it lays. Impausible? Deer like
to be where they can keep an eye on anything sneaking up on them, in
a hollow anything that comes is instantly skylined for them... read about
when the bodies were discovered, it's findable, the guy said he came
upon deer, stopped (in alarm and fear?), then lowered his eyes and saw
the bodies on the ground closer to him - so deer certainly are known
to be about that hollow. Did someone else, armed, possibly years back,
also come upon deer, with fear and alarm?
And what do we know from the memorandum accompanying the
Franks Hearing request? The prosecution has provided only one picture
of this bullet so far (I gather perhaps the photo of it upon discovery in/on
the ground)... lot of questions a good defense should have thought to
ascertain by now, such as what is the brand/possible lot designation of
the bullet, does the brand/possible lot match the bullets RA had for his
gun, is the brand/possible lot from years old manufacture possibly years
before RA ever bought his handgun, in how many other criminal cases
has the evidence tech given evidence relating to hand-ejection of a
round, his qualifications.
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Not sure what a deer in rut has to do with this. It was February.
 
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