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GrandmaBear said:
Wow. Sounds pretty political but very well may be true. Hard to say. I keep saying idiots run the world but regardless of who the party is or what country, could be abuse of power by all, politics, etc. and I may change it to creeps run the world although often it's an agenda. Doesn't mean for one minute though most aren't the same...

Enough said I guess but why does it all become political? Just do JUSTICE. Not sure how your country works vs. ours but I see it in most of the civilized countries, can't think of the word, sorry. If he did this that is ALL that matters, if he didn't that is ALL that matters. And justice for victims becomes a political thing...

I known better than to talk politics but I AM talking generally and others get away with it, my position has always been at least in our country they are almost all the same, and we think they are enemies but they aren't. It's just what they do for the public...

Who can judge when an agenda comes in. Race cases tend to be the same...

So what do you think of your country and this? Not sure what to think here. I would normally jump to he needs to go to prison for life but when they have to add the political thing well... They need to separate politics and justice in every single way imo.

Hopefully the younger generations than us will try to do something but it won't work.

I lean towards guilt but again politics here...
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I have never known an MP be arrested and charged for such serious offences before. Will follow the case and update.

Ok a bit more info in this one but it still sounds very serous. This POS is also the Mayor of the West of England and was a teacher and a former child protection officer. Yeah right. I understand he was charged and bailed but immediately sacked as an MP by PM Starmer.


Labour suspends MP Dan Norris after arrest

Labour suspends MP Dan Norris after arrest​

Norris was reportedly detained on charges that include suspicion of rape and child sex offenses.

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A Labour Party spokesman said Dan Norris "was immediately suspended by the Labour Party upon being informed of his arrest.” | AFP via Getty
APRIL 6, 2025 8:26 AM CET
BY JONES HAYDEN
Labour MP Dan Norris was suspended by the party after being arrested, a party spokesman said on Saturday.

While the party gave no details on the arrest, British media reported that Norris, 65, was detained on allegations that include suspicion of rape and child sex offenses.

“Dan Norris MP was immediately suspended by the Labour Party upon being informed of his arrest,” a party spokesman said late Saturday, according to the BBC and other outlets. “We cannot comment further while the police investigation is ongoing,” the spokesman said.
Norris, a former Labour minister who defeated Jacob Rees-Mogg as MP for North East Somerset and Hanham in last year’s general election, was taken into custody after police raided his constituency home on Friday, the Guardian reported.

Avon and Somerset Police said a man in his 60s was arrested on Friday on suspicion of sexual offenses against a girl, rape, child abduction and misconduct in public office, the Independent reported. He was released on conditional bail.

“Most of the offenses are alleged to have occurred in the 2000s but we’re also investigating an alleged offence of rape from the 2020s,” Avon and Somerset Police said in a statement. “An investigation, led by officers within Operation Bluestone, our dedicated rape and serious sexual assault investigation team, remains ongoing and at an early stage,” it said.

Norris, who served as a junior environment minister from 2009 to 2010, hasn’t issued a public statement since the incident.

His wiki page -

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Dan Norris - Wikipedia

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Tresir said:
I have never known an MP be arrested and charged for such serious offences before. Will follow the case and update.

Ok a bit more info in this one but it still sounds very serous. This POS is also the Mayor of the West of England and was a teacher and a former child protection officer. Yeah right. I understand he was charged and bailed but immediately sacked as an MP by PM Starmer.


Labour suspends MP Dan Norris after arrest

Labour suspends MP Dan Norris after arrest​

Norris was reportedly detained on charges that include suspicion of rape and child sex offenses.

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A Labour Party spokesman said Dan Norris "was immediately suspended by the Labour Party upon being informed of his arrest.” | AFP via Getty
APRIL 6, 2025 8:26 AM CET
BY JONES HAYDEN
Labour MP Dan Norris was suspended by the party after being arrested, a party spokesman said on Saturday.

While the party gave no details on the arrest, British media reported that Norris, 65, was detained on allegations that include suspicion of rape and child sex offenses.

“Dan Norris MP was immediately suspended by the Labour Party upon being informed of his arrest,” a party spokesman said late Saturday, according to the BBC and other outlets. “We cannot comment further while the police investigation is ongoing,” the spokesman said.
Norris, a former Labour minister who defeated Jacob Rees-Mogg as MP for North East Somerset and Hanham in last year’s general election, was taken into custody after police raided his constituency home on Friday, the Guardian reported.

