ONGOING CRIME BREAKING NEWS!
Starting on January 31ST, 2025, this thread is about CRIME NEWS as it breaks!
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ONGOING CRIME BREAKING NEWS!
Starting on January 31ST, 2025, this thread is about CRIME NEWS as it breaks!
GrandmaBear
Deputized Emu Slayer/Horse Thief Hunter
Yeah there are arguments and points both ways... I rarely stick up for my apartment complex as you well know but there are some things that make me feel more secure... First off there are laws about walls between units/fire walls. We have a blasting alarm that only the fire dept or a mgr can shut off. The fire dept. is close by. The PD is close by. My location is one thing I can't complain about and is ideal. The apt. sucks but the location is great. The elevators also have connections to LE and help.
If I fell and could not get up, I do have a downstairs neighbor. They make noise, play music loudly at odd hours and I think had a fight the other night. But I could pound on the floor and HOPE they'd check it out eventually... Or get tired of it and complain... I also have a person to one side/apartment, other side is hallway so no one on that side...
I have been a homeowner most of my adult life and I get it, I just sold my last home in October. I lecture one of my daughters on my belief is the best thing they can do is buy and own their own home. One daughter owns, one does not...
I was finally in the boat I could buy again, two years at the job, money in the bank, etc... and then I fell at work. I have to tell you though, I waver a bit about it... You are married and not alone. I wanted to keep my 12 acres, SO private, but then being there alone is a bit worrisome too... Apartment living you know you have other people in the building, you also in my case know five days a week a good manager is present, maintenance, etc. Again my location is prime. In my rural location I was probably 45 minutes from the county sheriff's department had I ever needed help... No idea about the fire department but know we were small town volunteer... I doubt they are well versed or great at bombs...
Nuts like this can exist anywhere... The other good thing I'd say is about our mgr. She is probably the only reason I am still here. She has stayed the manager through many sales and corporate changes. She has her finger on who is in each unit and she knows her sh*t. She knows the cops and she knows the FD. Lol uhm she should with all our b.s. fire alarm pulls that got so darned old...
I guess my point just is that I know what you mean and would have used to probably feel that way, but not so sure these days... Such can go on anywhere and says someone did a home invasion on you, the chances of anyone hearing, noticing, calling for help are a lot slimmer...God what crime and story did I read one time, it was horrid, awful. I believe a suburban home.... Perps all methed up... Not a home or person near them had a clue...
I don't know. I'm not sure I want to live in a home again on my own. I thought I did but not so sure now... I just heard my neighbor's outer door shut. I know I am not here alone. I actually like that feeling since falling...It is Sunday so I know our manager is not on but will be tomorrow, but I know quite a few people are home...
There ARE things I do like about apt. living. I don't name them very often, that sure is true. My garbage never has to go outside, it goes two doors down to a chute. I have delivery with anything. I don't shovel. I don't mow. I am just blocks from work and every convenience. Since I take a garage spot, I basically never have to go outside in the winter until I get out of my car at work.. I am like two blocks from work. We have a huge pool I do not maintain. We have an all new exercise room my daughter was like all about checking out, my key didn't fit or work, and she herself went and found the manager, who knows she is my daughter and got a key lol as she wants to use it. I don't exercise but have at it daughter... Like I said the location is PRIMO.
I feel safe here too. We've had no bombs. I've probably been here what, ten years? Our manager vets residents pretty well and keeps on top of things...
Anyhow, to end this, I'm just not sure I agree. I could find and get help quickly and get out quickly. Response time would be fast. I guess it does not matter if you are blown up anywhere. I know this, it isn't anything I worry about, think about, or sweat. THere are many apartment livers on this site. Most of us have griped at times. However, not about anything like this.
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I honestly feel safer here, at the moment. I looked at a few homes for sale, and I've looked at a few other rentals in the last year as well... With each one, I Just could not see myself living there or feeling safe... Location, condition, etc... This place is not perfect BUT I do feel safe.
Any crime can happen anyWHERE.
