DAVID "DAVE" EDWIN LEWIS: Murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008

David "Dave" Lewis was a 46 year old father of three. A jack of all trades and good man in any camp, Dave was well known and well respected in his mountain community where he lived on the summit of Dead Indian Memorial Road, 13 miles east of Ashland, Jackson County, Oregon for more than 20 years.

David was found dead after a fire at his rural cabin at 12801 Dead Indian Memorial Road. He had been murdered, shot & the cabin set fire.

David's remains were identified by DNA. There was also ANOTHER FIRE near Dave's cabin that same night, at a vacant vacation cabin at 18196 Dead Indian Memorial Road, about 5-6 miles away.

Edited to add media link: Dave Lewis was found murdered in his rural cabin east of Ashland, Oregon in 2008. His murder remains UNSOLVED!

 

[Regina]

Not sure about the gun be stolen, never crossed my mind but certainly possible.

I was just thinking that if the perp was already a criminal, he may have stolen the gun. (It seems to me that when there is a prior criminal hx, burglary is often one of those crimes.)

I want to know more about Troy and his life, past, choices, and more but that's not likely going to happen.

Yeah, and consider that he may not have come into contact with the person who killed him until sometime after he was last shown on video...
It seems unlikely but he actually may not have had any prior contact with the person who killed him.

 

[Tresir]

I was just thinking that if the perp was already a criminal, he may have stolen the gun. (It seems to me that when there is a prior criminal hx, burglary is often one of those crimes.)

Yeah, and consider that he may not have come into contact with the person who killed him until sometime after he was last shown on video...
It seems unlikely but he actually may not have had any prior contact with the person who killed him.

Did Troy have a gun, I wonder. I assume he had a phone as he kept in touch with his mum frequently. Did LE find Troy's phone with his body in his sleeping bag?

We know Dave only had a landline right?

 

[Tresir]

So Dave was shot before the fire right? I wonder if the bullets in his and Troy's case match? LE say the crimes are connected right? Could that be the connection? Was Dave shot in the head too? Sorry, I should know this but am just thinking aloud here.

 

[Red Clover]

So Dave was shot before the fire right? I wonder if the bullets in his and Troy's case match? LE say the crimes are connected right? Could that be the connection? Was Dave shot in the head too? Sorry, I should know this but am just thinking aloud here.

From what I have gathered both men were shot in the head. I have speculated that IF they are connected that the same ammunition could have been used, possibly in two different weapons.

DAVE
David had smoke in his lungs per reports I have seen which indicates to me that he had been shot & was still alive when the fire was started but official police & autopsy reports have never been released. David had a landline 541-482-6017.

I met with Dave's gf MW last Sunday. It was a great chat. Not particularly investigative but we did talk about a few details.

She & David had been in touch with each other that week and she had told him she would call him after work on Wednesday the 3rd.

She said she tried calling and left messages on his answering machine (which she confirmed was physical rather than through the phone company)

She told me that although she had been expecting to talk with him she thought that maybe he was spending time with his youngest son who turned 12 that week or she would have gone up there to his cabin.

She also said she was alerted to the fire by a mutual friend, RN, who called her between 3-4 am asking if Dave was there with her... He was not...

She said she went up to his cabin but his driveway was blocked by emergency vehicles so she went to Shale City Road and came onto the property. She said emergency services personnel, LE/Fire didn't stop her from walking around...

Later she said LE did say something to her. I don't think anyone was aware at the time she was walking around that David was in there...

She told me she went in for 2-3 polygraphs and was interviewed extensively. She said there was one odd thing, LE didn't have a record of her phone calls to him on the evening of the 3rd.

I briefly thought perhaps his phone lines had been cut or his phone service was interrupted but she said she remembered leaving him a message on his voicemail/answering machine.

MW also shared with me that she has the same concerns about the relative that I have suspected.

Over the last 15+ years this person has harassed Dave's gf, in their own words, "...directly, indirectly, and certainly by means unknown...".