Avon and Somerset Police said a man in his 60s was arrested on Friday on suspicion of sexual offenses against a girl, rape, child abduction and misconduct in public office, the Independent reported. He was released on conditional bail.

“Most of the offenses are alleged to have occurred in the 2000s but we’re also investigating an alleged offence of rape from the 2020s,” Avon and Somerset Police said in a statement. “An investigation, led by officers within Operation Bluestone, our dedicated rape and serious sexual assault investigation team, remains ongoing and at an early stage,” it said.

Norris, who served as a junior environment minister from 2009 to 2010, hasn’t issued a public statement since the incident.

His wiki page -

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Dan Norris - Wikipedia

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I read a good part of his wiki page, not all. He co wrote a book on how not to be bullied?? For children. Long time advocate of stopping fox hunting. Teacher, social worker, child advocate or something like that (I forget already)? One can see the political in it, or how opposition would love him taken down. He was "accosted" by supporters at an event, man does that sound like here...

I guarantee you that you know far more about our politics than I do of yours. If he did these things he is a total POS but it's so hard when the politics play in to know. On the other hand, it's unfortunately not uncommon for those in power or gravitating to jobs like some of these it seems to do the kinds of things he is accused of. So do I have it right and he's a lib and conservatives don't like him? That's putting it very basic but I lack words, just woke up. Also trying to skirt political talk makes it hard too.

You are kind of impressive that you are pretty knowledgeable on our politics while i'd dare say most of us aren't up and some maybe don't even care much about yours. Or so it would seem. I know I'm not up on them but it isn't for lack of interest and imo worldwide things are going on and have been for some time in all of our countries to just make a basic statement, again skirting any further one.

It's hard to know what to think but do I have it right that he has been accused by those who are adults, or adults now? Hard to know what to think just because one can see there could be a political motivation here but then again many of them in power are creeps anywhere and abuse it, etc. Again not best wording.

Yeah will have to learn more and see what shakes out I guess... If you have an opinion, let me know by PM where more could be said since I am not as up on your politics and because it's hard to say a lot more for me too to avoid the political. I don't know enough of the people involved, nor the politics, to form an opinion and so I truly don't have one.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I read a good part of his wiki page, not all. He co wrote a book on how not to be bullied?? For children. Long time advocate of stopping fox hunting. Teacher, social worker, child advocate or something like that (I forget already)? One can see the political in it, or how opposition would love him taken down. He was "accosted" by supporters at an event, man does that sound like here...

I guarantee you that you know far more about our politics than I do of yours. If he did these things he is a total POS but it's so hard when the politics play in to know. On the other hand, it's unfortunately not uncommon for those in power or gravitating to jobs like some of these it seems to do the kinds of things he is accused of. So do I have it right and he's a lib and conservatives don't like him? That's putting it very basic but I lack words, just woke up. Also trying to skirt political talk makes it hard too.

You are kind of impressive that you are pretty knowledgeable on our politics while i'd dare say most of us aren't up and some maybe don't even care much about yours. Or so it would seem. I know I'm not up on them but it isn't for lack of interest and imo worldwide things are going on and have been for some time in all of our countries to just make a basic statement, again skirting any further one.

It's hard to know what to think but do I have it right that he has been accused by those who are adults, or adults now? Hard to know what to think just because one can see there could be a political motivation here but then again many of them in power are creeps anywhere and abuse it, etc. Again not best wording.

Yeah will have to learn more and see what shakes out I guess... If you have an opinion, let me know by PM where more could be said since I am not as up on your politics and because it's hard to say a lot more for me too to avoid the political. I don't know enough of the people involved, nor the politics, to form an opinion and so I truly don't have one.
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He has actually been charged with serious offences. This isnt about politics but yes he is (or was) a sitting Member of Parliament has previously been a minister in previous goverments and in local government. The historic offences are from about 20 years ago I believe. He was a Labour politician ie Sir Keir Starmer's party that is in power now.
 
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Tresir said:
He has actually been charged with serious offensives. This isnt about politics but yes he is (or was) a sitting Member of Parliament has previously been a minister in previous goverments and in local government. The historic offences are from about 20 years ago I believe. He was a Labour politician ie Sir Keir Starmer's party that is in power now.
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Oh I get the seriousness and I'm very harsh on these creeps that do these things. I probably wasn't very clear on how politics could play in. I usually, always almost actually, go to victim side but I just don't know enough here and at least here there is sometimes claimed to be a political reason and "claims" they are manufactured charges by getting some woman to claim such. I generally don't believe it, but just trying to explain that one has to wonder at times as both sides will go hard at it... Just don't know enough. I lean though of course towards the victims.