When I sold my home in October, I thanked God. I had such privacy there for so long but in the last months, there was a neighboring 12 acres no one had ever lived on, no home, no electric, septic, etc. and here came a number of people in campers first in the summer and then they tried to live there in the winter in them... I'd bet, and win, they were likely meth heads, some anyhow.... I met them, talked with a few, etc. and was VERY worried whether my home would sell with what the place next door looked like... Uhm, I feel safer in this apartment than living in that separate, quite private home and property and of course they knew when I was there and if I was alone... They'd likely be more apt to be bomb makers than anyone in this apt complex AND I have people around me here and the FD and PD right nearby and did not have there.
And so.....
Long-winded but just saying I don't agree at all... At this age, alone, after falling, I don't want to live in a home alone right now.... I do want my privacy and own place, and I have such with an apt... I am going to order delivery (grocery) today, love that too, couldn't get that at the rural home. They will bring it to my door, up two floors and inside if I ask them to. Yeah it has its perks. My chiro is like three blocks away. Again the location is PRIMO. And guess what, a plane could crash into either of our homes as well...
Also I live in a fairly small city and not near anywhere as big as KC. Crime is way way lower.
So I guess just saying you can't control all, and yes, anything can happen... Anywhere.
Guess Who
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Fire walls are only between a certain amount of units, not between each unit and none between floors and most attics have no firewall at all, which is how this particular fire spread.
Guess Who
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My city LE is also run by the state, so our mayor and our police force has their hands tied on crime at any time. Everything has to be run through the state first.
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RoundPeg
Eradicate hamas.
I'm guessing there were no sprinkler systems or smoke/fire alarms installed either.
Guess Who
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No to sprinkler systems. They had smoke alarms. That's what alerted the tenant to the food they forgot was cooking on the stove. The fire alarms don't work well with an attic fire because the smoke is above them. By the time the smoke gets to the alarm, it's usually because the fire has broke through the ceiling already since smoke rises.
RoundPeg
Eradicate hamas.
Well if the alarms were tied into a central system the FD would have known.
Cousin Dupree
Glory to #Ukraine 🇺🇦✊🏻
She had nothing to do with them, but bomb making instructions were found in her handwriting.
Guess Who
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The building was older than that for that system to be tied in. The units did have working detectors according to Independence FD.
Guess Who
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Brainiac, that one is.She had nothing to do with them, but bomb making instructions were found in her handwriting.
GrandmaBear
Deputized Emu Slayer/Horse Thief Hunter
No idea. I do know neighbor above me I swear is going to come falling through and all his stuff, the ceiling one day... That a story in itself.
I don't think of or worry about such things on a daily basis, meaning fire walls, etc. I try not to be a person who is not enjoying life because they worry that this or that or any imaginable thing could happen.. Doesn't mean I don't try to be relatively safe and smart.... Meaning I don't go for long walks in the city at night by myself, or with anyone for that matter... Daughter and I did that one night a few blocks, and uhm, yeah, it's a pretty safe city but did we run into a bit, yep, uh huh... A couple of guys in a car sitting where we could not see it until we came past the building, we gave them a wide skirt... We responded no thanks kind of thing and kept on walking...
I don't feel unsafe in my building. Maybe I should, I mean I don't know the half of who lives here and it is fairly big, three flours three buildings with units. I truly DO feel safer than I think I would right now in a home alone... Of course I have found out I am quite mortal and dealing with quite the injuries right now and I have a fear of falling again, I can't help such right now, and can tell you that right now I am glad I don't live somewhere separate like a home... At the moment anyhow. It's funny too because all I ever wanted until recently was to get back to having and owning my own home... But do you know what? When I did, I had kids at home, it was not just me. And later a husband at home. And grandkids over a lot, etc. staying the night.
I have thought about this as I was starting to house hunt (before I fell) and I'm not sure what I want.... One home was on a very busy street, my SIL said it was a good area, he grew up here, but I was like I don't know... Areas that were good when any of us were kids have changed, at least they have in my home town... I felt like that house was a fishbowl. The house was a bit odd too. As to rooms, etc... I just did not think I'd want to live there...
My mom lives alone and she is going to be 81 and I do too, but I mean she is in her own home... She feels safe, I don't for her sometimes, but that's me. She is on a dead end in town and has neighbors she knows to each side but the places across from her are rentals and the occupants change all of the time. If you recall, I spent a year with her and man there was stuff going on across the street. She has her set ways and goes to bed but I am a night owl... She is likely safe for the most part, city is about 8,000. She's in pretty good health, you'd never know she was 81 if you met her. You'd maybe put her at 70 at most.
