ELIZABETH COLLINS & LYRIC COOK: Young cousins kidnapped and murdered in Evansdale, IA - July 2012

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On July 13th, 2012 Elizabeth Collins, age 8, and her cousin Lyric Cook, age 10, went for a bike ride in Evansdale. The two never returned and their abandoned bikes were later located on a trail in the southeast corner of Meyers Lake later in that day. A large search was executed in Evansdale and their disappearance was investigated by local, state and federal officials.

On December 5th, 2012 hunters in the Seven Bridges Wildlife Park discovered the bodies of Elizabeth and Lyric. Seven Bridges Wildlife Park is approximately 25 miles from where they disappeared.

To this day, no arrests in their disappearance and murder have been made.


Tips may be submitted by calling the Evansdale Police Department at 319-232-6682, emailing the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigations at OURMISSINGIOWAGIRLS@DPS.STATE.IA.US, by calling Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers at 855-300-8477, using Tipsoft by texting the word Cedar plus the tip to 274637 (Crimes), or by visiting WWW.CVCRIMESTOP.COM and submitting the information online. A person is eligible for the reward regardless of which of these specific methods is used to submit the information.
 
He is hopeful for other families to get answers and doesnt' seem to feel this will give them answers at this time but maybe someday down the line after others get answers. That's heartwarming he thinks of others but sad he doesn't see it for them at this point or feel it will result from this cold case unit for them first or now will be one of the families with a case getting solved.

I can't help but wonder if they have much of anything to even one day test in this case. Even as things get finer tuned and pick up more than they could years before. In Libby and Abby's case there was Libby's video and RA knew he was seen on the trails and so I think he felt he had to go in and say yeah, ya know, I was there that day just to cover himself in case someone did recognize him, etc. or his voice and so on. I don't think any of that exists in this case and maybe the perp feels comfortable no one saw him because no one has put out the same kinds of things they did in the IN case that witnesses saw him, a sketch, a video, etc.

I pray their case gets cracked too and they get justice. There are just so many horrible people running around in this country and on this planet and FREE as well a good many. Scary.
 

12 years since disappearance of Evansdale cousins​

Saturday will mark 12 years since two eastern Iowa cousins vanished in Evansdale, and investigators say they are not giving up on the case.

Investigators have followed up on 2,000 leads in the case, but still no one has been charged.

Anyone with tips or information is asked to contain the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation or call Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers at 855-300-8477.

 
Maybe they need to look into new technology and see what they can do. What have they done with cell dumps, hairs, etc.

In 2012 we are past the years most people didn't have cell phones just for one.

Of course trying to get data today from back then could be an issue but look at LISK. Of course this was rural and not Manhattan, LI, NYC.

No reason to think necessarily they are connected but have they tried to determine where Richard Allen was at this time, on this day and in that year. I sure think they should rule it out if they haven't.

I don't necessarily lean one way or the other on that but two young girls is a bit unusual and both cases consist of such, the states are neighboring states, there are some similarities with the girls, etc. One duo out for a walk on trails, the other out for bike rides with the freedom as well of a day off (summer vacation in this case), and more.

Many people have looked at the similarities for years.

HOWEVER it could also be two completely different perps and again I don't really lean one way or the other but certainly think he needs to be cleared and I certainly think they need to look at Elizabeth's and Lyric's case with some new eyes and see if any new tech, science, etc. can help.
 

Max Original Three-Part Documentary Series TAKEN TOGETHER: WHO KILLED LYRIC AND ELIZABETH? Debuts August 8​

The Max Original three-part documentary series TAKEN TOGETHER: WHO KILLED LYRIC AND ELIZABETH?, from Investigation Discovery, debuts THURSDAY, AUGUST 8 on Max. This shocking and mysterious story is brought to life by first-time filmmaker, and former news photographer on the case, Dylan Sires.

Synopsis: Known as “the case that haunts the Midwest,” the series dives into the haunting 2012 double abduction of two cousins, 10-year-old Lyric Cook-Morrissey and 8-year-old Elizabeth Collins, in Evansdale, Iowa. With over seven years of exclusive access and insider interviews conducted by Sires, including an additional young girl who escaped her kidnapper against all odds, compelling footage of the two victim’s families over a crucial passage of time and new information around the case, TAKEN TOGETHER: WHO KILLED LYRIC AND ELIZABETH? offers a searing and unforgettable lens on this unimaginable crime.

