MO JOHN FORSYTH: Missing from Cassville, MO - 21 May 2023 - Age 49 *Found Deceased*

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Authorities search for Missouri doctor who has been missing more than a week​

Authorities in a small Missouri town are searching for an emergency room physician a week-and-a-half after his mysterious disappearance.

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was last heard from May 21. Police said he was reported missing when he failed to show up for work that day at Mercy Hospital in Cassville, a town of 3,100 residents deep in the Missouri Ozarks.

Forsyth’s black Infiniti was found in a remote area near an aquatic park in Cassville. The car was unlocked with his wallet, two phones and a laptop inside.

Several law enforcement agencies, including the Missouri State Highway Patrol, have joined in the search using people, dogs and drones. Forsyth’s family set up a Facebook page seeking information.

Richard Forsyth said his brother had been at the Cassville hospital for about 15 years. He described John Forsyth as a doting father who became engaged to his girlfriend just a couple of days before he disappeared.
 
Him in a lake is nonsense. Not something his brother would have went to, done, etc. Was not a lake type, hiking type, was a math nerd and he even found vacations tedious as they took away from his math and work interest, etc. Doesn't sound to me like the type of man to choose to go to an aquatic center or kill himself in a lake at all. If I take the brother's word for it, it would be flat out ludicrous to think he'd do such or go to such, etc...
 
His brother had no ties or friends or any knowledge of anything in area he was found in Arkansas. Never went there or would have, etc.

His brother was found floating in the lake with an apparent gunshot wound by a kayaker.

He is very complimentary to law enforcement.
 
So I am going to do something I don't often do. I usually don't go in a direction without being read up on and inform without having actually ed on a case and I was starting to on the brother just based on other things without having actually watched or heard the brother personally. Having watched him now, I am going to say he seemed truthful and believable. I DO think there are a few things omitted and that don't make total sense because things are missing... The video at the aquatic park and story aren't fully there. The questions about a power of attorney and his acting on his behalf I felt was skirted a bit. But the car and aquatic park there is video on and the story about the accountant, others were present apparently and knew of such.

The kidnapping is ODD but hearing him, he was not the one to witness him show up at their door, etc. IF this acquaintance he won't name is real and the story real which it would seem to be if shared with LE...

So I'm not suspicious of him any longer, at least for the moment. I do think there are some things missing or a discrepancy or two but not nearly what I had thought...

I had thought he was leading and leaning LE and people in a certain direction but again if there are other witnesses and family members to some of these things, that changes my opinion...
 
I took an hour I barely have and listened to the whole thing of Pascal. I recommend doing so, it flowed along and was interesting.

I am sticking to the theory there was something in this man's life we don't know about or even is behind the former kidnapping (or not). Just something. Financial. Habit. Connections. Being blackmailed or his paying someone money to alleviate a threat. Just something...
 
To get right to it, there appears to me to be far more reasons to suspect suicide than homicide. Of course, I understand that there's info yet to be known but the only circumstance I'm aware of that gives me pause is the distance between his vehicle and the lake, although it isn't a circumstance to which I give much weight, if any.
 
Oh I get ALL of that if you are talking camper, etc. But wouldn't a luxury RV be a bit ostentatious for if I am assuming right from what you have said a poor, rural or meth filled area? At a small hospital?

Someone said on Grizzly's show not long in maybe some druggie figured it was someone (hospital person) with an RV full of drugs or something like that/dealer, etc. and next to a hospital. Not saying I agree with that but it sounds a bit odd.

If someone saw a luxury RV parked in a poor area of Mexico do you think it would be not noticed, left alone? Or like parking a Lexus on a street in a crime filled lower income area in some big city in the US...?

I don't know the area, just saying, going by what you've said and other things but I readily admit I've not had a lot of time.

