Epstein, Maxwell et al: exposed in child sex trafficking

Do we have a Jefferey Epstein thread?

Jeffrey Epstein Confidante Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested on Sex Abuse Charges

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and heiress who became a confidante of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and was later implicated in his alleged sexual crimes, has been arrested by the FBI. She was arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire, around 8:30 a.m. Thursday on charges she conspired...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Tresir]

I read it although none of it surprises me much. Just makes it clear again there is no one these self anointed self important people won't screw, both literally and figuratively imo. Shady, corrupt and sleazy and yet people bowed and/or kowtowed to them.

I fail to see either how that marriage and subsequent "apparent" divorce is hidden and they can't seem to confirm if their divorce is final. Court records are generally open and available to the public and I see no reason their divorce merits any more privacy than anyone else's.

Everything they do is in the dark and shady. Such types sicken and disgust me and yet they and some others think they are special and "somebodies". And the list of those who caved to what they had to "offer" at his island and elsewhere well just shows that and more...

This partly explains the whole thing though. Rich people jetting off to a tax haven for illegal activities where they believe they are untouchable. Some are still getting away with it. Sex and money. I wondered if that marriage was just a sham and it was done specifically to hide the assets. It probably won't be "final" until the money finds it's way back to it's owner. It wasn't hidden from the court because those figures came from her bail hearings, which was in 2020 when she was arrested. It does explain why she didn't get bail though.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This partly explains the whole thing though. Rich people jetting off to a tax haven for illegal activities where they believe they are untouchable. Some are still getting away with it. Sex and money. I wondered if that marriage was just a sham and it was done specifically to hide the assets. It probably won't be "final" until the money finds it's way back to it's owner. It wasn't hidden from the court because those figures came from her bail hearings, which was in 2020 when she was arrested. It does explain why she didn't get bail though.

I know we often don't "get" each other or see eye to eyie but I entirely agree with everything you said here. I'm' sure it wasn't a marriage of love. You're dam*ed right that rich and powerful people with a place to go for illegal activities and these sick people have influence and run things they shouldn't. They should be taken down and in prison and exposed. Too many are still getting away with it and I by no means exempt any of them.

It probably had a lot to do with why she didn't get bail. That and she would be a flight risk as well.

And you know, the charges that came were related to just some but there were younger children in this circle, the "twins" as I recall and conversations that hint at far worse.

It is SICK and our system even with the hiding of assets is always well behind the 8 ball as well.

 

[Tresir]

BFF.

Jailed Ghislaine Maxwell becomes best pals with infamous female killer

Ghislaine Maxwell, 60, has become friends while in jail with a double murderer. Narcy Novack, 65, was convicted of killing her millionaire ex-husband and his mother in 2009.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[GrandmaBear]

BFF.

Jailed Ghislaine Maxwell becomes best pals with infamous female killer

Ghislaine Maxwell, 60, has become friends while in jail with a double murderer. Narcy Novack, 65, was convicted of killing her millionaire ex-husband and his mother in 2009.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is disgusting that they are both in what sounds like a Florida spa or a summer camp with fun classes. Minimum security and outside work? One arranged the brutal beating murders of her spouse and MIL and the other is a sex trafficker of underaged girls! So they put her right where Epstein had all the pull apparently with the Florida judge and people known to him in Florida. There is no earthly reason imo she should be placed in Florida.

I wouldn't be surprised if she disappears one day, on the other hand, why would she, sounds like pretty decent accommodations. Like Epstein she will just be allowed out all day to "work" and come home there just to sleep.

I'm thoroughly disgusted with this. It is as if the federal judge did as expected but elsewhere they took care of Maxwell or someone ensured it on her sentencing and placement...

Jmo.

 

[Tresir]

This is disgusting that they are both in what sounds like a Florida spa or a summer camp with fun classes. Minimum security and outside work? One arranged the brutal beating murders of her spouse and MIL and the other is a sex trafficker of underaged girls! So they put her right where Epstein had all the pull apparently with the Florida judge and people known to him in Florida. There is no earthly reason imo she should be placed in Florida.

I wouldn't be surprised if she disappears one day, on the other hand, why would she, sounds like pretty decent accommodations. Like Epstein she will just be allowed out all day to "work" and come home there just to sleep.

I'm thoroughly disgusted with this. It is as if the federal judge did as expected but elsewhere they took care of Maxwell or someone ensured it on her sentencing and placement...

Jmo.

Your para -

"I wouldn't be surprised if she disappears one day, on the other hand, why would she, sounds like pretty decent accommodations. Like Epstein she will just be allowed out all day to "work" and come home there just to sleep."

Exactly what I thought. Also, the woman she has made friends with is not 65 as stated in the article, as she was born in 1947 according to Wiki so I make that 75. I also would not be surprised if she knew her already - millionaires club. I have this awful thought of them massaging each other.

