Epstein, Maxwell et al: exposed in child sex trafficking

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Do we have a Jefferey Epstein thread?

www.nbcnewyork.com

Jeffrey Epstein Confidante Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested on Sex Abuse Charges

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and heiress who became a confidante of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and was later implicated in his alleged sexual crimes, has been arrested by the FBI. She was arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire, around 8:30 a.m. Thursday on charges she conspired...
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Tresir said:
Nobody was murdered in this case, AFAIK. Lori and Chad were triple (possibly quadruple) murderers plus attempted murder of a fifth and had the choice of being tried together or separately. I have no idea why Maxwell was not actually named in the NPD but it could be she had already left Epstein at that point and the wording was like it was so as not to name her but it still covered her IMO. But the ones who replaced her were actually named but they never got charged at all. The whole case doesn't make sense to me. But hey, thats the grounds for the appeal so we will see. I understand what has happened because i have been following it.

I disagree we have discussed it much before because the appeal was only submitted in March.

Anyway, those not interested, just scroll and roll because I plan to follow the appeal and report anything valid.
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I apologize, I'm sorry. Didn't want it to come off the way it likely did.

You definitely or someone should post on any appeals as they are new.

I was talking about the NDA having been discussed in depth and so for me, I feel like I am just saying what I already have but I didn't mean to imply you shoudln't post the appeals or what their basis is, etc.

I maybe yes, should just not respond to that part.

I'm not sure I have no interest although I likely said I don't, I mean knowing there is one and what the basis is I would probably read but overall I'm mostly interested in any decisions. Like I said, I just do not like the two of them and maybe had my fill.

Again, sorry was the cause or part of your post about scrolling, etc.
 
kdg411 said:
@Tresir
Here is a link to NY Federal Appeals Court Second Circuit. When a written decision is published you will be able to see it posted. I will still have to log into the court system to print the document but at least you have a better link than relying on MSM for updates. Hope this helps while we wait.

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Thanks Kdg. That's useful.

I also want to point out that Maxwell must pursue all appeals before she can be considered for the programme i posted about re UK jail. So, another reason she may be doing this.
 
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GrandmaBear said:
I apologize, I'm sorry. Didn't want it to come off the way it likely did.

You definitely or someone should post on any appeals as they are new.

I was talking about the NDA having been discussed in depth and so for me, I feel like I am just saying what I already have but I didn't mean to imply you shoudln't post the appeals or what their basis is, etc.

I maybe yes, should just not respond to that part.

I'm not sure I have no interest although I likely said I don't, I mean knowing there is one and what the basis is I would probably read but overall I'm mostly interested in any decisions. Like I said, I just do not like the two of them and maybe had my fill.

Again, sorry was the cause or part of your post about scrolling, etc.
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No problemo.
 
Ok i just read this article about Weinstein's NY appeal. Part of what helped him win his appeal sounds similar to what happened in Maxwell's trial - ie allowing someone to testify who wasn't a victim.

In Maxwell's trial, two of the four victims who testified were actually over the age of consent in the locations the assaults took place. (the witness from the UK and the witness from New Mexico.)

I am not sure I actually know what all the appeal grounds are in the Maxwell case, except that they are hoping for the NPA to apply, but IMO this Molineux witness appeal ground could apply too.


www.nytimes.com

The Harvey Weinstein Appeal Ruling, Annotated

Read the ruling from New York’s top court that overturned the 2020 conviction of Harvey Weinstein on felony sex crime charges in Manhattan, with context and explanation by New York Times journalists.
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The link is paywalled and very detail but i have copied this small section that summarizes it.

"Central to the decision to overturn the conviction was something called “Molineux witnesses,” which refers to witnesses in a trial who are allowed to testify about criminal acts that the defendant has not been charged with committing.


During the Weinstein trial, prosecutors sought to persuade jurors that he had a long history of using his prominence as a Hollywood producer to lure young women to hotel rooms and sexually assault them. They did this by calling other women to the stand who said Mr. Weinstein had assaulted them, including Dawn Dunning, Tarale Wulff and Lauren Young. Mr. Weinstein was not charged with assaulting those women, but Justice James Burke allowed them to appear for the prosecution as Molineux witnesses, also known as “prior bad act” witnesses."

The pdf link below has more detail if you wish to download and read it.

 
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Thanks @kdg411 for the heads up. Also ......

Maxwell's lawyer indicated she will now take the appeal against her conviction to the US Supreme Court.
"We are obviously very disappointed by the court's decision and we vehemently disagree with the outcome," Arthur Aidala said in a statement.
"We are cautiously optimistic that Ghislaine will get the justice she deserves from the Supreme Court of the United States."
 
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Tresir said:
Thanks @kdg411 for the heads up. Also ......

Maxwell's lawyer indicated she will now take the appeal against her conviction to the US Supreme Court.
"We are obviously very disappointed by the court's decision and we vehemently disagree with the outcome," Arthur Aidala said in a statement.
"We are cautiously optimistic that Ghislaine will get the justice she deserves from the Supreme Court of the United States."
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God knows how they'll rule.
 
Tresir said:
Thanks @kdg411 for the heads up. Also ......

Maxwell's lawyer indicated she will now take the appeal against her conviction to the US Supreme Court.
"We are obviously very disappointed by the court's decision and we vehemently disagree with the outcome," Arthur Aidala said in a statement.
"We are cautiously optimistic that Ghislaine will get the justice she deserves from the Supreme Court of the United States."
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I'll see if I can dig up the website for SCOTUS rulings. I know they aren't hearing any new cases this calendar year but I'm not sure if next year's calendar had been made available. If I find it though I'll keep you in the loop.
 
kdg411 said:
I'll see if I can dig up the website for SCOTUS rulings. I know they aren't hearing any new cases this calendar year but I'm not sure if next year's calendar had been made available. If I find it though I'll keep you in the loop.
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Thanks kdg. Well i guess this year is nearly over after all. Our clocks change next week.
 
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