The brother isn't striking me right but again I haven't seen it all...
what makes one think it was a "luxury RV"? They pretty much all look the same from the outside. Have you not seen new campers, 5th wheels and rv's lately? Even the low end models now are what I would consider luxury and much nicer than most hotel rooms. Also you will find a lot of them parked in a lot of rural hospitals. I see no less than about 3-5 of them parked at the one I pass going to see family. I'm not sure if they are hospital staff or patient familiy's, but they have a lot specifically for them to park. Looking at Google Earth, there is one parked in the outer periphery of the hospital, but not sure if it is his or not and can't tell if it is a camper, 5th wheel or motor home.

By your logic, why was his very nice car still in it's spot days later with the keys and his everything still in it in a park? I would think that would have been much more of a target than something parked in a parking lot of a hospital.

I'm wondering the possibility of him maybe meeting somebody at the park for whatever reason, getting in their car and then whatever happened. Pretty sure money and/or drugs were involved in this matter.
 
Psheesh, basically nothing is confirmed by LE, almost all has come from the brother. Confirming it is him, that there is a gunshot wound, that that caused his death, etc., etc. And about all other info comes from the brother as well. So he had this much knowledge of his brother PLUS LE is sharing that much with him but haven't confirmed it and so far are okay with him sharing all this info...?

I didn't plan on with no time spending the hour or two I have before right back to work on watching a video on this but Grizzly never fails to be a great one to get up to speed on something I don't have time to follow. I am not going to get through it all but just the first half hour has had a LOT of info I don't have time to go read here and there etc.

So has anyone else in the fam or the fiance been out there doing interviews and providing all this info? From what I gather, no? Just the brother.
We were in the area the day or two after he went missing and several people were on the local news, but I wasn't really paying attention at the time to who was being interviewed as we were visiting people at the time, but it was on non stop in the Springfield, MO news last week.
 
So AR is treating it as a homicide investigation but MO as a missing person one... Again per the brother...

Supposed to fly to see his kids that Monday maybe explaining why the passport... Boy at least he got time off of his 80 hour weeks...

You know it is far fetched as well but there is always the possibility the ex may be behind something... We know little. Maybe she was still on a major life policy or he was told to keep it in force or had and maybe $19k was a drop in the bucket to her compared to how she may have had it during the marriage... I don't lean this way but again we just don't know enough... Maybe she didn't want him around the children, who knows... Wow that's a lot of children these days.... I so don't know or haven't followed all, how long were they married? Was that about a child every year for several years when they were younger? How old are the children? NOT that children need to be brought in as to names or anything, just wondering if they are little, older teens, etc or even adults. A 49 year old man could certainly have adult children. And what do they know re their dad, concerns, worries, his life? Do they know of his former kidnapping? Why is it just the brother providing all info?

Was it amicable? How did the brother and the rest of their family feel about it, were they all friends with the ex etc., are they still, friendly, or was it just the opposite? Surely the wife knew about the former kidnapping no?

Why is it negativity and trouble and mystery seems to surround some people in bitcoin? I know little about it nor really understand bitcoin and yet that connotation I connect to it.

Isn't it odd that with a recent final divorce, that would be a normal avenue to look down or person to question, yet little said about that.

It sounds like almost nothing has come from LE to the public but all from the brother. Has LE truly shared that much with him?

He must have been a good samaritan type because if so wealthy why would you work 80 grueling hours a week at a small hospital when you have a wife and several kids at home? I'm working 50 some this week and let me tell you it isn't much of a life and I sure wouldn't have a lot of time for children or family while doing so, not good untired time anyhow, and very little of that.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the victim had something going on in his life unknown to us and hard to say whether the brother knew or not. I think the brother thinks he knows more about his brother's every moment and life than he maybe does. On the other hand, perhaps not and someone just had it in for the man.

The brother is sure front and center. It sounds to me as if LE has not even confirmed the gunshot or cause of death, yet that has become "fact" among some other things...