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Too bad he picked HBO to put it on.

I'd love to see it but am not paying to watch a documentary of the slaughter of two young girls.
 
Murdered girl's dad opens up after confronting 'person of interest'

Murdered girl Elizabeth Collins’ dad tells of ’emotional rollercoaster’ after confronting ‘person of interest’ on camera​


Police have never revealed how the girls were killed or any details regarding the discovery of their bodies, not even to family members.

Their reason for doing so is because those are details only the killer would know, and safeguarding that information may be crucial in later flushing out or snaring the culprit.

For Drew Collins, his more than decade-long wait for answers has been nothing short of torturous.

But he is confident a break in the case will soon be forthcoming.

His cause for optimism has been buoyed by the release of a new three-part series about his daughter and niece on Max, Taken Together: Who Killed Lyric and Elizabeth?

Collins participated in the documentary and told The U.S. Sun how he even secretively confronted a person of interest in his daughter's murder.

That confrontation will be shown in the series' final episode, which airs on August 22.

Recounting the experience, Collins said, "That was pretty emotional.

"I tried to stay calm when I was talking to him but I remember afterwards I just kind of had a breakdown. It was all just so heavy.

"The whole time I was talking to him, I kept wondering if he's our guy and there was so much I wanted to ask but I also had to try to keep talking and keep control of myself.

"I think that was probably one of the hardest things about this whole experience."


In the years since Collins saw Elizabeth and Lyric alive, other high-profile murder and abduction cases near Evansdale have led to questions about possible connections to the deaths of the girls.

One of those cases is the Delphi murders, a double homicide of two young girls, Libby German and Abigail Williams, who were killed in the Indiana woods in February 2017.

Parallels between the two killings were drawn, but investigators never established a link between the crime scenes.

One case to have been closely examined by investigators was the abduction of Kathlynn Shepard, 15, and a 12-year-old girl from Dayton, Iowa, in May 2013 – less than a year after Elizabeth and Lyric’s abduction.

The 12-year-old victim was able to escape, but tragically, Kathlynn’s body was found a few weeks after the abduction.

The man responsible for the abductions and murder, Michael Klunder, took his own life the same day the discovery was made.

Klunder is still considered a person of interest in the Evansdale case and is the central focus of the second episode of Taken Together.

In the final episode, Collins confronts an associate of Klunder's who was living less than a football field's distance away from him when Elizabeth and Lyric disappeared.

According to Collins, that individual is a potential suspect in the case.

"When I found out about him being friends with Klunder, I thought this has to be him," he said. "But police couldn’t place Klunder in Evansdale [at the time], so that’s a problem.

"But it's interesting: you have another double abduction, and it's a guy that you were in prison with that you were best friends with in prison, and you're here living like eight doors away.

"This guy's daughter used to ride the school bus with my daughter."

"I'm not 100% on him though," added Collins. "He's not top of my list.

"I have other people that are more interesting to me than that guy."https://www.the-sun.com/news/12258169/murdered-elizabeth-collins-lyric-taken-together-hbo-dad/#
 
I wonder if they have reviewed all those early tips. It could be that something was missed, like with Delphi, for all these years. It could well be worth it if they have not done that already.

Also, where was RA in 2012 do we know? That's 12 and a half years ago. Friday the 13th July 2012.

Plus what about geofencing? They could try that right, if they haven't already.
 
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I wonder if they have reviewed all those early tips. It could be that something was missed, like with Delphi, for all these years. It could well be worth it if they have not done that already.

Also, where was RA in 2012 do we know? That's 12 and a half years ago. Friday the 13th July 2012.

Plus what about geofencing? They could try that right, if they haven't already.
Thank you!! I have been saying ever since the Delphi arrest that the investigators in Iowa and Indiana need to take a second look at Lyric and Elizabeth's case. Indiana for a fresh set of eyes on a case that has SO many similarities to Iowa.
 
Thank you!! I have been saying ever since the Delphi arrest that the investigators in Iowa and Indiana need to take a second look at Lyric and Elizabeth's case. Indiana for a fresh set of eyes on a case that has SO many similarities to Iowa.
You have!
 
