AHMAUD ARBERY: Georgia vs Greg & Travis McMichael & William Bryan for murder *GUILTY*

Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men...

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Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men who said they thought he was a possible burglar.

Ahmaud Arbery’s mother wants to know where is the justice.

“I just think about how they could allow these two men to kill my son and not be arrested, that’s what I can’t understand,” Wanda Cooper told news partner First Coast News.

A police report states about 1 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 23, Glynn County officers responded to Satilla and Holmes drives where shots were fired. They found Arbery, 25, dead on the scene.

Gregory McMichael, who worked several years for the Brunswick Police Department before serving as an investigator in the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office, told police there were several break-ins in the neighborhood. He said he saw Arbery running down Satilla Drive and asked his son Travis McMichael to help him confront him.

McMichael and his son got a shotgun and handgun because they “didn’t know if Arbery was armed or not.”

The father and son got into their truck and drove down Satilla toward Burford Drive. Gregory McMichael stated when they arrived at Holmes Drive, they saw Arbery running down Burford, according to the report.

Gregory McMichael told police they attempted to cut off Arbery and shouted “stop, stop, we want to talk to you.”

McMichael pulled up next to Arbery, and Travis McMichael got out of the truck with the shotgun. According to statements, that’s when the father said Arbery attacked his son and the two men started fighting over the shotgun. Travis McMichael fired a shot and then a second shot.

After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georg…

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After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georgia, according to a district attorney.

Elements of the disturbing video are consistent with a description of the shooting given to police by one of those involved in the incident.

Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was jogging in a neighborhood outside Brunswick on February 23 when a former police officer and his son chased him down, authorities said. According to a Glynn County Police report, Gregory McMichael later told officers that he thought Arbery looked like a person suspected in a series of recent break-ins in the area.

After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael’s son Travis struggled over his son’s shotgun. McMichael said two shots were fired before Arbery fell to the street, the report said.


S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family, said in a statement that the two men involved in the chase “must be taken into custody pending their indictment.”

Gov. Brian Kemp said the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has offered resources to Durden for his investigation. “Georgians deserve answers,” Kemp tweeted.

Kemp also retweeted the GBI’s post that Durden “formally requested the GBI to investigate the death of Ahmaud Arbery.”

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm surprised Court TV is not covering this live. I checked and nope. There are several doing so though.

I don't know how defense attorneys can do what they do. I will never understand it. Not saying they are not necessary, I just know I couldn't do it unless I truly believed in each person's innocence.

 

[Kimster]

I couldn't watch this trial if I had to. I'm way too convinced that this young man was killed in cold blood for NO reason!

 

[daisy7]

I'm surprised Court TV is not covering this live. I checked and nope. There are several doing so though.

I don't know how defense attorneys can do what they do. I will never understand it. Not saying they are not necessary, I just know I couldn't do it unless I truly believed in each person's innocence.

I'm watching in on Court tv now. Greg McMichael's attorney is giving his opening statement now, he was just trying to protect his son. (rolls eyes)

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm watching in on Court tv now. Greg McMichael's attorney is giving his opening statement now, he was just trying to protect his son. (rolls eyes)

Hmm. I checked YT and their actual website which is where they do most live trials if one doesn't have TV. I did see things about it but not live. I will have to check it again. Unless they are limiting it to TV for Court TV and no online viewing. No big deal though as quite a few other stations are covering it live online.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I couldn't watch this trial if I had to. I'm way too convinced that this young man was killed in cold blood for NO reason!

I haven't actually caught any of it. I found a channel had it on but then had other things to do and didn't listen, I maybe heard two minutes of an opening statement. I probably won't be able to follow it too closely but will just have to see highlights or read comments. If it's anything like the Chauvin trial, it takes a major commitment of time to watch it all. Hard to do.

 

[kdg411]

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I couldn't watch this trial if I had to. I'm way too convinced that this young man was killed in cold blood for NO reason!

No, there was a reason. He's black and in an area they didn't want him in. I think it may have started out as a typical "You don't come 'round here boy! We don't like your kind!" Sort of thing that got out of hand. The defendants thought this was so "normal" or "admirable" for that area they released the video under the belief that it would explain everything, in their favor. Fortunately, these small racist towns are far fewer and face consequences for covering things like this up.

 

[daisy7]

Hmm. I checked YT and their actual website which is where they do most live trials if one doesn't have TV. I did see things about it but not live. I will have to check it again. Unless they are limiting it to TV for Court TV and no online viewing. No big deal though as quite a few other stations are covering it live online.

I was watching on the Court TV app on my smart tv. That was easier than finding out the channel # on my cable

 

[daisy7]

O/T for this thread, but jeez o flip!!

