PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.

Questions abound in SC Murdaugh killing. Among them: Should prosecutor step aside?

Several days after two members of a prominent Hampton County family were fatally shot, questions about what happened still vastly outnumber answers.

www.postandcourier.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

If they have been settled they would not count though right? So the murders, the financial crime victims and the boat accident are all I know about. And the boat accident could very likely come back on Buster, not Alex, as Buster let him have his ID to purchase the alcohol.

Arguably he also owes his own former law firm and the partners a lot of money who made things right with some of the victims. I think the list of who he owes or could be made to pay is quite long. Owes his own brother(s) I believe if they wanted to pursue it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

If they have been settled they would not count though right? So the murders, the financial crime victims and the boat accident are all I know about. And the boat accident could very likely come back on Buster, not Alex, as Buster let him have his ID to purchase the alcohol.

But Alex allowed his often drunken boat partying son to take his boat likely knowing full well he'd be drinking and operating it as per his norm.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I know, it is interesting right? I did not know you could even get this info, did you? Is this just Carolina or is it available from all states nationwide?

I'll have another look to see if I can enlarge and screenshot them.

ETA. When I looked at the article and got to the items, I put two fingers on the image and opened the fingers, which made the text bigger and readable. I didn't need to actually click on it, as such. There's 8 pages of incoming calls. Haven't seen the outgoing log yet.

I am pretty sure a FOIA requeste would (or at least should) get you that most anywhere. Most probably aren't looked for or requested other than in a high interest case. My opinion of media is that they don't research or investigate a lot these days. YTers on the other hand do. I know of a few who are requesting court records, interviews, phone records, and anything they can get with FOIA requests.

And yes, very interesting. Alex is quite busy it seems, just in reading what is sent to him by lovesick idiots imo.

 

[Tresir]

But Alex allowed his often drunken boat partying son to take his boat likely knowing full well he'd be drinking and operating it as per his norm.

I don't know much of the details of that. I haven't followed it that closely. I do know they are also suing the store that sold Paul the alcohol but he showed them a valid ID, albeit his brother's who gave him it, so I think Buster may be on the line for this one, not Alex IMO.

 

[Guess Who]

Arguably he also owes his own former law firm and the partners a lot of money who made things right with some of the victims. I think the list of who he owes or could be made to pay is quite long. Owes his own brother(s) I believe if they wanted to pursue it.

yes, there are so many judgements that would come first in line.

 

[Guess Who]

If they have been settled they would not count though right? So the murders, the financial crime victims and the boat accident are all I know about. And the boat accident could very likely come back on Buster, not Alex, as Buster let him have his ID to purchase the alcohol.

Settled doesn't mean that they have been paid yet. They will be first in line for any $$ coming in.

 

[Tresir]

Settled doesn't mean that they have been paid yet. They will be first in line for any $$ coming in.

The beach house sold for almost a million last year and the ranch sold recently for $3.9m so that's almost $5m so far. I think Buster settled the boat incident but don't know for how much or whether it has been paid yet, so it is just the financial cases now, I think, which include the Satterfield case.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't know much of the details of that. I haven't followed it that closely. I do know they are also suing the store that sold Paul the alcohol but he showed them a valid ID, albeit his brother's who gave him it, so I think Buster may be on the line for this one, not Alex IMO.

I'm not saying Buster or the store isn't, I am saying they ALL should or could be on the line for it and Alex too. I'm not sure they named Buster however, in the suit.

 

[Tresir]

I'm not saying Buster or the store isn't, I am saying they ALL should or could be on the line for it and Alex too. I'm not sure they named Buster however, in the suit.

Here's the details of the settlement, as reported in January. Apparently, Maggie allowed Paul to use her credit card to purchase the alcohol and Buster allowed use of his ID. So I think it is now just the financial victims like Sattersfield, which maybe will be payrolled by the Netflix series.

Murdaughs reach settlement with family of Mallory Beach, who died in fatal 2019 Murdaugh boat crash | Fox News

Mallory Beach died in apparently booze-fueled boating trip along the South Carolina coast in the Murdaugh family's boat in 2019

www.foxnews.com

 

[Tresir]

Here are the details of the financial charges. IME the tax man is always top of the "victim" list when it comes time to pay.

Alex Murdaugh has admitted to dozens of financial crimes and faces over 700 years in prison for those concessions alone

Spread over 19 different indictments are 99 financial-related charges that mean Alex Murdaugh will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars no matter what.

lawandcrime.com

Attorney General Alan Wilson announces State Grand Jury issues tax evasion indictments against Richard Alexander Murdaugh - South Carolina Attorney General

The nine indictments are one for each tax year from 2011 thru to 2019.

I have added it up and the tax evasion across these nine counts amounts to approx half a million dollars of unpaid tax. This unpaid tax appears to be what has been calculated as owing on money illegally taken from clients/the firm and/or money laundering activities.


You can see the indictments here.

 

[Guess Who]

Here's the details of the settlement, as reported in January. Apparently, Maggie allowed Paul to use her credit card to purchase the alcohol and Buster allowed use of his ID. So I think it is now just the financial victims like Sattersfield, which maybe will be payrolled by the Netflix series.

Murdaughs reach settlement with family of Mallory Beach, who died in fatal 2019 Murdaugh boat crash | Fox News

Mallory Beach died in apparently booze-fueled boating trip along the South Carolina coast in the Murdaugh family's boat in 2019

www.foxnews.com

It doesn't say Maggie gave him permission to use it, let alone to buy alcohol.

 

[Tresir]

This article details the victims of Alex Murdaugh.

