Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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He is overboard pointing out the crimes were done alone and at times he knew he would have time. Protecting Asa. Odd. And then there is the female who was living with him, more female hairs...
 
NOT first wife or Asa it sounds like. Witness moved out of home in Massapequa Park... Was he with someone after first wife and before Asa....? What? This is all being read and coming fast....
Could it be Mum? She didn't move out and sell the place till '94 was it?

I followed for about 5 minutes then the video hung up on me and wouldnt reload. Had to close and reboot. Thanks so much for your commentary. This is horrendous and surely he must plead guilty? As all this terrible stuff being heard in court would be gruesome to follow. It sounds like a slaughter house.
 
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Tierney in my opinion is covering all the women, maybe the old ex (who probably had nothing to do with), the woman who lived with him for a time in between and Asa the wife. I can only figure they are cooperating even if through an attorney like in Asa's case because there is imo TOO much emphasis put on this. Like some deal that we will do this but you make it CLEAR... Being gone does not mean when home or when you came home or lived there or went down the basement you never noticed anything. And actually now that the HOME is pretty clearly somewhere the women were tortured, and kept makes it even more unlikely that nothing was ever picked up on by the rest of the family.

It also makes the Vergata story even MORE believable. She as running around the outside of the home in February naked and then had her hands pressed up looking out the window before she was probably tortured and murdered WHILE ASA was there. It is what he did, hunted, and tortured and killed.

Pretty much always what I thought. I never believed he didn't take them home and never believed it could be assumed they died on the date of disappearance or known last sighting.

Asa being gone with the kids means nothing. It could well have been a deal. You do your thing but you pay for us to be gone and have a vacation while you indulge your murdering of sex workers ways.

It is looked at as if he waited until they went away and were gone but and not like this well could have been the agreement. I mean do serial killers fight the urge and just wait until the wife decides to take a trip with both kids... Not from anything i've ever heard. When they want to strike and have that serious need and urge, they do. And Karen Vergata if the story is true would believe the way this is being played. Asa was there. MAYBE she was turning off to it at that point, the swinging etc. and realizing CB was doing worse than that and they made a deal. That woman cares less about anyone else, that was obvious from day one with never a hint of sadness for the victims or the families. I think she has contempt for them just as CB does.

Considering the fact they are suing Tierney sure went out of his way to ensure all knew she is NOT part of this.

And isn't it interesting that Ms. paid mega million TV camera following for a show wife did not attend today wherein she has almost every other hearing...

if there's negotiations and deals going on, that's not necessarily bad IF they had no part or no knowledge overall (talking the women before unknown of before he remarried who lived with him and then Asa for decades) but it is another thing IF they had involvement and knowledge, direct knowledge. Homolka and Frazee/Kenny comet to mind and no such deals should EVER have been made.

I think at minimum Asa knew but cared less and said you just go right ahead but here is what you give me in return. Then they get a vacation and he gets the green light. and if Vergata is true, she was here for it. There's sh*t n the ceilings etc. for God's sake they have now found decades later. This was her home and her kids' home. Small. All lived there.

I have taken in way too much today and failed to take some in it came so rapid fire. When we go through cases where there is little info and this one has been pretty tight lipped but when a whole boatload gets released in one short hour or two and we almost never get that, it is quite something. There is enough here to talk about for the next three months easy. Or year. Seriously.

Well I need to not lose my entire day. Have done a few things in between but it was just so mind blowing and kept coming that I kept at it.

One last thing, Joe apologized toward the end of his show for his opinion previously stated that he never thought CB took these women home or did anything to them there. I ALWAYS thought he did, always HAVE. His reasoning in part was how tight and nosy this neighborhood is and he figured no way with the close neighbors and all paying attention to o all would have done so. He admitted to being wrong.

CB had a torture chamber and brought women in I guess(?) right past the noses of the neighbors and took their bodies out... It never made sense to me an SK would pick up an escort or prostitute and kill them in the vehicle or parked spot or dumping area and that would be it. Their fantasies are so beyond that. I always figured he took them home and they did not die the day they disappeared. And I haven't let go of Shannon Gilbert and more involved either as a thought because she was definitely chased and hunted. Not sure he is one of his or his involvement but there's a whole lot more here that doen't add up or a helluva lot of guys like CB on Long Island...
 
NY Post article. Graphic detail in the document so I am not going to copy pasta. This is just the link therefore. It says that CB is just nodding as they read out the torture document in court. WTF!!!!



 
This news channel is reviewing the document.

Warning graphic descriptions.


I've heard most of it coming fast and furious. Joe laid off reading all the graphic parts but OMG. It was all new to him too as he read it, they knew of indictment/s coming but not of all this. I was posting and missed these so I think we were posting simultaneously the last bit, just happened to see this when I was about to take a break from it.

I'm not a bit surprised he tortured and had a torture chamber in his home. Always figured as much. For many reasons.

And these murders? Open up a TON of others as possibilities.

And no one can tell me in all these decades that Asa and kids didn't know at minimum that daddy was a weirdo and had his own things and hobbies...

It has been a lot to take in and as it was coming I couldn't keep up. I have to break from it, I lose my days off all too often but it is huge. The NUMBER of devices and such the took that they have went through and probably still are an THAT planning document OMG I keep saying and there just is no other descriptor other than WOWZA and OMG OMG. How many hard drives like 50 or 70? The man KEPT everything it seems.

His MO DID change which is another thing I always felt not far fetched. I think profiling to a point is counted on too much. Any killer who watches anything knows they do this just for one. Just as they learn about DNA and what they can find. They also age, refine, learn.
 