He doesn't look real young in the Wiki thing, is this the first time claims like this have come?
 
GrandmaBear said:
Oh I get the seriousness and I'm very harsh on these creeps that do these things. I probably wasn't very clear on how politics could play in. I usually, always almost actually, go to victim side but I just don't know enough here and at least here there is sometimes claimed to be a political reason and "claims" they are manufactured charges by getting some woman to claim such. I generally don't believe it, but just trying to explain that one has to wonder at times as both sides will go hard at it... Just don't know enough. I lean though of course towards the victims.

He doesn't look real young in the Wiki thing, is this the first time claims like this have come?
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i think his age is in the wiki. I would imagine this is the first time as lawmakers are not supposed to break the law LOL. I have never heard of him before and he has been an MP and was a minister in the Blair government. We will have to wait for the court case or maybe the Sunday papers have covered it.
 
Tresir said:
i think his age is in the wiki. I would imagine this is the first time as lawmakers are not supposed to break the law LOL. I have never heard of him before and he has been an MP and was a minister in the Blair government. We will have to wait for the court case or maybe the Sunday papers have covered it.
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So you aren't familiar with him either much.

Yeah, I just need to know more imo. Seems odd his first charges are at an older age. However, maybe no one came forward in all the yrs. out of fear and who he was. I would doubt he started doing such at an older age, most do it most of their life.

I am victim first, I think all know that but haven't formed an opinion here, just not enough yet.

Seen you mention Sunday papers a couple of times in maybe a couple of threads. Kind of makes me think. Are they still a big thing there? I got a few when I first came up here but mostly because of the coupons lol. Been a long time. I don't think my mom even gets a paper any longer other than the local town one and she may even read that online.

I am still one who prefers to handwrite and read a physical book or magazine rather than on a device. Probably always will be lol. Our news though? I don't consider it news in many a case, it is biased.

Let me ask you, does it work there like here. It used to be by the time someone was an adult it was too far past the statute of limitations for the perp to be criminally charged, but some years ago it was mostly changed (not sure if fed or all states) that like rape victims or child ab victims couldn't get anyone charged years later but they changed it so they can as many only start realizing things as an adult, or maybe facing things, etc.
 
GrandmaBear said:
So you aren't familiar with him either much.

Yeah, I just need to know more imo. Seems odd his first charges are at an older age. However, maybe no one came forward in all the yrs. out of fear and who he was. I would doubt he started doing such at an older age, most do it most of their life.

I am victim first, I think all know that but haven't formed an opinion here, just not enough yet.

Seen you mention Sunday papers a couple of times in maybe a couple of threads. Kind of makes me think. Are they still a big thing there? I got a few when I first came up here but mostly because of the coupons lol. Been a long time. I don't think my mom even gets a paper any longer other than the local town one and she may even read that online.

I am still one who prefers to handwrite and read a physical book or magazine rather than on a device. Probably always will be lol. Our news though? I don't consider it news in many a case, it is biased.

Let me ask you, does it work there like here. It used to be by the time someone was an adult it was too far past the statute of limitations for the perp to be criminally charged, but some years ago it was mostly changed (not sure if fed or all states) that like rape victims or child ab victims couldn't get anyone charged years later but they changed it so they can as many only start realizing things as an adult, or maybe facing things, etc.
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I am not well up on our statute of limitations for different offences. I will have to gen up on it. I had never heard of this MP creep and he was part of Blair's government years ago. Some of these are just on the public official gravy train and do nothing when they are actually in these jobs except abuse their positions. Hiring their relatives or lovers in the Hall of Westminster etc.

Re our Sunday papers, they usually have all the gossip and sensational stuff. Eg they probably have a Russell Brand scoop. Will have to have a look.
 
Tresir said:
I am not well up on our statute of limitations for different offences. I will have to gen up on it. I had never heard of this MP creep and he was part of Blair's government years ago. Some of these are just on the public official gravy train and do nothing when they are actually in these jobs except abuse their positions. Hiring their relatives or lovers in the Hall of Westminster etc.

Re our Sunday papers, they usually have all the gossip and sensational stuff. Eg they probably have a Russell Brand scoop. Will have to have a look.
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I do recall Tony Blair, used to be more up on some things. So I know who you mean there, I have the first name, right?