She came through a year off colon cancer, surgery and chemo. I think just a year ago she broke her ankle, had a scooter, etc., pretty big deal. Her home has a full finished basement. Right now my nephew is living down there...
Anyhow, she missed her last step or two going down to her lower level. No one was living with her then and her friends were actually there to help her with something but I thought OMG what if she had been alone???? She likely would have laid there for days or tried to crawl if possible. She is NOT someone who make sure she has her phone on her, even sometimes when traveling, etc
So is being in a home better...?
I am majorly wandering, forgi\ve me, I can't do much other than this... Getting up and moving is not easy but I can type... And I need distraction big time... Pain. And day after day after day.
anyhow when you are older and if you are alone you might find you feel differently. my entire goal was to own a home here now... however, I am not so sure now that is the best thing...I am as I said close to all, the PD, the FD, the stores, the services, prime location...No way could I afford to buy in the same area... Not sure I could afford to buy in this little city at all.
I work with a woman a year younger than I. She is divorced. She has worked there for decades. On divorcing she had some money from their home, etc. and she started looking for her own home. She was outbid every time in the city and she finally went 45 minutes out and ended up buying a double wide in a smaller town. She then got a job with a grocery store there, the one that owns this entire area., and she quit her decades long job where we work. they promised her FT and benefits and they were not giving her FT. She came back to our store... I'm not even sure how someone fairly big and corporate can do it but they gave her her job back and all benefits, except she had to start over on vacation time... She now drives 45 minutes back and forth, night and day, winter and summer. We work some heavy hours in the summer. We had a pretty good storm. She came to work one day pretty much in tears... The storm had trees and limbs down at her place and damage and she had no money to take care of, and no vacation time/could not take time off to deal with.
I know I am wandering, I can't do much and I need an outlet and to connect I guess.
However, I kind of do have points somewhere in all this. So she is 45 minutes out, near nothing like I am, and would she have been better off in an apartment a couple of blocks from work? Trees down would not be her problem whatsoever... She works long hours and in the winter she drives in ice and sn*w 45 minutes out... And sometimes has to be back after leaving at 10 p.m. at 5. a.m. the next morning. yeah, that is truly how stupid they schedule. I get it too but I do not lose an hour each way with my drive on top of it.
apologies to all for the long post. I wanted nothing more than to buy a home again but right now I am really sitting back and not so sure... of course right now I can't do anything anyhow, I was finally in perfect position to buy, but now I am pulling in no income
still I really am starting to look at it differently... my mom pays people to mow, to plow, you name it. the home is really too big for her... anytime something breaks down, it costs her a small fortune...she was alone (nephew there now but that will change) and she fell on her own steps. Thank God someone was there when she did...
Rent keeps going up which is scary as HE77 and one never owns but man property taxes do too and what it cost her to maintain that house.... And again I feel safer with neighbors nearby, a manager, etc.., workers in the hallways during weekdays and so on...
GrandmaBear
Deputized Emu Slayer/Horse Thief Hunter
Wow, how come? Do you all have a sh*t fit about it? I don't think I'd like that much...
GrandmaBear
Deputized Emu Slayer/Horse Thief Hunter
Here, I am pretty certain the smoke alarms and carbon monoxide alarms hook in nowhere, they are individual. Nothing in my apt. would alert the FD or PD or anyone... You can however run out into he hallway and find the fire alarm and pull it, much like the kind most of us had at school. Those tie into the FD or PD or whatever it is. and booms the complex wide major ala\rm, and it's awful. I can say no one would sleep through it EVER. At that point only a mgr, the FD, etc. and turn it off... For awhile we were having a ton of false alarms, for a few years actually, man did that get sickening... At times, the janitor guy who lives here would use his key and turn it off. Thank God imo, but then he got in trouble for doing that There were times for instance, other residents saw kids pull it and so they knew it was a false alarm, etc. and would tell him.
So we continued to deal with it and got angrier each time. I quit going outside yet being inside meant listening to that booming thing... The poor cats too! People each time would gather up kids and animals and go outside, often in below zero weather... That's IF you could get your animals. It would never happen here, The minute my cats hear that booming thing they are gone. We had so many false alarms I quit going out but once in awhile would think what if this is a real one...