Dave had warned her specifically that this relative was crazy and not to have anything to do with them-- which she has not, no matter how hurtful the behavior and accusations over the last 15+ years.

TROY
Troy's mom has said his cell phone was found wrapped up and tucked neatly in his shoe. It was dead by the time LE found him on the afternoon September 4 2008. LE charged his phone and saw all the missed calls from his mom and were able to contact her on the 5th.

I clarified with LW, Troy's mom when Troy arrived to stay on the Greenway as 1-2 days before his mom last spoke to him on September 1st.

He called her around 9:30 pm on the 30th or 31st saying he was camping on the greenway and hoping to catch a ride out overnight.

Before that she spoke with him on his birthday August 26th. It is also my understanding that Troy went to see his (ex)wife EC between the 26th and 1st.

My understanding is that the wife, EC, told Troy that although she had filed for divorce after he had left the valley approximately 10 years earlier, she had not followed through or showed up for court so they were still technically married.

From the publicly available information I have seen, this woman has a child, also EC, now 27 who is named after her mother and does not have the last name Carney.

I did the math and since we don't know the exact timeline that Troy & EC were together it's possible that this child could be TDC's.

It's also possible that EC became involved with someone else and that's why TDC left town. Purely my speculation as LW doesn't know the history or nature of their relationship.

Apparently this marriage was something that Troy didn't disclose to his mom until YEARS later. The woman was significantly older than Troy, about 9 years.

From what I can see on public records, It looks like he was around 30 and she was around 39 when they were together. I haven't checked marriage records.

This woman still lives locally a few miles away from me and as it turns out, my daughter is familiar with her older son UC as he is around the same age and grew up locally.

LW has said that she thinks EC was somehow related to the family of GG. I have not found this connection yet, it could possibly be through the wife of GG.

LW said he had been staying with his friend GG, & that he had left without saying anything after becoming uncomfortable with another houseguest.

I have researched this G family recently and they appear to be BAD news.

Multiple individuals of the same family with arrests & convictions for child sexual abuse, stalking a child, domestic abuse, DUII, etc...

I found a very graphic & disturbing YouTube video by Justice Jes on two of the G family brothers who live in the Medford Oregon area

It could be Troy saw something he was uncomfortable with while a houseguest at GG's.

Troy's mom has speculated recently that perhaps these individuals could have harmed Troy.

Of course we don't know...

More investigation is definitely necessary

 

[Kimster]

If they couldn’t pull the girlfriend’s record of calling him, then that tells me they couldn’t get anybody’s record of calling Dave. And of course, the phone machine was ruined in the fire.

I’m just highlighting the obvious.

 

[Tresir]

If they couldn’t pull the girlfriend’s record of calling him, then that tells me they couldn’t get anybody’s record of calling Dave. And of course, the phone machine was ruined in the fire.

I’m just highlighting the obvious.

The fact she could leave a message must mean it was working at that time. It is possible that the killer/arsonist disconnected the line prior to the shooting and fire but it would have been destroyed in the fire anyway. However, LE should have requested his phone records from prior to the murder. I would think that would be important to check who was in contact with him prior to his death.

 

[Tresir]

From what I have gathered both men were shot in the head. I have speculated that IF they are connected that the same ammunition could have been used, possibly in two different weapons.

DAVE
David had smoke in his lungs per reports I have seen which indicates to me that he had been shot & was still alive when the fire was started but official police & autopsy reports have never been released. David had a landline 541-482-6017.

I met with Dave's gf MW last Sunday. It was a great chat. Not particularly investigative but we did talk about a few details.

She & David had been in touch with each other that week and she had told him she would call him after work on Wednesday the 3rd.

She said she tried calling and left messages on his answering machine (which she confirmed was physical rather than through the phone company)

She told me that although she had been expecting to talk with him she thought that maybe he was spending time with his youngest son who turned 12 that week or she would have gone up there to his cabin.