A roll call of pain and suffering: Remembering the alleged victims of Alex Murdaugh

As Alex Murdaugh begins paying for spilling the blood of his wife and son, their families, friends and other victims cry out for truth and answers.

eu.greenvilleonline.com

 

[Tresir]

It doesn't say Maggie gave him permission to use it, let alone to buy alcohol.

Tinsley doesn't say she didn't either. He says allegedly and now it can never be confirmed or denied as she is now dead. And the boat partially belonged to Maggie.

"Paul Murdaugh allegedly used a credit card belonging to his mother, Maggie Murdaugh, and ID belonging to elder brother Buster Murdaugh, to illegally purchase alcohol while underage from a convenience store owned by Parker’s Corporation earlier that day. The boat Paul Murdaugh was driving that evening belonged partially to Maggie and partially to Alex Murdaugh, Tinsley explained."

 

[Guess Who]

Tinsley doesn't say she didn't either. He says allegedly and now it can never be confirmed or denied as she is now dead. And the boat partially belonged to Maggie.

"Paul Murdaugh allegedly used a credit card belonging to his mother, Maggie Murdaugh, and ID belonging to elder brother Buster Murdaugh, to illegally purchase alcohol while underage from a convenience store owned by Parker’s Corporation earlier that day. The boat Paul Murdaugh was driving that evening belonged partially to Maggie and partially to Alex Murdaugh, Tinsley explained."

using and giving permission to use are very different matters. You claimed it said she gave him permission to use it to buy liquor.

 

[Tresir]

So sue me. Actually I said 'apparently'. If you want to interpret Tinsley's words differently then you can read and interpret and post yourself. The facts will never be verified now because they have settled and two of the named respondents have been murdered.

 

[Tresir]

Ok I am now going to go thru the 9 indictments again and add up the financial amounts stolen/laundered etc over the 9 years. This will only be a rough amount but I am expecting it to come to around the previously mentioned $8m figure IIRC.

ETA I have added it up twice and I make it around $7m from these 9 items/years listed. It is all from clients settlement amounts over the 9 years shown.

ETA 2 The additional indictment upthread for 2020 and 2021 is for another illegal million so that makes it the total of $8 million dollars we have been hearing about.

 

[Guess Who]

So sue me. Actually I said 'apparently'. If you want to interpret Tinsley's words differently then you can read and interpret and post yourself. The facts will never be verified now because they have settled and two of the named respondents have been murdered.

I just didn't want it to become "fact" that she allowed it. For all we know, Paul lifted it from her. Buster more than likely gave him his ID, but again, for all we know, Paul could have lifted it, too.

 

[Guess Who]

I just didn't want it to become "fact" that she allowed it. For all we know, Paul lifted it from her. Buster more than likely gave him his ID, but again, for all we know, Paul could have lifted it, too.

I could also see how the place of purchase could be sued due to the cc used not matching the id.

 

[Tresir]

This is an article from March that states how the funds from the Moselle sale will be distributed. I don't think it has been posted before. This is how it looks like the $3.9 million gets distributed according to the article.

$m

2.8 boat victims
0.53 BM
0.3 Settlement fund approx
0.27 remainder for creditors/legal fees

3.9 total

Murdaugh estate sells for $3.9 million. Here's who will get the money.

Moselle, the 1,700-acre hunting lodge where Paul and Maggie Murdaugh were killed, was sold recently, property records show.

www.cbsnews.com

From the link -

The boat crash killed a 19-year-old woman, Mallory Beach. The bulk of the proceeds, about $2.7 million, will go to Beach's family, as well as two survivors of the crash, the newspaper said. Another boat crash survivor will receive $100,000, while Buster Murdaugh will receive $530,000. Almost $300,000 in additional funds will go to a settlement fund for creditors and financial victims of Alex Murdaugh, among other payments to creditors and to cover legal fees.

 

[Tresir]

Edisto Island beach house that sold for $955k last year is up for sale again at $1.18m.

Moselle sells for $3.6 million.

Where the money will go -see below. It does not say how Alex's appeal will be funded.

From the last link below -

"Here’s how the money will be broken up, according to court documents:

• John Marvin Murdaugh, Alex’s brother, will use $290,000 to pay the estate’s outstanding legal fees
• $6,511.52 will go to Laura Jones, LLC -- a creditor with a claim against the estate
• Buster Murdaugh, Alex’s surviving son, will get $530,000.
• $100,000 will go to attorney Joseph McCulloch, who is representing boat crash victim Connor Cook in a civil suit against Buster
• The co-receivers will receive $275,000 for the common fund, which will eventually go to more victims
• $25,000 will go to Palmetto State Bank, which also has a claim against the estate
• The remaining funds will go to attorney Mark Tinsley, who is representing three other parties from the boat wreck: Morgan Doughty, Miley Altman and the estate of Mallory Beach who was killed in the crash"

(By my calculation the remaining funds would be $3.6m less $1.226m ie approx $2.3m)

Exclusive | Beach house Alex Murdaugh quietly sold after arrest sells again months later

The Edisto Island getaway, which Murdaugh and his wife’s estate sold last year for $955,000, is selling once more — and only months later.

nypost.com

Murdaugh family’s Moselle property sold

The deed for the sale of Moselle, the Murdaugh family’s hunting lodge in the Lowcountry, was filed on Wednesday.

www.foxcarolina.com

Murdaugh’s Moselle property is about to sell. Here’s where the money will go

An attorney working closely with the sale of the property says the deal is expected to be finalized next week for $3.7 million.

www.foxcarolina.com

Bringing this forward from March as it is the same subject so we can compare.