Epstein, Maxwell et al: exposed in child sex trafficking

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Do we have a Jefferey Epstein thread?

 
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how would a kid know who is attorney was? Why would she know that the old guy was Epstein's attorney?

If she is truly wondering if she pegged the wrong dude, then she did the right thing in dismissing it. Dismissing it also doesn't mean she can't refile at a later date, too.
She knew enough to admit she was wrong about him now. It doesn't elaborate on how she knew she was mistaken either at the time or whether she has recently realised her mistake. I would think it is recent because the lawsuit has been going on for some time now, I believe.
 
I trust nothing when it comes to any of the players in this case.

Money most certainly could have changed hands and look at the types we are talking of. Not far fetched at all and a further agreement could have been that she say she isn't sure. Who knows.

As for Dershowitz, I can't bring a picture of him to mind even though I've seen pics more than once in following things. Prince Andrew is a different story, I can picture him younger and I can picture him now with no effort at all. Of course he would have made more of an impression by far on a young girl and is far better known as is his image. I can also picutre Maxwell and Epstein easily with no effort at all. Dershowitz is far from as well known then and now.

She isn't saying it didn't happen just that she can't be sure it was him I gather.

I don't even entertain the thought that there was no money exchanged or something provided.
 
I trust nothing when it comes to any of the players in this case.

Money most certainly could have changed hands and look at the types we are talking of. Not far fetched at all and a further agreement could have been that she say she isn't sure. Who knows.

As for Dershowitz, I can't bring a picture of him to mind even though I've seen pics more than once in following things. Prince Andrew is a different story, I can picture him younger and I can picture him now with no effort at all. Of course he would have made more of an impression by far on a young girl and is far better known as is his image. I can also picutre Maxwell and Epstein easily with no effort at all. Dershowitz is far from as well known then and now.

She isn't saying it didn't happen just that she can't be sure it was him I gather.

I don't even entertain the thought that there was no money exchanged or something provided.
Wasn't there rumours that he kept his underpants on? (see below tweet)

Latest in the news is this article that is saying husband won't let GM have her trust money back which could jeopardize the appeal. Story is also in several other newspapers too.


Underpants tweet.

 
Wasn't there rumours that he kept his underpants on? (see below tweet)

Latest in the news is this article that is saying husband won't let GM have her trust money back which could jeopardize the appeal. Story is also in several other newspapers too.


Underpants tweet.


Hard to say what is true if it comes out of the mouth of anyone in this bunch.

His claim he kept his underpants on is his claim and nothing more right?

As for GM, isn't her husband wealthy in his own right? It seems to me her lawyers said the two of them conspired to protect her funds and not pay them, didn't they say something on that order?

I guess if her husband is now keeping or used her funds, I'm not sure there is much she can do about it. They were married and she put it in his hands. Not exactly illegal I don't think for him to spend funds handed to him so to speak. What they were doing was likely illegal in attempting to hide it though, etc. Who knows if this is even true although you wouldn't think she would want to affect her own appeal...
 
Hard to say what is true if it comes out of the mouth of anyone in this bunch.

His claim he kept his underpants on is his claim and nothing more right?

As for GM, isn't her husband wealthy in his own right? It seems to me her lawyers said the two of them conspired to protect her funds and not pay them, didn't they say something on that order?

I guess if her husband is now keeping or used her funds, I'm not sure there is much she can do about it. They were married and she put it in his hands. Not exactly illegal I don't think for him to spend funds handed to him so to speak. What they were doing was likely illegal in attempting to hide it though, etc. Who knows if this is even true although you wouldn't think she would want to affect her own appeal...
It depends how the trust was set up. If it is in both their names and they are both beneficiaries, he cannot keep all the money/property himself. That is the whole point of a trust, to benefit all the beneficiaries. I got the impression he was a specialist in that type of thing but if he is not allowing money out of the trust to pay her legal fees, I wonder why that is happening. To me it doesn't sound like it was set up correctly but that is just my opinion.
 
Bit more info in this article from August.


Certainly sounds dodgy.

From the article.

“Mr. Maxwell spent the weeks and days leading up to trial assuring HMF that he was on the verge of obtaining financing on Ms. Maxwell’s properties that would result in more than enough cash to settle the amount owed to HMF and satisfy the retainer,” their complaint states.

That money never came.

Instead, the firm claims, Ghislaine Maxwell’s estranged husband Scott Borgerson formed two limited liability companies and used Maxwell’s money to buy two high-end condos in Boston and other properties in Massachusetts and New Hampshire in an attempt to shelter her assets.

Maxwell’s brother Kevin allegedly told the firm that he could fund Ghislaine’s defense with equity from the properties. He blamed any holdup on Borgerson, who reportedly dumped Maxwell while she was in jail and sold some of the homes while claiming Maxwell had no ownership stake.

The firm says that by Jan. 3, 2022, Maxwell’s balance had grown to more than $956,000. But Kevin Maxwell nonetheless asked HMF to handle posttrial briefings, scrounging up $143,500 as a down payment.

“He did so for the purpose of inducing the firm into continuing to work on post-conviction issues, even though he had no present intention of paying past-due fees or those incurred in the future,” the firm claims. “On Jan. 14, 2022, Mr. Maxwell falsely assured the firm that he would bring it current no later than Feb. 28, 2022. In reality, Mr. Maxwell would never again make a payment to HMF toward Ms. Maxwell’s balance — which still exceeded $850,000.”