I also would not be surprised if she buys the Epstein Palm Beach Estate once she gets her millions back from her ex and pays her lawyers, that is. She has a lot of millionaire friends in Florida I am sure.

I had never heard of that double murderer but looked it all up and was disgusted too.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Your para -

"I wouldn't be surprised if she disappears one day, on the other hand, why would she, sounds like pretty decent accommodations. Like Epstein she will just be allowed out all day to "work" and come home there just to sleep."

Exactly what I thought. Also, the woman she has made friends with is not 65 as stated in the article, as she was born in 1947 according to Wiki so I make that 75. I also would not be surprised if she knew her already - millionaires club. I have this awful thought of them massaging each other.

I also would not be surprised if she buys the Epstein Palm Beach Estate once she gets her millions back from her ex and pays her lawyers, that is. She has a lot of millionaire friends in Florida I am sure.

I had never heard of that double murderer but looked it all up and was disgusted too.

I don't know much about the other woman's murders but it did say beating deaths.

Yeah I had the same thought that at least Maxwell would probably be fine with having an intimate relationship. Sorry but clearly she was a sexual part of things with Epstein and the girls.

The other thought that crossed my mind is connections not with just Maxwell but the "friend". NIce pay off by friend or Maxwell to get her there to this spa of a prison and in Florida. And yep, wouldn't doubt they knew each other or had knowledge of each other at minimum. AND common connections more than likely.

They'll be out lunching and shopping together on their "free" days every day...

There is nothing okay about this! A murderer and a trafficker both convicted but not doing "real" time in a "real" prison.

 

[Tresir]

I don't know much about the other woman's murders but it did say beating deaths.

Yeah I had the same thought that at least Maxwell would probably be fine with having an intimate relationship. Sorry but clearly she was a sexual part of things with Epstein and the girls.

The other thought that crossed my mind is connections not with just Maxwell but the "friend". NIce pay off by friend or Maxwell to get her there to this spa of a prison and in Florida. And yep, wouldn't doubt they knew each other or had knowledge of each other at minimum. AND common connections more than likely.

They'll be out lunching and shopping together on their "free" days every day...

There is nothing okay about this! A murderer and a trafficker both convicted but not doing "real" time in a "real" prison.

Clearly this is normal for those with money, as it happened with Epstein in 2009 also. All this "cleaning toilets for 27c a day" is just hogwash.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Clearly this is normal for those with money, as it happened with Epstein in 2009 also. All this "cleaning toilets for 27c a day" is just hogwash.

You've got that right. It's poppycock, hogwash, b.s.

Yes sending her to the very area of Epstein's great "deal" and no time served (he only slept there IF that) is too much to not figure such. I don't doubt there have been more than a few very willing to grease the strings if it came to this which it did (her convicted and sentenced).... So long as she keeps her mouth shut and any evidence as well... I can only wonder how many Florida area politicians on all levels (local on up and big shots or people in positions of authority) have "played" with Epstein and her. No one is stupid enough to buy there is nothing to this location, state, etc...

 

[Tresir]

The two people who tackled the Prince Andrew heckler at the Queen's funeral are possibly being charged with assault. I think they can say they were preventing a crime. Eg the next thing could have been that the heckler launched himself at PA.

Two men charged over alleged assault of Prince Andrew heckler

The action comes after a 22-year-old man, who has already been charged with breach of the peace, shouted at the Duke of York on the Royal Mile on 12 September.

news.sky.com

Here's a link to the original article that says one of the two who detained him was a police officer.

Man arrested after heckling Prince Andrew as he walked behind Queen's coffin in Edinburgh

The arrest came as the Queen's coffin was being taken to St Giles' Cathedral, where it will rest until tomorrow. A woman has also been charged after holding an anti-monarchy sign outside the proclamation service on Sunday.

news.sky.com

"All the Queen's children, including the King, were walking behind her coffin when the man shouted: "Andrew, you're a sick old man."

He was removed from the crowd and detained by police.

King leads sombre procession behind coffin amid huge security operation - follow latest updates

Police Scotland said: "A 22-year-old man was arrested in connection with a breach of the peace on the Royal Mile at around 2.50pm today."

Video published on Twitter shows the man being pulled to the floor by a police officer and what appears to be a member of the public.

He shouts "disgusting" as he is led away by police."

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well Andrew IS a sick old man. A disgrace imo. Not that the heckler needed to do that at the Queen's funeral. However, if the Queen was anyone else, there would be a lot of judgment about her re the son(s) she raised imo.

Although a parent can do their best and still have sons like she had. But in PA's case, pretty extreme. Not a son to be proud of in the end that's for sure. Allegedly of course. I can't always decide if someone is lying or not when a good liar but he isn't a good one and I've never seen more obvious tells than with him. Jmo.