She also said she was alerted to the fire by a mutual friend, RN, who called her between 3-4 am asking if Dave was there with her... He was not...

She said she went up to his cabin but his driveway was blocked by emergency vehicles so she went to Shale City Road and came onto the property. She said emergency services personnel, LE/Fire didn't stop her from walking around...

Later she said LE did say something to her. I don't think anyone was aware at the time she was walking around that David was in there...

She told me she went in for 2-3 polygraphs and was interviewed extensively. She said there was one odd thing, LE didn't have a record of her phone calls to him on the evening of the 3rd.

I briefly thought perhaps his phone lines had been cut or his phone service was interrupted but she said she remembered leaving him a message on his voicemail/answering machine.

MW also shared with me that she has the same concerns about the relative that I have suspected.

Over the last 15+ years this person has harassed Dave's gf, in their own words, "...directly, indirectly, and certainly by means unknown...".

Dave had warned her specifically that this relative was crazy and not to have anything to do with them-- which she has not, no matter how hurtful the behavior and accusations over the last 15+ years.

TROY
Troy's mom has said his cell phone was found wrapped up and tucked neatly in his shoe. It was dead by the time LE found him on the afternoon September 4 2008. LE charged his phone and saw all the missed calls from his mom and were able to contact her on the 5th.

I clarified with LW, Troy's mom when Troy arrived to stay on the Greenway as 1-2 days before his mom last spoke to him on September 1st.

He called her around 9:30 pm on the 30th or 31st saying he was camping on the greenway and hoping to catch a ride out overnight.

Before that she spoke with him on his birthday August 26th. It is also my understanding that Troy went to see his (ex)wife EC between the 26th and 1st.

My understanding is that the wife, EC, told Troy that although she had filed for divorce after he had left the valley approximately 10 years earlier, she had not followed through or showed up for court so they were still technically married.

From the publicly available information I have seen, this woman has a child, also EC, now 27 who is named after her mother and does not have the last name Carney.

I did the math and since we don't know the exact timeline that Troy & EC were together it's possible that this child could be TDC's.

It's also possible that EC became involved with someone else and that's why TDC left town. Purely my speculation as LW doesn't know the history or nature of their relationship.

Apparently this marriage was something that Troy didn't disclose to his mom until YEARS later. The woman was significantly older than Troy, about 9 years.

From what I can see on public records, It looks like he was around 30 and she was around 39 when they were together. I haven't checked marriage records.

This woman still lives locally a few miles away from me and as it turns out, my daughter is familiar with her older son UC as he is around the same age and grew up locally.

LW has said that she thinks EC was somehow related to the family of GG. I have not found this connection yet, it could possibly be through the wife of GG.

LW said he had been staying with his friend GG, & that he had left without saying anything after becoming uncomfortable with another houseguest.

I have researched this G family recently and they appear to be BAD news.

Multiple individuals of the same family with arrests & convictions for child sexual abuse, stalking a child, domestic abuse, DUII, etc...

I found a very graphic & disturbing YouTube video by Justice Jes on two of the G family brothers who live in the Medford Oregon area

It could be Troy saw something he was uncomfortable with while a houseguest at GG's.

Troy's mom has speculated recently that perhaps these individuals could have harmed Troy.

Of course we don't know...

More investigation is definitely necessary

So was his ex wife the last person to see him alive on the 1st Sept? That's the same night he was on the Pilot Center video. Did LE interview her?

 

[Tresir]

From what I have gathered both men were shot in the head. I have speculated that IF they are connected that the same ammunition could have been used, possibly in two different weapons.

DAVE
David had smoke in his lungs per reports I have seen which indicates to me that he had been shot & was still alive when the fire was started but official police & autopsy reports have never been released. David had a landline 541-482-6017.

I met with Dave's gf MW last Sunday. It was a great chat. Not particularly investigative but we did talk about a few details.

She & David had been in touch with each other that week and she had told him she would call him after work on Wednesday the 3rd.