I mostly would NOT leave but would go out on my balcony and see if I could see smoke from any building and sit out there if not freezing cold where you could still here the alarm blasting, the sirens of the fire trucks and so on... Or I'd go down to my car which I pay for a garage spot for and sit in that or pull it out and sit in it in the parking lot...
Anyhow, to cut my ramblingi short, there is nothing in my apartment that ties to the PD OR FD, things in the hallway do though... I'd have to look but don't think I have the "red" commercial alarm near me but think there is one by the elevator. When such goes off, all interior hallway doors swing shut...Automatically....Then one should be glad such happens but it then is so dark. You need to leave allegedly and all becomes so dark in the hallways and you have to pull each door open, not sure of what is on the other side...I am sure they are to stop fire spread... Then you can't use the elevator and you have to take the stairwells, and again, limited light...
There are people here on our second and third floors who are in wheelchairs... And need to be and yete no elevator usage then. Never was there either for weeks on end when broken down...
We are apparently up to code on some things but I am sure we are not on others but they slide by, fake it, etc... Personally I figured most times I'd stay in and if I had to would jump from my second floor balcony which is one floor technically if one gets at floor level... Figured worst that could happen would be a few broken bones if no FD to help, my patio door faces back... Now that I am dealing with two fractured legs, I am rethinking that one...
Anyhow, I don't know but I know this, our manager has a pretty good pulse on who lives here... And even though I gripe a lot about the place, and such is deserved, I do feel pretty safe here...
The FD and PD is within minutes and 9 times out of 10 you hear the sirens within seconds... With each false alarm even, we end up with at least four big trucks, two cops cars, in no time flat, firefighters pounding on each door, etc... and more on the way in case necessary...
I'm sorry, I'm rambling some. Home too much, pain, too much time on hands... I think of bomb makers also as off in the wood, also cooking meth, and you name it...
At my rural property I am pretty sure that is what I had at the end (not always) next door... Here (at apartment) I feel safer than I was there in the end. And I loved the place. I just know help is nearby and there it was not...
Nuts are nuts and can be nuts anywhere. We do have the systems also here to call for help and it is close... the years of false alarms sent me off, however, there was proof within no time flat one had a TON of help responding and getting right to it...
Tresir
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BBC reporting it too.
Sounds like shooter is still active.
ETA there is a live link at the bottom of the article. 5 injured people are now in hospital two have had ops and one is serious and possibly the perp is one of them, but they don't seem to be too sure.
www.bbc.com
Sounds like shooter is still active.
ETA there is a live link at the bottom of the article. 5 injured people are now in hospital two have had ops and one is serious and possibly the perp is one of them, but they don't seem to be too sure.
Five people shot at education centre in Sweden
The public have been warned to stay away from the scene in Örebro 200km west of Stockholm.
www.bbc.com
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Tresir
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Apparently new evidence says she didn't. Haven't read it all as yet.
Lucy Letby did not murder babies, claim medical experts
Former nurse Letby was convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven others.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Guess Who
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I know we were discussing this at some point when it happened, but I can't find it right now.
Adoptive parents charged with murder
Adoptive parents arrested for murder of 6-year-old Rose Hill girl | Home | kake.com
Adoptive parents charged with murder
Adoptive parents arrested for murder of 6-year-old Rose Hill girl | Home | kake.com
Guess Who
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Pregnant 16 year old presumed to be with 40 year old father of the baby. 
Amber Alert for pregnant teen missing in Beaver Dam - WTMJ
Amber Alert for pregnant teen missing in Beaver Dam - WTMJ
Just made a thread for her:Pregnant 16 year old presumed to be with 40 year old father of the baby.
Amber Alert for pregnant teen missing in Beaver Dam - WTMJ
Amber Alert issued for pregnant teenager suspected to be with 40-year-old man
An Amber Alert has been issued for a missing 16-year-old.
www.wsaz.com
Amber Alert issued for pregnant teenager suspected to be with 40-year-old man
An Amber Alert has been issued for a pregnant teenager who is believed to be with a 40-year-old man.Sophia Franklin, 16, was last seen Sunday night at her home in Beaver Dam, Wisconsin. She is three months pregnant.
Authorities believe she is with 40-year-old Gary F. Day, who is the father of Sophia’s unborn child. He was last seen at Sophia’s home Monday morning.
Day and...