In the months after Maxwell’s conviction, the firm says her brother continued to string them along, promising he had wired money that never arrived. HMF now believes her brother worked in concert with Borgerson to protect Ghislaine’s assets from creditors.

HMF wants a judgment for 1 1/2 times the value of the transferred assets, or 1 1/2 times the amount necessary to satisfy her outstanding bills, whichever is less.

HMF attorney Christopher Montville, who represents the firm in the case, did not return phone calls seeking comment Tuesday.
 
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I wonder if the course covers irony?

"Convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell is reportedly teaching a four-week etiquette class at her Tallahassee, Florida prison.

“Taught by Mrs. Maxwell this course teaches the three principles of etiquette — focusing on respect, consideration and honesty,” a course description tacked to the wall at the Federal Correctional Institution reads, the Daily Mail reported on Monday.


The course reportedly runs for four weeks and covers all manner of etiquette issues that Ms Maxwell, a former socialite, is well versed in. Ms Maxwell is serving a 20-year prison sentence for child sex trafficking and other offenses in connection with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein."



I am wondering why she is being called Mrs. Maxwell. She is actually Mrs. Borgerson right?
 
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If she manages to get a penny out of him, I will be very surprised. Now the Queen has died, he will no longer be able to get financial help or support from Mummy and he is renowned as being a bad payer. It will be interesting to see the details when/if they come out.
 
More on Prince Andrew and Virginia Guiffre.

Claiming that that pic proves the tub was too small for sex??? How much room does she require herself? Looks to me that she proved it was possible.
 
Claiming that that pic proves the tub was too small for sex??? How much room does she require herself? Looks to me that she proved it was possible.
That's what lawyers for Guiffre say in the article.

Lawyer Lisa Bloom, who represented several victims of Epstein’s and Maxwell’s sex-trafficking web, said: ‘What a surreal, bizarre photograph.

“It proves nothing.

“Virginia said that she and Andrew were in the bath.

“The photo shows that two full-sized humans can fit in the bath.

“Virginia said Andrew began by playing with her feet in the bath.

“The photo shows that would certainly be possible.

“Virginia said that she and Andrew then moved into the bedroom where the sexual activity occurred.

“Nothing in the photo disproves that.

“Ghislaine and her supporters must be getting desperate.

“Instead of continuing to attack victims, she should be apologising for the pain she has caused to so many."
 
While searching for Prince Andrew articles, I came across these new lawsuits against an ex Barclays boss. It looks serious to me. The article says Jane Doe 1 is suing J.P. Morgan when Jes Staley was Chief Executive of the private bank. The U.S. Virgin Islands are suing too.

 
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Once you start digging.....

(Judge's surname in the recent $26m settlement is Rakoff - you just couldn't make it up.)



 
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Once you start digging.....

(Judge's surname in the recent $26m settlement is Rakoff - you just couldn't make it up.)



Just FYI.. this isn't new but happened in 2020.
 

February 28, 2023
By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Ghislaine Maxwell is expected on Tuesday to ask a U.S. appeals court to throw out her conviction for helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse teenage girls, saying a slew of errors marred the case as prosecutors made her a scapegoat because the financier was dead.

"The government prosecuted Ms. Maxwell as a proxy for Jeffrey Epstein" to satisfy "public outrage" over the case, and worked with his accusers "to develop new allegations out of faded, distorted, and motivated memories," Maxwell lawyer Arthur Aidala said in a statement obtained by Reuters.
 
Here's another article about the appeal.


Here are the details about one of the grounds for the appeal.

"Instead of bringing federal sex-trafficking charges, then-US Attorney Alexander Acosta allowed Epstein to serve a brief and lenient sentence in Palm Beach County jail in Florida on prostitution solicitation charges. The document also said that "the United States" would not bring criminal charges against four specific women as well as "potential co-conspirators."

Nathan previously ruled that the agreement's language bound only the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida, which Acosta led, and not the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, which prosecuted Maxwell.

"Courts cannot infer intent to depart from this ordinary practice from an agreement's use of phrases like 'the government' or 'the United States.' Those are common shorthand," Nathan wrote. "A plea agreement need not painstakingly spell out 'the Office of the United States Attorney for Such- and-Such District' in every instance to make clear that it applies only in the district where signed."

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Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York
The Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility, which investigated Acosta's conduct and admonished him for the agreement, dug up volumes of emails and other communication regarding the agreement. But nowhere in all of that negotiation history, Nathan said, could Maxwell's lawyers find any evidence that Epstein's co-conspirators would have unlimited protection across the country.


In Tuesday's appeal, Maxwell's lawyers argued that Nathan read the agreement too narrowly. Epstein wanted a broad agreement, they said.

Her lawyers pointed to Leslie Groff, one of the people explicitly named as a potential co-conspirator, who worked for Epstein out of his office in New York. US Attorneys in Manhattan decided not to seek charges against Groff, Insider previously reported.

"Epstein's objective in negotiating the NPA was to obtain a global resolution that would, among other things, provide maximum protection for any alleged co-conspirators," Maxwell's lawyers wrote.

In any case, the judge should have held a hearing to figure out the non-prosecution agreement's true meaning before concluding it didn't apply to Maxwell, the lawyers argued."
 
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