I tried to watch Grizzly last night and did watch some but was so wiped I didn't get to watch it all by a long shot but she did have a lot of info that I hadn't known previously.
My question is who is the 80 hour weeks coming from? Is this also coming from the brother? Also i see it as likely since I know how dire the situation is down there with lack of nurses and doctors. They are a rich source for the traveling nurses program in that area. Speaking of traveling nurses...they often live in rv's of various types (camper, 5th wheel, motor home) so they can feel like they are home. Most of the contracts are a typical 30 60 or 90 day contract. That's my assumption as to who is staying in the rv's at the one I pass often. Total assumption on my part though.
 
To get right to it, there appears to me to be far more reasons to suspect suicide than homicide. Of course, I understand that there's info yet to be known but the only circumstance I'm aware of that gives me pause is the distance between his vehicle and the lake, although it isn't a circumstance to which I give much weight, if any.
Not sure how he would have gotten there IF the car was his only transportation. Big IF though. We have no clue on that. Beaver Lake is huge and quite a ways away. Seems like there would be far easier places for him IF it was suicide, but a lot of what little we do know sure seems like suicide is a viable possibility. It's just the logistics of it I have a problem with. Seems like if he would have had more transportation, the missing vehicle would have been in the news blast.
 
To get right to it, there appears to me to be far more reasons to suspect suicide than homicide. Of course, I understand that there's info yet to be known but the only circumstance I'm aware of that gives me pause is the distance between his vehicle and the lake, although it isn't a circumstance to which I give much weight, if any.
Throughout my first reading of the posts here with info, I was leaning towards suicide. It was only reaching the end and the finding of his body where it didn't compute so well, along with distance from vehicle to where he was found, a ton of missing info we can figure LE knows but we don't, other info provided by the brother, etc.

I still think there is PLENTY that lends to suicide but it is harder to be sure of either now.

All the little tidbits and things he said and did and recent events had and still can have me leaning towards suicide. BUT there is enough now with the finding of his body put together with a former kidnapping, etc. (alleged) to have me not as solid on it...
 
what makes one think it was a "luxury RV"? They pretty much all look the same from the outside. Have you not seen new campers, 5th wheels and rv's lately? Even the low end models now are what I would consider luxury and much nicer than most hotel rooms. Also you will find a lot of them parked in a lot of rural hospitals. I see no less than about 3-5 of them parked at the one I pass going to see family. I'm not sure if they are hospital staff or patient familiy's, but they have a lot specifically for them to park. Looking at Google Earth, there is one parked in the outer periphery of the hospital, but not sure if it is his or not and can't tell if it is a camper, 5th wheel or motor home.

By your logic, why was his very nice car still in it's spot days later with the keys and his everything still in it in a park? I would think that would have been much more of a target than something parked in a parking lot of a hospital.

I'm wondering the possibility of him maybe meeting somebody at the park for whatever reason, getting in their car and then whatever happened. Pretty sure money and/or drugs were involved in this matter.
Lol. I only used luxury RV once I had heard that far more than once from others and the brother and interviewers. I didn't come up with it myself so that's why I think it, I wouldn't jump to that thought.

I've seen more RVs in the recent years than you maybe have, more so what I'd call campers, a nice new 20', 24' 30 some foot, etc. because one of my daughters actually hauls them and delivers new ones for a living. When she is coming through from one state to another in our area, she will often park her truck and the new camper she is towing at my place or near my mom's place, etc. and spend the night and when I am there or here, I ask to tour them lol.

Yes, they are NICE but they aren't the luxury RVs like it sounds like in this case, but they are just as you are talking campers, that's what they are. Trailers. Something you or I if we wanted to buy new could finance, Very nice. I'd not call them luxury RVs though. I also looked at many a one each new year when we camped. And yes we could have bought one just like people do a new vehicle for how much a month for more years than years ago one could have for payments. Each year of course they get smarter and more up to date with the times and finishes in them. I don't think of them as luxury RVs. They are just new CAMPERS.

Anyhow, enough about that, yes I know the difference and no, I don't think that's what they are talking about or at least the brother was trying to say by calling it luxury.