I wonder if they have reviewed all those early tips. It could be that something was missed, like with Delphi, for all these years. It could well be worth it if they have not done that already.

Also, where was RA in 2012 do we know? That's 12 and a half years ago. Friday the 13th July 2012.

Plus what about geofencing? They could try that right, if they haven't already.
Two big cases, both Delphi and LISK suffered from misfiled tips and other things so that's a good suggestion to go through EVERYTHING again, Pull all out and refile if one has to, go through every computer directlory, you name it.

Even IF nothing is found that was missed, sometimes going back and as @Sunburst says below, with new eyes to, and later on, something takes on more meaning than it may have had back when, etc. And that's because cases and info they glean changes and adds over the years, well at least hopefully they have SOME, it often seems they don't have much, but a tip from back when may mean more today when connected with something else dn so on.

It's just a good all around idea for many reasons.

I'm about 50/50 on whether these cases could be connected. I do think RA and wife have lived elsewhere and there seems to be a lot we don't know and that alias still bothers me as well.

No idea on the geofencing in this one. I don't think the girls had phones if I recall but the perp I guess may have.

You know, while almost all know of this case here and out there, just like Delphi, it doesn't seem to have the same level of interest imo and I wish it did. The cops don't come out the same do they in the way they did in Delphi at least annually and sometimes give some new speech that would get us all wondering even before an arrest. Of course there was a video and a voice which probably gave more to discuss PLUS someone to try to find that looked like and sounded like that.

They need to do something to give it some kind of new interest, get people talking, worry the perp... I bet RA shook in his boots at times when they said things like you are from Delphi, the area, whatever it was and may be in this room right now. and when they never disclosed what they had and likely always wondering where that bullet was...

This case here though is harder for less info I'd say...? Not that Delphi wsn't hard it took years but boy it never really lost a lot of attn on it.

I know this one is well know and DOES have a lot of interest, it's just quieter though overall imo.

They need to shake things up and a good go over of everything from start to finish would be a great start and then roundtable for some new strategy imo...?

You know if neither killer left DNA, it would up my likelihood I think because I honestly believe both crimes were sexually motivated. ANd two girls in each, unusual enough itself which I've always said is a big reason I don't dismiss it. Neighboring states. Etc.
 
Two big cases, both Delphi and LISK suffered from misfiled tips and other things so that's a good suggestion to go through EVERYTHING again, Pull all out and refile if one has to, go through every computer directlory, you name it.

Even IF nothing is found that was missed, sometimes going back and as @Sunburst says below, with new eyes to, and later on, something takes on more meaning than it may have had back when, etc. And that's because cases and info they glean changes and adds over the years, well at least hopefully they have SOME, it often seems they don't have much, but a tip from back when may mean more today when connected with something else dn so on.

It's just a good all around idea for many reasons.

I'm about 50/50 on whether these cases could be connected. I do think RA and wife have lived elsewhere and there seems to be a lot we don't know and that alias still bothers me as well.

No idea on the geofencing in this one. I don't think the girls had phones if I recall but the perp I guess may have.

You know, while almost all know of this case here and out there, just like Delphi, it doesn't seem to have the same level of interest imo and I wish it did. The cops don't come out the same do they in the way they did in Delphi at least annually and sometimes give some new speech that would get us all wondering even before an arrest. Of course there was a video and a voice which probably gave more to discuss PLUS someone to try to find that looked like and sounded like that.

They need to do something to give it some kind of new interest, get people talking, worry the perp... I bet RA shook in his boots at times when they said things like you are from Delphi, the area, whatever it was and may be in this room right now. and when they never disclosed what they had and likely always wondering where that bullet was...

This case here though is harder for less info I'd say...? Not that Delphi wsn't hard it took years but boy it never really lost a lot of attn on it.

I know this one is well know and DOES have a lot of interest, it's just quieter though overall imo.

They need to shake things up and a good go over of everything from start to finish would be a great start and then roundtable for some new strategy imo...?

You know if neither killer left DNA, it would up my likelihood I think because I honestly believe both crimes were sexually motivated. ANd two girls in each, unusual enough itself which I've always said is a big reason I don't dismiss it. Neighboring states. Etc.
Yes one of them had a phone. It was found with the bikes and purse. I read that yesterday. Regina mentions it in post 58.

