Epstein, Maxwell et al: exposed in child sex trafficking

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Do we have a Jefferey Epstein thread?

 
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I listened to it and the bits I thought were wrong were the claims that the Prince Andrew photo was not real and that we have "luxury" prisons. We do have open prisons, which she would probably be assigned to. I saw this other video in my stream and watched it too. This person knows the existence of the tapes and believes Maxwell is still alive because she has kept quiet. She also believes that is why she will transfer to a UK prison, and it will happen quietly. She says there is also a possibility there could be a prisoner swap (if we have any Americans in prison here - I don't know). She says it is a done deal. She also says we know who the names are because they are in the logs and black book (as I said too). I don't know about it being a done deal, but it is food for thought, because these people are influential people high up in politics and status.

Link below.




I just realised, why Florida? She had a friend testify for her, if you remember, who is the wife of one of the names. They live in Palm Beach.

ETA as of 2021 we have 65 prisoners (1%) from North America in our system. I think the US has over 500 UK citizens in prison.
 
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I listened to it and the bits I thought were wrong were the claims that the Prince Andrew photo was not real and that we have "luxury" prisons. We do have open prisons, which she would probably be assigned to. I saw this other video in my stream and watched it too. This person knows the existence of the tapes and believes Maxwell is still alive because she has kept quiet. She also believes that is why she will transfer to a UK prison, and it will happen quietly. She says there is also a possibility there could be a prisoner swap (if we have any Americans in prison here - I don't know). She says it is a done deal. She also says we know who the names are because they are in the logs and black book (as I said too). I don't know about it being a done deal, but it is food for thought, because these people are influential people high up in politics and status.

Link below.




I just realised, why Florida? She had a friend testify for her, if you remember, who is the wife of one of the names. They live in Palm Beach.

ETA as of 2021 we have 65 prisoners (1%) from North America in our system. I think the US has over 500 UK citizens in prison.

Yeah nothing in it surprises other than they come right out and say it and aren't the first BUT it still is just so wrong. I don't have any trouble believing it I mean look at how big this is and how big the players are in it, as they say, a whole different level, billionaires, the rich and very powerful of the world (paraphrasing).

The minute you had mentioned days ago the Florida move, I thought no way, something is up with that. The very state so familiar with many to them and who gave Epstein a deal that was outrageous and basically let him go.

I too thought the Andrew photoshopped remark to be old news and long since debated, etc. I don't buy the photoshopping and never have and there is little doubt he was there and regardless, that is old news and an old debate.

What do you mean by "open" prisons, meaning minimum security and more freedom?

I am outraged to begin with she is expecting or making requests as to facilities and/or that her attorneys are. She is convicted and belongs wherever they see fit, not where she prefers. She also belongs in the US imo NOT in the UK, she was tried and convicted HERE. I don't care if her family is there or anything else, she is married to a man HERE, not that that should play into location or easy visiting anyhow.

You know if there is truth to all of this which isn't hard to believe at all considering the level of power and pull and influence involved here, it isn't hard at all to see why many doubt Epstein's suicide. I am no conspiracy theorist but some things are not difficult to believe, money, power and threats have a LOT of pull. There sure were at least a lot of OOPS or failures in his managing suicide in a watched cell...

Her silence throughout speaks volumes imo. I don't see her as some altruistic loyal to all the "johns" type of person but one more apt to save her own skin OR keep what she has that can keep her safe or be used to blackmail, yes, for sure.

I read just a few of the remarks under this video and one said if she ends up in the UK and Julian Assange ends up in the US and she ends up out early, etc., etc., then we know those who run this world. Another says reporters and others need to visit her regularly in prison, etc. in Florida or anywhere because just because a roster shows her doesn't mean she is actually there.

I hate to be a cynic but I agree.

Now as to recordings and proof, well as long as such exist and she has them protected or copies or in the right hands, she is likely safe and she knows it. Such also could provide big $$$ one day for her...

I'll have to give this one you linked a watch.

So who are the "eight" and why not name them in these shows and say "most likely" or "allegedly" or that they "speculate" this is who...
 
Yeah nothing in it surprises other than they come right out and say it and aren't the first BUT it still is just so wrong. I don't have any trouble believing it I mean look at how big this is and how big the players are in it, as they say, a whole different level, billionaires, the rich and very powerful of the world (paraphrasing).

The minute you had mentioned days ago the Florida move, I thought no way, something is up with that. The very state so familiar with many to them and who gave Epstein a deal that was outrageous and basically let him go.

I too thought the Andrew photoshopped remark to be old news and long since debated, etc. I don't buy the photoshopping and never have and there is little doubt he was there and regardless, that is old news and an old debate.

What do you mean by "open" prisons, meaning minimum security and more freedom?

I am outraged to begin with she is expecting or making requests as to facilities and/or that her attorneys are. She is convicted and belongs wherever they see fit, not where she prefers. She also belongs in the US imo NOT in the UK, she was tried and convicted HERE. I don't care if her family is there or anything else, she is married to a man HERE, not that that should play into location or easy visiting anyhow.

You know if there is truth to all of this which isn't hard to believe at all considering the level of power and pull and influence involved here, it isn't hard at all to see why many doubt Epstein's suicide. I am no conspiracy theorist but some things are not difficult to believe, money, power and threats have a LOT of pull. There sure were at least a lot of OOPS or failures in his managing suicide in a watched cell...