Abuse of positions, hiring relatives or lovers or screwing over the other guy in a position's wife, etc. Sounds a lot like here. Story of the world I'd actually say.

Don't get up on the statutes because of me, just wondered. Only do if want to for yourself, no big deal.

I don't go for generally sensational or gossipy but in the same breath sometimes there is a bit of truth sometimes. I rarely look at such. Some of them will cross boundaries and "get more".

I actually consider when we talked of media sources DM a bit of a rag BUT I do read them when linked. So your Sunday papers are gossipy and sensational? And they are here too or have people here. One of the biggest ones that ever happened in somewhat my neck of the wood for years they are the only ones that got pictures no one else did. I suspect they paid some officer or someone to get near. Because I have heard they pay... Where it is hard to believe but I guess some news orgs try to follow some ethics or maybe they simply were not there...

They got a few others in the case too that no one else did.

I am pretty anti news and definitely rag BUT rags or gossipy stuff let's say get some stuff others don't as let's face it, there are people in this world and cases that will talk or let someone in for pay or bribes or whatever...

They often have things wrong, probably trying to go to press fast and honestly I see that with all news these days...

Trying hard to lighten up, day went a bit south, but in that effort, I have never been one to read People magazine or ever buy one, the National Enquirer here (do they even exist any longer, no idea, never see them though) and since I'm older, some would know they were always by the checkouts. I'd never buy one but if you got stuck waiting in line, yeah I'd glance at the front page as I'm waiting. I'd read them in doctor's offices and the only other time is if I was taking a trip, I'd get one for the trip, like a People. I don't know, it was more like an indulgence that I figured was gossipy about Hollywood and you name it and never went for it. And at least back when I figured not real news and yeah, more sensational. But when older, where there is smoke there is often fire right and if smart enough as most are to take from different sources and determine what is likely true without just buying all from one source then they may serve their purpose... At times. Not sure that makes any sense but I do know what I mean. It's just that some eat up and believe one source... i know you don't as you give all sides you find.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
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Boy found dead in Oxnard was with soccer coach before going missing, family says

Oscar Hernandez's body was found in Oxnard this week. His family says he was with his soccer coach shortly before they reported him missing.
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Boy found dead in Oxnard was with soccer coach before going missing, family says​

The body of a missing 13-year-old boy was found in Ventura County on Wednesday, the family confirmed to FOX 11. Relatives say that he was with his soccer coach just before they reported him missing.

Oscar was reported missing over the weekend, according to the LAPD. He was last seen near Lancaster.

Oscar's family told FOX 11 on Thursday that he was supposed to be with a man they described as his soccer coach on the day he went missing. Oscar played soccer regularly at Whitsett Park in North Hollywood.

Older brother Jose said he tried to call Oscar on Saturday, but the coach answered the phone, saying that Oscar couldn't come to the phone. The phone went dead after that.

Daniel Hernandez, Oscar's father, eventually got in touch with the coach, who said he had dropped Oscar off "near" their house. That's when the family called the police.
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Soccer coach charged with murder of former player; additional sexual assault victims sought​

The coach of a missing 13-year-old who was found dead last week in Ventura County has been charged with the boy’s murder, and now authorities are searching for additional victims who may have been sexually assaulted by him.
 
Can't right now look just don't need to add some at the moment but people like this go towards such positions. In the cooking shows I watch and there are a number of them probably 75 percent of the women home school their kids. Which I entirely agree with. I'm not talking all in authority, schools, you name it and a host of other reasons I'd do it too if i could, and there is one that seems to be more gaming and such with them, MAYBE she is schooling enough, hard to say, but she inflicts her views on her cooking channel so I quit her. Not why I watch. Most seem to do it well and there are good reasons they home school.

Anyhow just from what i can read from not going into it, there are probably a number of victims.

We had an awful one here years ago... I've touched on it in the past. He was the administrator if I recall AND a coach. And it was boys around this age. And no one who cares would like hearing how it came out and the kid who came forward killed himself. Well not "here" but where I had lived.

There have been a few teachers again lately, females too. WTH!
 
I posted about this on the non crime thread then deleted it when i realised my mistake. Then got sidetracked doing something but here's my link. The perp used molotov cocktails.

Pennysylvania Governors residence subject of arson attack.

 
Tresir said:
I posted about this on the non crime thread then deleted it when i realised my mistake. Then got sidetracked doing something but here's my link. The perp used molotov cocktails.

Pennysylvania Governors residence subject of arson attack.

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I didn't realize how bad it was until a couple of hours ago. :(
 
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