As to his car, it wasn't parked in some neighborhood in a city, it was parked hidden almost in a refuse area. I don't know the area as you do but have seen the pics.

Brother suspects whoever did that was aware of cameras (parking it) so wouldn't surprise me if any criminal would know too. But then how many are running around there looking for some odd car parked in an odd place no cars ever are...?

Not trying to argue or anything, I'm actually chuckling because again, I didn't call it luxury where I coined the term, i repeated what many others said and I do know very well what new campers these days look like, many models and sizes of them.

I do agree with you he may have been meeting someone and it may well have had to do with drugs, money or someone he made some negotiation with when he was kidnapped (IF all of that can be believed) or to do with the Bitcoin thing...

The other thing is maybe our states and areas and towns and cities differ. A LOT. With all of the deaths in my family and then even after my mom's more recent cancer, and then mine, I have been around way too many hospitals and clinics in many areas and never ever have I seen campers or RVs or spots for them for people camping near the hospital to work there. If I did I am not really sure what I'd think of the place or how much I'd trust it. I've known of nurses that will rent apartments with another nurse who will travel just to work a weekend way out of their own area for bigger dollars by far and medifcal facilities that will pay enough or provide housing to bring on staff.
 
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My question is who is the 80 hour weeks coming from? Is this also coming from the brother? Also i see it as likely since I know how dire the situation is down there with lack of nurses and doctors. They are a rich source for the traveling nurses program in that area. Speaking of traveling nurses...they often live in rv's of various types (camper, 5th wheel, motor home) so they can feel like they are home. Most of the contracts are a typical 30 60 or 90 day contract. That's my assumption as to who is staying in the rv's at the one I pass often. Total assumption on my part though.
Again different than here for sure. Sounds very alien to me.

Don't the contracts pay for housing or does the contract provide the camper, 5th wheel, etc.? Why not provide housing? Not talking exorbitant housing, talking an apartment or two that the nurse or nurses use while taking on such a position or contract?

Honestly if that ever happened here, the hospital would set the campers up off the hospital lot somewhere just because of the appearance it would give. Just get them a spot at a local campsite with hook ups, etc. or in some other lot, but close to the hospital.
 
My question is who is the 80 hour weeks coming from? Is this also coming from the brother? Also i see it as likely since I know how dire the situation is down there with lack of nurses and doctors. They are a rich source for the traveling nurses program in that area. Speaking of traveling nurses...they often live in rv's of various types (camper, 5th wheel, motor home) so they can feel like they are home. Most of the contracts are a typical 30 60 or 90 day contract. That's my assumption as to who is staying in the rv's at the one I pass often. Total assumption on my part though.
The 80 hours a week comes from his brother, at least he said it more than once on the interview on Pascal so I assume that is the source. And he says how highly thought of he was at the hospital and also said later on in it that they (hospital) said they'd probably have to hire at least two people to cover what he did.

I admitted and am the first to admit that I hadn't watched any of the brothers interviews until after reading here and remarking prior to doing so? Have you? I don't mean that in a sarcastic way, I'm wondering what your take on watching him is. Seriously.

I don't wonder so much about him after doing so but I do think there are things not being shared or explained. A few anyhow. Not that the family is told all because I doubt they are.
 
Again different than here for sure. Sounds very alien to me.

Don't the contracts pay for housing or does the contract provide the camper, 5th wheel, etc.? Why not provide housing? Not talking exorbitant housing, talking an apartment or two that the nurse or nurses use while taking on such a position or contract?

Honestly if that ever happened here, the hospital would set the campers up off the hospital lot somewhere just because of the appearance it would give. Just get them a spot at a local campsite with hook ups, etc. or in some other lot, but close to the hospital.
nope. Contracts don't pay for housing and the ones I know that do the traveling nurses have their campers because they like to have their own things in their own home and don't have to pack and unpack every time their contact is up and move on to the next one. They usually stay in an RV campground but some places don't have those very close. All your stuff stays inside, the way you like it. It's already set up the way you like it. I certainly understand how they would rather do that than the packing and unpacking, all by itself. It is your home. You know who's been sleeping in the bed, using the bathroom and when those were last cleaned.
 