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[GrandmaBear]

No, there was a reason. He's black and in an area they didn't want him in. I think it may have started out as a typical "You don't come 'round here boy! We don't like your kind!" Sort of thing that got out of hand. The defendants thought this was so "normal" or "admirable" for that area they released the video under the belief that it would explain everything, in their favor. Fortunately, these small racist towns are far fewer and face consequences for covering things like this up.

You hit on what I think is the most bothersome part of all of this to me other than of course there is a victim first and foremost. I truly think they think this way, think it is the right way to think, think they have the right to do as they did and probably would do so at any time, etc. and be in the right. I think they also likely believe this is how most people "similar" to them truly think...

 

[Cousin Dupree]

You hit on what I think is the most bothersome part of all of this to me other than of course there is a victim first and foremost. I truly think they think this way, think it is the right way to think, think they have the right to do as they did and probably would do so at any time, etc. and be in the right. I think they also likely believe this is how most people "similar" to them truly think...

The victims of the "Mississippi Burning" case were killed by local law enforcement and nobody in the town would say a word to the FBI about it. So the FBI made a deal with one of the sickest human beings to ever walk the planet, an enforcer for the NY mob. They sent him down to Mississippi. He went to the Klan leader's TV shop and bought a TV. He asked for help loading the TV into his car. He threw the guy into the car and drove off to a cabin in the woods.

Oddly, these super tough behind the hood Klansman become quite chatty when persuaded the right way. They're cowards who never would have approached Aubrey like that unless they had a gun. JMO

 

[GrandmaBear]

The victims of the "Mississippi Burning" case were killed by local law enforcement and nobody in the town would say a word to the FBI about it. So the FBI made a deal with one of the sickest human beings to ever walk the planet, an enforcer for the NY mob. They sent him down to Mississippi. He went to the Klan leader's TV shop and bought a TV. He asked for help loading the TV into his car. He threw the guy into the car and drove off to a cabin in the woods.

Oddly, these super tough behind the hood Klansman become quite chatty when persuaded the right way. They're cowards who never would have approached Aubrey like that unless they had a gun. JMO

No argument here. The Klan have always struck me like cowards. Easy to hide businessmen and other notables behind hoods and terrorize people in their homes and elsewhere isn't it? Guns. A group. Hiding identities. Disgusting. A group often bullying one person and someone "lower" than they where they are "connected" so who can they turn to or go to for help?

It is pathetic and disgusting and those are not even words adequate to describe such and I think this case here and what went on and was on video really struck chords and thoughts of things like you mention with the "Mississippi Burning" as well as other cases, injustices and more.

Pathetic little men with "power" who abuse it... It happens in a lot of walks of life but things like this are one of the lowest of examples. And yes, these men think/thought they are some big TOUGH MEN. Surprised they aren't still beating their chest like they are "heroes"... Even scarier is the protection they got from who? HIgher ups... That this goes on to this day... And in no way do I believe throwing one or two people under the bus in that system there cleaned up the whole corrupt bunch that probably exist here and there throughout... Imo.

It goes on many places and not all race related. POWER over the little people, the "less thans" (in the opinion of those that think they are above), the poor...

Yah, I could go on about it.

The Chauvin case was bad enough but Arbery.... Trucks, guns, a group, a chase, a hunt basically, the south, cover up, no charges by the friend the D.A.... I don't think without internet and a slow cry being raised and people all over slowly becoming aware of the case and injustice, there would be an arrest in this case to this day... Imo.

 

[daisy7]

You hit on what I think is the most bothersome part of all of this to me other than of course there is a victim first and foremost. I truly think they think this way, think it is the right way to think, think they have the right to do as they did and probably would do so at any time, etc. and be in the right. I think they also likely believe this is how most people "similar" to them truly think...

Totally agree!! I live in NW FL commonly referred to LA (lower Al) and also the Redneck Riviera. There are so many posts on FB and nextdoor of ring videos of such random stuff. This person rang my doorbell and then left, this person was parked on my street, should I call the police, etc. The majority of replies are keep your gun handy, your gun is your friend...

There was one post on FB of a ring video of a guy who rang someone's doorbell and left and the lady asked if anyone knew the guy. Usual replies about guns. The guy who was in the vid replied. He said that was me. You had such great landscaping and I rang your bell to see where you had gotten the big rocks in your yard so I could get the same for my yard. And, peeps were telling her to keep her gun handy

I can't imagine being so paranoid thinking that everyone is out to get you!!

 

[Solene]

The cop who was off-duty testified today. Officer Duggan had just finished a moonlighting shift and responded to the call.

He said when he rolled up, the other cop (can't remember his name) who had arrived to the scene first was taking photos.

Officer Duggan said he himself turned Ahmaud over to check his pulse for signs of life. Did I hear that right?