Also, i read there were only 2,000 tips. Thats really very few to go thru a second time but compared to Delphi that was just not very many at all.
 
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Yes one of them had a phone. It was found with the bikes and purse. I read that yesterday. Regina mentions it in post 58.

Also, i read there were only 2,000 tips. Thats really very few to go thru a second time but compared to Delphi that was just not very many at all.
I'd have to look back, been awhile. Recall a lot but not that.

Yes, I know they have far less for tips, no video or surveillance footage we know of, nothing that way of cars, people, etc.

I guess if the girls had a phone, there's a good chance the perp did as well... That phone like RA's is probably long gone by now. As far as geofencing, hard to say. Perhaps they did such but are not going to give us or the perp a clue. This dept. imo sure doesn't get out there though and stir anything nor try to. I mean in Delphi at least annually, not that we weren't all frustrated when they had no real new info, they still got out there and stirred the pot a bit and eventually released a bit more, etc. Are they even trying here? I guess if you have zero of anything, it's hard to fake something though. If you say you know he's from the area and he's not, then he just gets more secure instead of worried. If he did not have his phone but LE says they are onto a phone number or some such, same.

But there are a few things they could "act" like they have whether they do or not. A hair, seems to be a big one with new tech these days... A sighting that day... Something...

It's just one of those it is difficult to tell if they have any leads or are trying to do anything new on.

That isn't much for tips in a case so big. Just shows I guess how few were in the area and a number of those tips are probably not anything.

In Allen, in Delphi, the fact he was seen imo spurred him to go in and say as much and that ended up a big part of the case. In this one, there's not a reason for a perp to do that, no hint he was seen at the right time, etc. No video. None of that.

I would THINK and HOPE they would have to have looked at whether this could have been RA as well. These small departments who knows though.

And even if they did, there maybe just not be enough to determine such. If no DNA at either scene, and even if RA lived elsewhere by now records and showing whether he was out of town on that date, etc. would be difficult as well.

I mean I guess there's no reason they likey have to include him as a suspect here but there's also no reason to exclude him, there's just nothing to indicate one way or the other. Imo/guess.
 
Reddit has a possibility. Obviously there is Klunder, who killed himself, but this guy sounds interesting too.

 
Reddit has a possibility. Obviously there is Klunder, who killed himself, but this guy sounds interesting too.


I think I read every comment under this one the other night or close to it. Others were mentioned as well and it was a good reminder that there are one, two, even three, that are probably in the mix although LE probably knows better as to which are not as feasible. The comments did not stay on just Klunder through the comments.

It also refreshed some of that for me, we've probably talked of all of this at some point here but no time to go back and see, but all rings bells but also could have been in an older thread on the old site or somewhere else before I came here. Hard to say as this one has never been as active in the past years.

So some are liking one guy, some another... In Delph ite nded up being none of those looked at over time...

I think this one may be different though and and there's more reason for Klunder BUT we also thought that was possible with RL and KK etc. and others through the years.

I am sure of this though this killer is following news and updates on this and searching for them just as much as RA and LISK were, YTers, websites, you name it. Like MANY perps have, just naming a couple recent ones where we KNOW they did.

Doubtful he hits here but news, bigger things like FB forums probably, YT maybe, etc. That yucky place called JT perhaps. Reddit maybe.
 
Elizabeth's dad. I am subsscribed to the channel but have not watched it much, don't know him well, but he pretty much lets dad talk. WELL worth a watch. VERY. Delphi comes up more than once.

He doesn't think they are related but on hearing how these girls were basically trapped it made me think again they may be BUT I trust he knows better.

Covers so MANY things.

LE doesn't tell him much, he says way more close lipped, but I sense he might know a bit more than he says. Not a lot but maybe a bit.

I know how that spiel goes, been there. And it's both good and bad. We did not have a whodunit though.

I't just a very good watch.

I don't know that it would help anything but I'd like to see this case gets some interest.

He seems to feel some know too that won't talk...
It's not sensational, just good. A father who lost his daughter. He does mention people who are suspects or he feels are or should be but he doesn't center on any one of them... or claim to know.

I'd really like to see it get some attention but not the type that makes it a circus.

He is a bit about the MIL who he says did not follow his rules for his child as far as bike rides, etc. I'm taking that with a grain of salt, I'm sure there are many hard feelings and what ifs.