She said she tried calling and left messages on his answering machine (which she confirmed was physical rather than through the phone company)

She told me that although she had been expecting to talk with him she thought that maybe he was spending time with his youngest son who turned 12 that week or she would have gone up there to his cabin.

She also said she was alerted to the fire by a mutual friend, RN, who called her between 3-4 am asking if Dave was there with her... He was not...

She said she went up to his cabin but his driveway was blocked by emergency vehicles so she went to Shale City Road and came onto the property. She said emergency services personnel, LE/Fire didn't stop her from walking around...

Later she said LE did say something to her. I don't think anyone was aware at the time she was walking around that David was in there...

She told me she went in for 2-3 polygraphs and was interviewed extensively. She said there was one odd thing, LE didn't have a record of her phone calls to him on the evening of the 3rd.

I briefly thought perhaps his phone lines had been cut or his phone service was interrupted but she said she remembered leaving him a message on his voicemail/answering machine.

MW also shared with me that she has the same concerns about the relative that I have suspected.

Over the last 15+ years this person has harassed Dave's gf, in their own words, "...directly, indirectly, and certainly by means unknown...".

Dave had warned her specifically that this relative was crazy and not to have anything to do with them-- which she has not, no matter how hurtful the behavior and accusations over the last 15+ years.

TROY
Troy's mom has said his cell phone was found wrapped up and tucked neatly in his shoe. It was dead by the time LE found him on the afternoon September 4 2008. LE charged his phone and saw all the missed calls from his mom and were able to contact her on the 5th.

I clarified with LW, Troy's mom when Troy arrived to stay on the Greenway as 1-2 days before his mom last spoke to him on September 1st.

He called her around 9:30 pm on the 30th or 31st saying he was camping on the greenway and hoping to catch a ride out overnight.

Before that she spoke with him on his birthday August 26th. It is also my understanding that Troy went to see his (ex)wife EC between the 26th and 1st.

My understanding is that the wife, EC, told Troy that although she had filed for divorce after he had left the valley approximately 10 years earlier, she had not followed through or showed up for court so they were still technically married.

From the publicly available information I have seen, this woman has a child, also EC, now 27 who is named after her mother and does not have the last name Carney.

I did the math and since we don't know the exact timeline that Troy & EC were together it's possible that this child could be TDC's.

It's also possible that EC became involved with someone else and that's why TDC left town. Purely my speculation as LW doesn't know the history or nature of their relationship.

Apparently this marriage was something that Troy didn't disclose to his mom until YEARS later. The woman was significantly older than Troy, about 9 years.

From what I can see on public records, It looks like he was around 30 and she was around 39 when they were together. I haven't checked marriage records.

This woman still lives locally a few miles away from me and as it turns out, my daughter is familiar with her older son UC as he is around the same age and grew up locally.

LW has said that she thinks EC was somehow related to the family of GG. I have not found this connection yet, it could possibly be through the wife of GG.

LW said he had been staying with his friend GG, & that he had left without saying anything after becoming uncomfortable with another houseguest.

I have researched this G family recently and they appear to be BAD news.

Multiple individuals of the same family with arrests & convictions for child sexual abuse, stalking a child, domestic abuse, DUII, etc...

I found a very graphic & disturbing YouTube video by Justice Jes on two of the G family brothers who live in the Medford Oregon area

It could be Troy saw something he was uncomfortable with while a houseguest at GG's.

Troy's mom has speculated recently that perhaps these individuals could have harmed Troy.

Of course we don't know...

More investigation is definitely necessary

Could you link the Justice Jes YouTube? TIA.

I haven't been able to track it down.

 

[Tresir]

So just recapping and speculating. Neither Troy nor Dave had regular employment/income. Dave sold firewood and Troy did odd jobs for truckers. We know Dave had a prior drug conviction and now I am wondering if Troy had a possible connection to drugs, via his acquaintancies/wife. So were they perhaps buying and selling drugs to supplement their incomes? And this was the possible reasons for their murders?

Do we know if they both used drugs? Eg smoking marijuana. If so, who did they buy it from?

