AHMAUD ARBERY: Georgia vs Greg & Travis McMichael & William Bryan for murder *GUILTY*


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Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men who said they thought he was a possible burglar.

Ahmaud Arbery’s mother wants to know where is the justice.

“I just think about how they could allow these two men to kill my son and not be arrested, that’s what I can’t understand,” Wanda Cooper told news partner First Coast News.

A police report states about 1 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 23, Glynn County officers responded to Satilla and Holmes drives where shots were fired. They found Arbery, 25, dead on the scene.

Gregory McMichael, who worked several years for the Brunswick Police Department before serving as an investigator in the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office, told police there were several break-ins in the neighborhood. He said he saw Arbery running down Satilla Drive and asked his son Travis McMichael to help him confront him.

McMichael and his son got a shotgun and handgun because they “didn’t know if Arbery was armed or not.”

The father and son got into their truck and drove down Satilla toward Burford Drive. Gregory McMichael stated when they arrived at Holmes Drive, they saw Arbery running down Burford, according to the report.

Gregory McMichael told police they attempted to cut off Arbery and shouted “stop, stop, we want to talk to you.”

McMichael pulled up next to Arbery, and Travis McMichael got out of the truck with the shotgun. According to statements, that’s when the father said Arbery attacked his son and the two men started fighting over the shotgun. Travis McMichael fired a shot and then a second shot.




After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georgia, according to a district attorney.

Elements of the disturbing video are consistent with a description of the shooting given to police by one of those involved in the incident.

Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was jogging in a neighborhood outside Brunswick on February 23 when a former police officer and his son chased him down, authorities said. According to a Glynn County Police report, Gregory McMichael later told officers that he thought Arbery looked like a person suspected in a series of recent break-ins in the area.

After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael’s son Travis struggled over his son’s shotgun. McMichael said two shots were fired before Arbery fell to the street, the report said.


S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family, said in a statement that the two men involved in the chase “must be taken into custody pending their indictment.”

Gov. Brian Kemp said the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has offered resources to Durden for his investigation. “Georgians deserve answers,” Kemp tweeted.

Kemp also retweeted the GBI’s post that Durden “formally requested the GBI to investigate the death of Ahmaud Arbery.”
 

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Yeah, this is not being covered very well imo. I guess it is to protect prospective jurors. I sure hope the trial is far more public.
 
Wow!



*(this reporter is doing an amazing job detailing specific statements by the perspective jurors, imo)

I agree with him. I keep seeing commenters everywhere using the stand your ground, citizen's arrest and all of those things as defenses. There was a hearing I think last week I did see part of live that had commenters and I said to people who said that, what are you talking about? These men were not in their own yard, they were not defending THEIR property, Arbery was never on their property, etc.

I fail to understand how so many people think these laws apply. They DON'T.
 

Hmm. The way I understand it, the county has a large black population but the neighborhood area where this occurred is predominantly white. It does seem odd there would not be a number of blacks in the juror pool if drawn from the county, more than 21 to 9. Not that just the luck of the draw can't result in that at times I guess...
 
I agree with him. I keep seeing commenters everywhere using the stand your ground, citizen's arrest and all of those things as defenses. There was a hearing I think last week I did see part of live that had commenters and I said to people who said that, what are you talking about? These men were not in their own yard, they were not defending THEIR property, Arbery was never on their property, etc.

I fail to understand how so many people think these laws apply. They DON'T.
Gotta look up SYG laws in GA. In FL, peeps can claim SYG even if they are not at their home, just if they feel threatened. Even with that, don't know how they they felt threatened when they chased him. But, GZ got off for the same thing in FL. Technically, he did not use a SYG defense, but that law was included in the jury instructions. Don't get me started about that :(
 
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Gotta look up SYG laws in GA. In FL, peeps can claim SYG even if they are not at their home, just if they feel threatened. Even with that, don't know how they they felt threatened when they chased him. But, GZ got off for the same thing in FL. Technically, he did not use a SYG defense, but that law was included in the jury instructions. Don't get me started about that :(
in this case though, the perps were dumb enough to film that he was no threat to them, but they were to him, plus they were also dumb enough to give the tape to a just-as-dumb attorney that basically published a heavily edited version of it.
 
Gotta look up SYG laws in GA. In FL, peeps can claim SYG even if they are not at their home, just if they feel threatened. Even with that, don't know how they they felt threatened when they chased him. But, GZ got off for the same thing in FL. Technically, he did not use a SYG defense, but that law was included in the jury instructions. Don't get me started about that :(
Mentioning the GZ case, I guess it has happened... That's a very controversial case too.

Logically in this case, I don't see it applying but a judge can throw a case with instructions and jurors one just never knows what they will decide...
 
(Reuters) - A pivotal defense argument of the three white men on trial in Georgia for killing Ahmaud Arbery, a Black jogger, is that they were trying to make a citizen's arrest under a Civil War-era law that was later repealed amid an uproar over the shooting.

When the fatal encounter occurred on Feb. 23, 2020, it was legal in Georgia for people to arrest someone where they had "reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion" that the person had just committed a felony. Outcry over the killing led to lawmakers revoking the statute in May.

Legal observers say prosecutors will seek to convince the jury that there was no felony over which to arrest Arbery, 25, and that the three men lacked the "reasonable and probable suspicion" required under the old citizen's arrest law. The trial is in the second week of jury selection.

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The way I recall it when this case first started becoming publicly known, there are rules to a citizen's arrest as well and what they can do to stop the individual, etc. and I don't think it fits. They had guns, used vehicles, etc. Not only that but of course, there was no felony committed although I can see them saying or claiming they thought there was.

If I worry about anything in this case, it is more the degree of charges and what actually fits that I think jurors could possibly get hung up on. I think the video evidence speaks pretty well for itself as to what happened, unless of course there is something more we don't know about that will come out, different angles, more evidence, proof the victim stole something (don't think so), etc. I think their goose is cooked but again, there are multiple charges and what actually fits....
 
Yeah, I'd have to refresh my memory but I think there are more than a few things in this "hunt" that do not exactly fit a citizen's arrest or at least at what point do you stop and what all are you allowed to do, they were well beyond what is allowed from what I recall... Also, there were other people who had been in this construction site over time, did they chase any of them... How many other citizen's arrests of anyone else had they ever tried to execute... And did all three always execute such arrests together? Were any white? Yada, yada, yada... Just saying they can try the defense I guess but there is a lot that can be thrown back at it... I mean they are so worried about their neighborhood, I am sure they were watching always and questioning just anyone who did not live there right...? Anyone who drove through, walked through, went into a construction site...

I don't know, smh. It is going to be quite the case I'm sure.
 

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