Did anyone else hear that, too? Was Officer Duggan the one who attempted to render aid to Ahmaud, even tho he arrived after the other officer?

 

[Guess Who]

Totally agree!! I live in NW FL commonly referred to LA (lower Al) and also the Redneck Riviera. There are so many posts on FB and nextdoor of ring videos of such random stuff. This person rang my doorbell and then left, this person was parked on my street, should I call the police, etc. The majority of replies are keep your gun handy, your gun is your friend...

There was one post on FB of a ring video of a guy who rang someone's doorbell and left and the lady asked if anyone knew the guy. Usual replies about guns. The guy who was in the vid replied. He said that was me. You had such great landscaping and I rang your bell to see where you had gotten the big rocks in your yard so I could get the same for my yard. And, peeps were telling her to keep her gun handy

I can't imagine being so paranoid thinking that everyone is out to get you!!

Ours is full of the same stuff. The pathetic thing is them encouraging it stating the "Castle Doctrine " we have here, but they obviously have never actually read it. It's obvious by their posts they haven't.

 

[kdg411]

The cop who was off-duty testified today. Officer Duggan had just finished a moonlighting shift and responded to the call.

He said when he rolled up, the other cop (can't remember his name) who had arrived to the scene first was taking photos.

Officer Duggan said he himself turned Ahmaud over to check his pulse for signs of life. Did I hear that right?

Did anyone else hear that, too? Was Officer Duggan the one who attempted to render aid to Ahmaud, even tho he arrived after the other officer?

Officer who responded to Ahmaud Arbery's shooting testifies what he saw when he arrived on the scene | CNN

Prosecutors in the trial of three White men charged with the killing of Black jogger Ahmaud Arbery called their first witness on Friday, a police officer, after opening statements by the state and defense attorneys.

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Glynn County Police Officer William Duggan testified he responded to the scene after finishing an off-duty job because he was nearby. He told the prosecution that he found a Black male on the ground and saw other people nearby, who he later identified as the defendants.

The officer testified that based on what he observed, he felt Arbery was dead and there was nothing else he could do for him.

 

[daisy7]

Ours is full of the same stuff. The pathetic thing is them encouraging it stating the "Castle Doctrine " we have here, but they obviously have never actually read it. It's obvious by their posts they haven't.

This happened in my small town a few years ago. Shooter was not charged. Where I live, it's shoot first and ask questions later.

Gulf Breeze man shot and killed son-in-law in case of mistaken identity

A Gulf Breeze man will not face charges after authorities said he accidentally shot and killed his son-in-law who had flown into the U.S. from Norway as a birthday surprise.

www.pnj.com

 

[kdg411]

Maybe I'm missing something .. does anyone understand how this could be self defense? Chasing a person in your vehicle, while armed does not equate to self dense, right?

 

[GrandmaBear]

Maybe I'm missing something .. does anyone understand how this could be self defense? Chasing a person in your vehicle, while armed does not equate to self dense, right?

It's ridiculous to me but I think they are trying to say Arbery charged him and tried to take the gun so he had to shoot him basically in self defense.

There are so many reasons imo to shoot that argument down if that is what they claim. I'm sure most here have the same reasoning and thoughts as to why it is ridiculous. I see plenty of comments over time too who claim it was self defense and that these men also were within their rights to do this based on this or that law and let's hope there are none like that on this jury...

Sure don't know the legal jargon of criteria for self defense but logically to me, had they not chased and pursued him and brought guns uhm well there would be no need to "defend" yourself...

The way I saw the video, Arbery had nowhere to go, he tried to go one way around the truck and had to duck and go the other toward him and the gun... Imo he was cornered... I think there are some that claim he could have ran away in another direction but I think if I recall, the third man was stopping that with his vehicle behind him sending him forward and there were the McMichaels ahead of him. I think the other McMichaels was in the back of the truck above Arbery and armed too as Arbery approached wasn't he...? Haven't seen the video in some time...

I think if there is a sticking point it will be the end of this chase and those moments and split second decisions and what the unfiltered widest view of all footage shows of the final moments... I think the entire chase, actions, etc. will play in but the deciding factor will hinge on the end... Jmo.

 

[Guess Who]

This happened in my small town a few years ago. Shooter was not charged. Where I live, it's shoot first and ask questions later.

Gulf Breeze man shot and killed son-in-law in case of mistaken identity

A Gulf Breeze man will not face charges after authorities said he accidentally shot and killed his son-in-law who had flown into the U.S. from Norway as a birthday surprise.

www.pnj.com

oh, in many areas it would pass here, but by what those people post, it's obvious they are giving very bad advice to an innocent person that could possibly be charged instead of the thief.