May the Queen RIP.

 

[Tresir]

Ghislaine Maxwell is interviewed in prison for an upcoming article. Several papers have various snippets. Just three linked below.

Ghislaine Maxwell âfeels so badâ for her 'dear friend' Prince Andrew

In a bombshell first interview from prison after being convicted for sex trafficking teenage girls, disgraced former socialite Ghislaine Maxwell has spoken about her “dear friend” Prince Andrew.

www.skynews.com.au

Ghislaine Maxwell opens up about Prince Andrew and Virginia's photograph

Months after being convicted Ghislaine Maxwell has opened up about her relationship with Prince Andrew in an interview from prison.She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for helping the sex offender and globetrotting financier Jeffrey...

www.geo.tv

'My dear Andrew': Ghislaine Maxwell's bombshell Prince Andrew interview

And the damning piece of evidence she's made a major U-turn on.

www.nzherald.co.nz

ETA have found the full interview.

Ghislaine Maxwell speaks about 'dear friend' Prince Andrew from prison

DAPHNE BARAK: Her little black book was once crammed with the names of presidents, powerbrokers, movie stars and royalty. But none was more important than Prince Andrew.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Tresir]

I just found an audio clip of part of the interview.

Victims slam 'unrepentant' sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell after new interview | ITV News

The victims of sex-trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell have spoken of their anger to ITV News after she gave an interview from her US jail cell. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

Ghislaine Maxwell is interviewed in prison for an upcoming article. Several papers have various snippets. Just three linked below.

Ghislaine Maxwell âfeels so badâ for her 'dear friend' Prince Andrew

In a bombshell first interview from prison after being convicted for sex trafficking teenage girls, disgraced former socialite Ghislaine Maxwell has spoken about her “dear friend” Prince Andrew.

www.skynews.com.au

Ghislaine Maxwell opens up about Prince Andrew and Virginia's photograph

Months after being convicted Ghislaine Maxwell has opened up about her relationship with Prince Andrew in an interview from prison.She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for helping the sex offender and globetrotting financier Jeffrey...

www.geo.tv

'My dear Andrew': Ghislaine Maxwell's bombshell Prince Andrew interview

And the damning piece of evidence she's made a major U-turn on.

www.nzherald.co.nz

ETA have found the full interview.

Ghislaine Maxwell speaks about 'dear friend' Prince Andrew from prison

DAPHNE BARAK: Her little black book was once crammed with the names of presidents, powerbrokers, movie stars and royalty. But none was more important than Prince Andrew.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I actually looked at all this when you posted it and was going to remark but then got busy and it has been some time now since. I had a lot to say but now don't recall all. I know one thing was the access that seems to be available where she is concerned to talk from prison which isn't typical for all. I also felt she is sending clear messages. And was disgusted as always with her and her play on things. I had some clear remarks about certain things but don't recall all any longer.

Her dear friend is as disgusting as she is.

And I don't care who she is, this type of availability and freedom shouldn't be going on. I also think I felt clearly as I have for awhile that she has some help and holds things over others and is being treated differently than many would be. She shouldn't even be placed there. And I'm not so sure both she and her hub shouldn't be on trial for other things.

Sorry, wish I recalled my more direct points I wanted to make when I watched/read it all but I don't.

Regardless, my opinion of her just gets cemented more deeply with everything she does or says. She is a pariah imo and should be treated as such and have some shame but does she? None.

 

[Tresir]

Oh my goodness......


Virginia Guiffre drops the Dershowitz defamation case.

She admits she could be wrong about having sex with the lawyer when she was a teen.

Prince Andrew labeled FOOL for settling lawsuit with Virginia Roberts

Prince Andrew settled with Roberts, paying her a reported $12million after she claimed Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with the royal three times.

www.dailymail.co.uk

• Sources close to attorney Alan Dershowitz tell DailyMail.com that Prince Andrew is a 'fool' for settling his sex assault lawsuit with Virginia Roberts this year
• Prince Andrew settled with Roberts, paying her a reported $12million, after she claimed Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with the royal three times
• Virginia dropped a defamation case Tuesday she had brought against Alan Dershowitz in 2019 with no financial payment made to either side
• She sensationally admitted that she 'may have made a mistake' by claiming that she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz when she was a teen
• A lawyer familiar with the case says that now 'all of her allegations should be questioned,' including her claims against Andrew
• 'How can someone be ''mistaken'' about something so serious?' they said
• Sources close to Roberts have fired back, insisting she can't be mistaken about Prince Andrew's identity because he is so famous

 

[Guess Who]

Oh my goodness......


Virginia Guiffre drops the Dershowitz defamation case.

She admits she could be wrong about having sex with the lawyer when she was a teen.