This is too much almost to comprehend so quickly in one short morning/day. NOT that a bit of it surprises though. But quiet for how long and then fast and furious comes all this stuff just dumped out there. There is a lot here to discuss for some time to come.
 
I am pretty sure his first wife said she left him because of his liking for Craig's list escorts. It is going to probably be necessary to involve her if they wish to go back past 1993 when Costillo and Vergata were murdered.
 
I am pretty sure his first wife said she left him because of his liking for Craig's list escorts. It is going to probably be necessary to involve her if they wish to go back past 1993 when Costillo and Vergata were murdered.
I'd be pretty certain if this is a competent LE and prosecutorial investigation that they've done that UNLIKE Burke's that they have fully talked to her and that's where the info comes from of her talking of his penchant for prostitutes.
 
The number of the devices was staggering. Hard drives, phones, computers, CDs/DVDs, etc. And since we've been told a new burner phones for each kill, yeah, that's staggering! The info was coming so fast and furious I couldn't keep up nor recall now, I just know each item there were a TON of, far more than ANYONE would own if they had kept every single one they'd ever had.

We may come to find out he is one of the most prolific SKs of all time. I hate to say that because that's the goal of many, to be the "best" or top the others, which is sick in and of itself and why is that by the way?

We now know he was killing as young as 29 and they arrested him earlier than they'd prefer because he was showing signs again at THIS age! Where is @Mel70 haven't seen her in a thread in forever, hope all is okay, but SKs are an interest of hers and she often talks of the age most starts and when they end or slow down and this guy was still going or about to the way it seems...

That's a LOT of phones even allowing for all old ones of all family members... And apparently the idiot kept everything!

I was watching a news channel thing awhile ago and a woman in chat said she attended the hearing today and that he was stone faced and emotionless as he was charged with these new ones. Sounds like Chad, the most recent we have been watching with no emotion.

I'm not surprised but still am reeling. I've always felt it was one killer and that most if not all were connected and done by one perp. I think profiling to a point can be not the greatest thing always because not all stick to the same type of victim, the same MO, etc. And he was reading books of a fed agent to try to confuse with his crimes imo.

YET he was stupid as all get out. If there had been any real investigation back when he'd have probably been done for and a lot of victims still alive.

They are VERY fortunate this much evidence still existed all these decades later. It sounds like the idiot kept everything. And YES, an IDIOT to do so. I say that for one reason if he or Asa ever read here, NO, he doesn't strike the awe he wanted to, that's what they want or one of the things OR the FEAR. Or to be known as the "best" of all time or most prolific or hard to catch. But then that too is profiling or assuming...

He definitely changed what he did over time and that's another thing many don't think an SK will do. They may to a point, learn and change over time and refine things but their victims usually stay the same type or sex, their fantasy, etc. But again that is profiling and generalizing. He had a list as to types of victims and the "small" was on it. But so was a T, black, sometihing. I think we are going to find he did the Asian and Peaches.

He had on the list to watch out for and ensure no hairs, DNA, etc. and YET the hairs of three different females in his life were found on these victims AND his own. Confirmed now daughter's was one, that was said but never CLEAR, Asa's more than one and now some female we never knew of he lived with before Asa...

When things have been so silent and not shared, so much came out today it was a major whammy. I started realizing yesterday something huge was coming because for Joe to be saying so, he would not go there without a basis. Then after him came Duty Ron and Police Off the Cuff, every single one being retired NYPD. Never though did I expect we would get this much info and even Joe was reeling when he got the affidavit or whatever it was, I was watching him live.

And I think it is only the TIP of the iceberg.......

This guy is effed up and evil. No way either did anyone living with him for decades not pick up on anything, I don't care if sent on vacation or not. If anyone I was married to or who was my father kept me out of the basement, uhm, that would just have the effect of what is so special and when gone I'd have to check it out... Just for STARTERS. He TORTURED them down there. Something else I always suspected.

Like you, and I know I can assume this here because you say as much, I am waiting on Vergata. We now have a whammy of a 1993 victim AND the fact he took victims into the home. Not a huge surprise to me but now confirmed. Next will be if the Vergata story is true. And IF it is, it places ASA there and with knowledge. Not on vacation at that time, hadn't even had Victoria yet.

Another thing I am waiting for is kills in other states because I have little doubt he probably did kills elsewhere...

I don't know what God will do with the likes of Burke or his cronies who ignored this and never cared to do a thing about all of these murders but then maybe he will never see God... It sure isn't for me to say, we aren't the judge but I'd sure be worried if I were him or anyone else who did nothing about these murders of these sex workers...

I don't KNOW if she is related directly or not but if they ever connect Gilbert, OMG will that be a day. And it will show a lot more than CB always on his own which I believe he was for most of these. The Vergata story though and Shannon's shows a glimpse of more than ONE sick perverted person and things going on on LI... Shannon was getting away, calling for help and was hunted down. Imo.

Perverts run into and know each other, that isn't that hard to believe. Every hub that goes to strip clubs sees the other hubs that do the same there. Every man who cruises a certain street corner like a Burke or a CB may encounter the other cruising for more "play time" as CB put it in his master planning document as well...

The wife bothers me here and always will because she was NOT clueless imo and IF SHE WAS the thing to do would be to look back, see the things she never saw and HELP, not look to profit and support him.

There is like a "hunting" theme here now, I first started hearing it from Joe yesterday and the info that has come out supports it. Like prey. And it reminds me of the story of the one in was it SC where all of a sudden she saw a man in the woods by a tree or some such....

We can't know all of these will pan out as him but it would not surprise me one bit...
 

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