Her silence throughout speaks volumes imo. I don't see her as some altruistic loyal to all the "johns" type of person but one more apt to save her own skin OR keep what she has that can keep her safe or be used to blackmail, yes, for sure.

I read just a few of the remarks under this video and one said if she ends up in the UK and Julian Assange ends up in the US and she ends up out early, etc., etc., then we know those who run this world. Another says reporters and others need to visit her regularly in prison, etc. in Florida or anywhere because just because a roster shows her doesn't mean she is actually there.

I hate to be a cynic but I agree.

Now as to recordings and proof, well as long as such exist and she has them protected or copies or in the right hands, she is likely safe and she knows it. Such also could provide big $$$ one day for her...

I'll have to give this one you linked a watch.

So who are the "eight" and why not name them in these shows and say "most likely" or "allegedly" or that they "speculate" this is who...
 
I listened to it and the bits I thought were wrong were the claims that the Prince Andrew photo was not real and that we have "luxury" prisons. We do have open prisons, which she would probably be assigned to. I saw this other video in my stream and watched it too. This person knows the existence of the tapes and believes Maxwell is still alive because she has kept quiet. She also believes that is why she will transfer to a UK prison, and it will happen quietly. She says there is also a possibility there could be a prisoner swap (if we have any Americans in prison here - I don't know). She says it is a done deal. She also says we know who the names are because they are in the logs and black book (as I said too). I don't know about it being a done deal, but it is food for thought, because these people are influential people high up in politics and status.

Link below.




I just realised, why Florida? She had a friend testify for her, if you remember, who is the wife of one of the names. They live in Palm Beach.

ETA as of 2021 we have 65 prisoners (1%) from North America in our system. I think the US has over 500 UK citizens in prison.

Still watching but I don't like her remark of "are they" more responsible than Maxwell, it is like debating whether Maxwell is more responsible than Epstein and now do these men deserve the blame that she does or any I guess is her point... All have their own wrongdoing and the ones guilty of wrongdoing should face the piper themselves which is what he then asks her. She gives some convoluted explanation of sex rings have gone on forever and only because of Jeffrey's proclivity for young girls is the reason for this ring and is what makes it wrong, etc. and I disagree. I get this way of looking at it (which I don't agree with) in that a blind eye is often the case as to adults or oh well, boys will be boys and hookers will be hookers exists when it is adults but US law on trafficking, rings, state lines, etc. does exist.
 
I listened to it and the bits I thought were wrong were the claims that the Prince Andrew photo was not real and that we have "luxury" prisons. We do have open prisons, which she would probably be assigned to. I saw this other video in my stream and watched it too. This person knows the existence of the tapes and believes Maxwell is still alive because she has kept quiet. She also believes that is why she will transfer to a UK prison, and it will happen quietly. She says there is also a possibility there could be a prisoner swap (if we have any Americans in prison here - I don't know). She says it is a done deal. She also says we know who the names are because they are in the logs and black book (as I said too). I don't know about it being a done deal, but it is food for thought, because these people are influential people high up in politics and status.

Link below.




I just realised, why Florida? She had a friend testify for her, if you remember, who is the wife of one of the names. They live in Palm Beach.

ETA as of 2021 we have 65 prisoners (1%) from North America in our system. I think the US has over 500 UK citizens in prison.

His lawyer says he is going to start naming names and he was dead in the morning...
 
His lawyer says he is going to start naming names and he was dead in the morning...
That's the bit I thought was interesting. I don't know the truth of that though.

You ask who are the eight and I have seen them named in articles. I don't want to put them on here but Google would probably help.
 
That's the bit I thought was interesting. I don't know the truth of that though.

You ask who are the eight and I have seen them named in articles. I don't want to put them on here but Google would probably help.
Oh I have an idea of some, not sure of all, my memory fails me. I of course know the president names and know of an Alan...
 
That's the bit I thought was interesting. I don't know the truth of that though.

You ask who are the eight and I have seen them named in articles. I don't want to put them on here but Google would probably help.
Yeah but no matter how we look the fear of him talking probably had some very worried and his death very relieved...
 
Just came across this interview with Brad Edward's from a couple of years ago. Some interesting answers in here.

 
Nothing earth shattering but interesting. Also interesting that the last few minutes are Bill Cosby. Also shouldn't be a free man imo.

 
Nothing earth shattering but interesting. Also interesting that the last few minutes are Bill Cosby. Also shouldn't be a free man imo.


Firstly I wonder why they are only just talking about the one of the four that are supposed to be immune. The comments about the Feds not speaking after the case is interesting, as they think that means the conspiracy case is still open with more prosecutions to come. I am not sure about that. Perhaps they are awaiting the Maxwell appeal result before they proceed? Nothing mentioned about the John Does at all.

The Cosby case is concerning as supposedly he already had a NPA deal and that is why he was released. Similar to Epstein's lenient deal. I am wondering why a woman is still pursuing a 50 year old private case against him though. On the Grinyer case, the person pursuing her release is actually one of the John Does, allegedly, so that is weird too.
 
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I think I should post this here too. This is one Epstein victim suing another.
( Oh Amen v Guiffre ) for $10m.


And, of course, this is still continuing.

 
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Ok I am posting this as I think it is a weird connection. The judge who signed off on the Mar a Lago search warrant used to work for Epstein and represented several of Epstein's employees.
That seems far from kosher to me...
 
This is an article with the detail.

Unbelievable and yet it's not. Totally corrupt. And they get into and/or stay in power. All political and also all self serving. Nothing just about any of it.
 

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