Prince Andrew labeled FOOL for settling lawsuit with Virginia Roberts

Prince Andrew settled with Roberts, paying her a reported $12million after she claimed Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with the royal three times.

www.dailymail.co.uk

• Sources close to attorney Alan Dershowitz tell DailyMail.com that Prince Andrew is a 'fool' for settling his sex assault lawsuit with Virginia Roberts this year
• Prince Andrew settled with Roberts, paying her a reported $12million, after she claimed Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with the royal three times
• Virginia dropped a defamation case Tuesday she had brought against Alan Dershowitz in 2019 with no financial payment made to either side
• She sensationally admitted that she 'may have made a mistake' by claiming that she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz when she was a teen
• A lawyer familiar with the case says that now 'all of her allegations should be questioned,' including her claims against Andrew
• 'How can someone be ''mistaken'' about something so serious?' they said
• Sources close to Roberts have fired back, insisting she can't be mistaken about Prince Andrew's identity because he is so famous

Two different reasons could be

She was told the person was Dershowitz at the time, but not not sure if it was him or not.

or

He paid her off to drop the case

There could be many more reasons

 

[RoundPeg]

Oh my goodness......


Virginia Guiffre drops the Dershowitz defamation case.

She admits she could be wrong about having sex with the lawyer when she was a teen.

Prince Andrew labeled FOOL for settling lawsuit with Virginia Roberts

Prince Andrew settled with Roberts, paying her a reported $12million after she claimed Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with the royal three times.

www.dailymail.co.uk

• Sources close to attorney Alan Dershowitz tell DailyMail.com that Prince Andrew is a 'fool' for settling his sex assault lawsuit with Virginia Roberts this year
• Prince Andrew settled with Roberts, paying her a reported $12million, after she claimed Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with the royal three times
• Virginia dropped a defamation case Tuesday she had brought against Alan Dershowitz in 2019 with no financial payment made to either side
• She sensationally admitted that she 'may have made a mistake' by claiming that she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz when she was a teen
• A lawyer familiar with the case says that now 'all of her allegations should be questioned,' including her claims against Andrew
• 'How can someone be ''mistaken'' about something so serious?' they said
• Sources close to Roberts have fired back, insisting she can't be mistaken about Prince Andrew's identity because he is so famous

Wow

 

[Tresir]

Two different reasons could be

She was told the person was Dershowitz at the time, but not not sure if it was him or not.

or

He paid her off to drop the case

There could be many more reasons

He is easily recognisable though. I don't think he paid her but they must have come to some sort of agreement. If there was any money involved the court would have to know about it wouldn't they, like in the Prince Andrew case?

She admits she could also have been mistaken.

"Giuffre, admitted that she 'may have made a mistake' by accusing the 84-year-old Harvard law professor who worked as an attorney for Epstein.

She had in the past alleged she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz at the late financier's New York mansion and again on an airplane.

But after dismissing her case she said in a statement that she was 'very young at the time.' "

 

[Guess Who]

He is easily recognisable though. I don't think he paid her but they must have come to some sort of agreement. If there was any money involved the court would have to know about it wouldn't they, like in the Prince Andrew case?

She admits she could also have been mistaken.

"Giuffre, admitted that she 'may have made a mistake' by accusing the 84-year-old Harvard law professor who worked as an attorney for Epstein.

She had in the past alleged she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz at the late financier's New York mansion and again on an airplane.

But after dismissing her case she said in a statement that she was 'very young at the time.' "

Many cases are settled out of court and the case will just say "dismissed". No record of anything else noted. Just that the person that filed it, withdraws it. Anybody can dismiss a lawsuit they file if they so desire for any reason. Prince Andrew's lawsuit was settled as a part of the lawsuit, not dismissed.

Old dudes look alike to kids and how would she have necessarily known who he was? She was very young at the time. Kids that age are not known to watch news much, etc to even know.

 

[Tresir]

Many cases are settled out of court and the case will just say "dismissed". No record of anything else noted. Just that the person that filed it, withdraws it. Anybody can dismiss a lawsuit they file if they so desire for any reason. Prince Andrew's lawsuit was settled as a part of the lawsuit, not dismissed.

Old dudes look alike to kids and how would she have necessarily known who he was? She was very young at the time. Kids that age are not known to watch news much, etc to even know.

Well she kept a journal and I think she would have known who he was as he was Epstein's attorney. Anyway, she withdrew the case.

 

[Guess Who]

Well she kept a journal and I think she would have known who he was as he was Epstein's attorney. Anyway, she withdrew the case.

how would a kid know who is attorney was? Why would she know that the old guy was Epstein's attorney?

If she is truly wondering if she pegged the wrong dude, then she did the right thing in dismissing it. Dismissing it also doesn't mean she can't refile at a later date, too.