Did Troy have a current girlfriend? Or did he still have a relationship with his ex?

Regarding Dave, I don't see the relative as a suspect TBH because I cannot see any motive, means or opportunity. Do they even own a gun, for example. There is also no evidence the relative was even in Oregon at the time, that I can see. I can change my mind if I have missed any evidence, however.

 

[Red Clover]

Could you link the Justice Jes YouTube? TIA.

I haven't been able to track it down.

I would rather not. It's more graphic than I am comfortable with.

I happened across it quite randomly doing other research about the G family.

 

[Red Clover]

So just recapping and speculating. Neither Troy nor Dave had regular employment/income. Dave sold firewood and Troy did odd jobs for truckers. We know Dave had a prior drug conviction and now I am wondering if Troy had a possible connection to drugs, via his acquaintancies/wife. So were they perhaps buying and selling drugs to supplement their incomes? And this was the possible reasons for their murders?

Do we know if they both used drugs? Eg smoking marijuana. If so, who did they buy it from?

Did Troy have a current girlfriend? Or did he still have a relationship with his ex?

Regarding Dave, I don't see the relative as a suspect TBH because I cannot see any motive, means or opportunity. Do they even own a gun, for example. There is also no evidence the relative was even in Oregon at the time, that I can see. I can change my mind if I have missed any evidence, however.

TROY
Troy's mom has been adamant that he didn't do drugs...I am wondering if Troy may have witnessed or become aware of something criminal such as the sexual abuse of a child; as two of GG's siblings have been accused of that behavior in separate instances.

When I hear these things I always assume that the abuser most likely had other victims as well. Maybe that's why Troy was keen on leaving without saying goodbye and then trying to get a ride out of the valley.

Maybe it's why he left the valley the first time ten years previously. I could see it being something he couldn't necessarily explain to his mom.

DAVE
David had a history of and a federal conviction for growing weed in the extreme backcountry of Northern California in the late 1980's. He did not smoke pot himself... He was a cigarette smoker... He drank beer... I don't personally know if he indulged in other recreational drugs...

 

[Red Clover]

If they couldn’t pull the girlfriend’s record of calling him, then that tells me they couldn’t get anybody’s record of calling Dave. And of course, the phone machine was ruined in the fire.

I’m just highlighting the obvious.

I am VERY curious about this. It sounded like they had the phone records if LE was able to say they didn't have a record of her call...

She said she called after work 6-7 ish... she said she expected him to call her back that evening after he got back from wherever he was..

I have no idea how landlines work, how they log & record the calls that come in. Is it in batches at the end of the day? Hourly? In real time as the calls come in/go out?

 

[Tresir]

I am VERY curious about this. It sounded like they had the phone records if LE was able to say they didn't have a record of her call...

She said she called after work 6-7 ish... she said she expected him to call her back that evening after he got back from wherever he was..

I have no idea how landlines work, how they log & record the calls that come in. Is it in batches at the end of the day? Hourly? In real time as the calls come in/go out?

Although I am not in the states, I have a landline and there is no record of incoming calls AFAIK. If they leave a message it is in the system and I can listen, delete, save etc. I have the outgoing calls shown on the bill but not itemized eg 10 local calls, 6 STD calls, 1 international call etc. They would have details of those outgoing calls if I wanted them. But no details of incoming calls. Maybe that is the standard for landlines. If someone else has a US landline, perhaps they could confirm if there is a record of incoming calls. Somehow, I doubt it based on how mine works.

We do have a facility to find out who the last number was that called us and we can access that info by dialling a special code in order to call them back if required, no way of knowing previous callers though.

 

[Tresir]

I think this is a very strange and big coincidence that both Troy and Dave had acquaintances of their ex wives who were child abusers. WTF !!!!

Also, someone who sells drugs may not necessarily use themselves, so is it likely Troy and Dave sold drugs perhaps?