He does seem to think they know who did it, just need technology to catch up and enough.

It really covered the gamut and it's a VERY good watch.

And again I haven't watched this YTer much but he kind of just asks a question here and there and lets dad talk so it's pretty darned good.

He does lean towards a ruse to get them down to that area of the park and trapped.

There is a LOT more in it.



 
Elizabeth's dad. I am subsscribed to the channel but have not watched it much, don't know him well, but he pretty much lets dad talk. WELL worth a watch. VERY. Delphi comes up more than once.

He doesn't think they are related but on hearing how these girls were basically trapped it made me think again they may be BUT I trust he knows better.

Covers so MANY things.

LE doesn't tell him much, he says way more close lipped, but I sense he might know a bit more than he says. Not a lot but maybe a bit.

I know how that spiel goes, been there. And it's both good and bad. We did not have a whodunit though.

I't just a very good watch.

I don't know that it would help anything but I'd like to see this case gets some interest.

He seems to feel some know too that won't talk...
It's not sensational, just good. A father who lost his daughter. He does mention people who are suspects or he feels are or should be but he doesn't center on any one of them... or claim to know.

I'd really like to see it get some attention but not the type that makes it a circus.

He is a bit about the MIL who he says did not follow his rules for his child as far as bike rides, etc. I'm taking that with a grain of salt, I'm sure there are many hard feelings and what ifs.

He does seem to think they know who did it, just need technology to catch up and enough.

It really covered the gamut and it's a VERY good watch.

And again I haven't watched this YTer much but he kind of just asks a question here and there and lets dad talk so it's pretty darned good.

He does lean towards a ruse to get them down to that area of the park and trapped.

There is a LOT more in it.




I just want to say HI @Whatsnext . Haven't talked with you in forever but think about you a lot, notice your reactions and sure hope you are doing okay!

I'd sure like to see this case go somewhere as I think many would.

Did you watch dad? I found it worthwhile. A good show overall too. He doesn't think the cases are connected (Delphi), I go back and forth. And actually something he said got me thinking again they were where I was not leaning that way. Just the rarity of two, but the main reason is how the person knew the area and cornered them where they would have a hard time escaping.
That is SO Delphi. NOt that if they got away, couldn't have ran through woods, etc. but RA so cornered them with no way back across the bridge, etc. and then had a gun, so forth.

All minor girls, two in each case. Cornered. Some things are really hard to ignore but he may have his reasons for thinking not connected but it actually made me think the opposite again but who knows.

He says he knows little but he probably knows a bit more than us. Not all for certain imo. Have to give him credit for his patience and lauding LE for keep things tight, even from him and no leaks. He did have a bit to say about that with Delphi. It's a very tough thing to do as well as waiting for a court system or justice, etc. over years, I mean if he knows a bit more, to keep it to self and wait for some justice.

Anyhow I wanted to say HI mainly to you!! And hoping you are doing well!
 
I just want to say HI @Whatsnext . Haven't talked with you in forever but think about you a lot, notice your reactions and sure hope you are doing okay!

I'd sure like to see this case go somewhere as I think many would.

Did you watch dad? I found it worthwhile. A good show overall too. He doesn't think the cases are connected (Delphi), I go back and forth. And actually something he said got me thinking again they were where I was not leaning that way. Just the rarity of two, but the main reason is how the person knew the area and cornered them where they would have a hard time escaping.
That is SO Delphi. NOt that if they got away, couldn't have ran through woods, etc. but RA so cornered them with no way back across the bridge, etc. and then had a gun, so forth.

All minor girls, two in each case. Cornered. Some things are really hard to ignore but he may have his reasons for thinking not connected but it actually made me think the opposite again but who knows.

He says he knows little but he probably knows a bit more than us. Not all for certain imo. Have to give him credit for his patience and lauding LE for keep things tight, even from him and no leaks. He did have a bit to say about that with Delphi. It's a very tough thing to do as well as waiting for a court system or justice, etc. over years, I mean if he knows a bit more, to keep it to self and wait for some justice.

Anyhow I wanted to say HI mainly to you!! And hoping you are doing well!
Hi gbear ! Thank you for thinking of me, I am very quiet at the moment because my anxiety is so strong recently. Best wishes to you !
 

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