Regarding access to Dave's property via Shale City Road rather than Dead Indian Memorial Road, does that bypass the locked gate entrance? Is that alternate access public knowledge? Could that likely be how the arsonist/murderer accessed the property?

 

[Red Clover]

I think this is a very strange and big coincidence that both Troy and Dave had acquaintances of their ex wives who were child abusers. WTF !!!!

Also, someone who sells drugs may not necessarily use themselves, so is it likely Troy and Dave sold drugs perhaps?

Regarding access to Dave's property via Shale City Road rather than Dead Indian Memorial Road, does that bypass the locked gate entrance? Is that alternate access public knowledge? Could that likely be how the arsonist/murderer accessed the property?

In my personal opinion it would have been very unlikely that either of them were selling drugs but anything is possible.

Shale City Road is a well known road in the area, some of it quite remote, it just happens to abut the property David lived on.

I knew the road was there but I wasn't familiar with it myself and it wasn't the usual way to approach the property.

There is a significant scramble up from Shale City Road through the meadow and then IIRC, a rocky embankment. I know Dave and the boys rode dirt bikes up & down through there.

You would have to be very familiar with the area and that property to know that you could access the cabin from Shale City Road or to know there was a cabin at the summit there, the cabin could not be seen from the road.

The dirt driveway up from the gate is a long rutted decidedly uphill climb. A random individual would not have found their way up that driveway. You had to want to get to the top of that hill and once you were headed up you were committed, there was no turn around until you were at the cabin itself.

 

[Tresir]

In my personal opinion it would have been very unlikely that either of them were selling drugs but anything is possible.

Shale City Road is a well known road in the area, some of it quite remote, it just happens to abut the property David lived on.

I knew the road was there but I wasn't familiar with it myself and it wasn't the usual way to approach the property.

There is a significant scramble up from Shale City Road through the meadow and then IIRC, a rocky embankment. I know Dave and the boys rode dirt bikes up & down through there.

You would have to be very familiar with the area and that property to know that you could access the cabin from Shale City Road or to know there was a cabin at the summit there, the cabin could not be seen from the road.

The dirt driveway up from the gate is a long rutted decidedly uphill climb. A random individual would not have found their way up that driveway. You had to want to get to the top of that hill and once you were headed up you were committed, there was no turn around until you were at the cabin itself.

If people need money they may do it. The truck drivers might have asked Troy if he could get some.

Re the access, that's another indication the perp knew Dave and the property. Eg either the gate on the regular driveway was unlocked or they accessed it from that other road. So that alternative dirt driveway is accessible by vehicle?

I looked on the Medford sex offender register and nobody with initials GG is on there. Did they live outside of Medford?

 

[Red Clover]

If people need money they may do it. The truck drivers might have asked Troy if he could get some.

Re the access, that's another indication the perp knew Dave and the property. Eg either the gate on the regular driveway was unlocked or they accessed it from that other road. So that alternative dirt driveway is accessible by vehicle?

I looked on the Medford sex offender register and nobody with initials GG is on there. Did they live outside of Medford?

The truck drivers may have asked Troy to get what? Weed? Meth? Coke? Heroin? Rufies? Oxy? I don't even know what a truck driver would be looking for.

Troy didn't use drugs or even have a vehicle, where would he be getting & slinging these drugs?
Drug dealing isn't particularly lucrative unless you're selling a whole lot or transporting it up & down I-5.

Small town dealers usually make enough to pay for their own drug use.
Again, it seems unlikely...

DAVE
You can drive from Shale City Road into or near the meadow with a car like vehicle but I am pretty sure you can't drive up to the cabin that way, it's not a driveway just a path. It would definitely be an offroad situation.

Dirt bikes would have no problem, and you could access on foot. I have wondered if all of Dave's dirtbikes were accounted for after the fact.


TROY
GG is NOT the sex offender as far as I have know. It does appear GG was charged with a DUII in January of 2024. The accused sex offenders appear to be the brothers (or cousins) of GG with the initials JG & BG.



There's another male sibling of JG & BG's, an RG, and in a post-Almeda (fires were in September 2020) newspaper article his wife/gf discusses the lack of access to mental healthcare and her fears of this man and LE and other local system failures to protect her from abuse.

Why one domestic violence survivor says the Rogue Valley needs more resources

Laura Dean says she has always known that her partner of 14 years suffered from mental health issues but after they lost their RV in the Almeda fire in the middle of a global pandemic she said things hit a breaking point. "I think that he maybe had a psychotic break because he is Paranoid...

ktvl.com

Dean said she was working with a Domestic Violence Advocate that functions as a liaison between the Sheriff's Office and Community Works, a local nonprofit and the sole service provider for domestic violence victims in the valley. She said the advocate put her in touch with the nonprofit because she did not feel safe staying in the trailer they shared despite the no-contact order.

"They put me in a hotel for a week, well the hotel is just down from the FEMA park where we were staying and he ended up knowing where I was staying," she said noting that she believes he may have seen her car in the parking lot. "When I went to leave to go to the doctor he was outside in the parking lot videotaping my car as I drove away."

She said when she contacted Community works to ask for a relocation she was told the Domestic Violence Shelter was full and there were no other hotels available at the time. When contacted for comment, a Community Works administrator said the organization could not comment on specific cases.

Dean said she was finally able to get relocated thanks to a Social Services program available to fire survivors in the valley but the ordeal was still not over. When trying to file a restraining order against her Garibay she said she was told by the County's Civil Services Division that they could not locate him to serve the order.

"I'm like 'what do you mean you can't locate him he's in the trailer,'" she said noting that she had seen him at the location when she went to pick up food through a fire survivors meal service. "They were like 'oh okay well we are really short-staffed so you will have to call back on Tuesday to get it taken care of."

Lewis said he would look into the claim but said the department does get numerous requests for restraining orders and like many other offices has been periodically understaffed during the pandemic. He said Garibay was served on the 19th and the order went into place on the 20th and noted that while the order was being processed the no contact is still in place.

Dean said ultimately she was left feeling unsafe and overwhelmed with the amount of bureaucracy and hoops that she has had to jump through to get help.

"Every day you are talking to somebody new and trying to explain everything to everybody and it just was too overwhelming," she said in tears.

She said she understands that the pandemic has placed more burden on the system but feels the valley needs to provide more services to those in a situation like hers.

"I just feel like they were the ones that advised me to do all of these things and I did all of these things and then when I would call back it was like 'oh well you can call back,'" she said. "What happens in the meantime if he ends up hurting me again, he knows where I am staying. I have to look over my shoulder to make sure that he isn't there."

The District Attorney's Office confirmed that charges for Assault in the 4th Degree and Harassment were filed against Garibay on the 20th. He has previous charges pending for 4th Degree assault for an incident in August in which he is accused of bear spray against two individuals in Medford.

 

[Kimster]

I would rather not. It's more graphic than I am comfortable with.

I happened across it quite randomly doing other research about the G family.

Sounds like something we wouldn’t want to link to from here.

 

[Kimster]

I am VERY curious about this. It sounded like they had the phone records if LE was able to say they didn't have a record of her call...

She said she called after work 6-7 ish... she said she expected him to call her back that evening after he got back from wherever he was..

I have no idea how landlines work, how they log & record the calls that come in. Is it in batches at the end of the day? Hourly? In real time as the calls come in/go out?

All of that was done behind the scenes at the phone company. As for the answering machine, it was a unit unto its own, and wasn’t tied to the phone whatsoever as far as logging anything. It would log analog on the unit itself, but not to the phone company.

 

[Red Clover]

All of that was done behind the scenes at the phone company. As for the answering machine, it was a unit unto its own, and wasn’t tied to the phone whatsoever as far as logging anything. It would log analog on the unit itself, but not to the phone company.

I see, maybe unanswered calls that the machine caught didn't get logged as incoming calls.

Thanks for working through that with me @Kimster