Isn't the brother also the one that claimed he was not a dr , but a nurse? He was licensed as a Dr in the state of Missouri and still had a listing of being an emergency room Dr for the hospital in Aurora. That's my point about an the contradictory info coming from the same person and what i am questioning.
 
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Not sure how he would have gotten there IF the car was his only transportation. Big IF though. We have no clue on that. Beaver Lake is huge and quite a ways away. Seems like there would be far easier places for him IF it was suicide, but a lot of what little we do know sure seems like suicide is a viable possibility. It's just the logistics of it I have a problem with. Seems like if he would have had more transportation, the missing vehicle would have been in the news blast.
If you saw what I said about the park and the white SUV and his brother seen and the vehicles seen on video, it isn't clear, doesn't make sense or details are missing. It seems like he said John was seen out of his car after the SUV left and yet he is then asked if he got into the white SUV willingly, etc. and more... Stuff is missing. A LOT. I mean if one wants to get far fetched he could have had someone bring him the SUV and then that person left with another who followed and John drove himself off to commit suicide. OR he had someone meet him in the white SUV and he gave them some story of car trouble, needing to get away from it all and he had them drop him somewhere like at that lake or near there... BUT again far fetched, why wouldn't that person have come forward saying yeah, I''m his friend and I gave him a ride...

Well, the friend who cut his zip ties off on the alleged kidnapping never reported it or said a word so maybe he gave someone a story and asked them not to talk, but wouldn't they talk now that he is dead?

I don't think any of that is likely, just saying whoever met him might have just given him a ride and he gave them a story and they bought it and now that he's dead, they don't know what to say.... Or whether they dare come forward or will be believed...

None of this do I think, I am purely speculating on how suicide could be the case with the distance... Could he so want family and others to believe it was murder to save family the knowledge he'd do such a thing? And involve people who had no idea that's what they were helping with?
nope. Contracts don't pay for housing and the ones I know that do the traveling nurses have their campers because they like to have their own things in their own home and don't have to pack and unpack every time their contact is up and move on to the next one. They usually stay in an RV campground but some places don't have those very close. All your stuff stays inside, the way you like it. It's already set up the way you like it. I certainly understand how they would rather do that than the packing and unpacking, all by itself. It is your home. You know who's been sleeping in the bed, using the bathroom and when those were last cleaned.
The nurses I have known to travel were to another job in a bigger city for higher pay just to do a couple of shifts because the money was so much higher. Never known any that travel to small rural areas for what is generally LOWER pay, they worked in such and took a job instead that it actually paid enough for them to take an apartment and travel there and work less but be away fro home for jsut two to three days a week for a huge paycheck.

Even so, with what you are talking about, I could see an RV park but of course only or mostly in warmer months right? I mean propane alone would be exorbitant in the winter. And are you saying they move place to place and pull the RV etc.? Since most of the nursing profession (not all) of course) are still female, it leaves me wondering how many of them pull around a fair sized RV or drive big motorhomes. He wasn't traveling anyhow, he was staying put or so it sounds.

It really doesn't matter, it is a known fact he had an RV there and it has been referred to many a time I have heard as a luxury one. That isn't hard to believe since it is also said he was wealthy.
 
Isn't the brother also the one that claimed he was not a dr , but a nurse? He was licensed as a Dr in the state of Missouri and still had a listing of being an emergency room Dr for the hospital in Aurora. That's my point about an the contradictory info coming from the same person and what i am questioning.
No, I don't think so. Brother always says I think that he is a doctor. I heard nurse from some viewer or someone on Grizzly's channel and she didn't correct them so it made me wonder which was true. It is likely doctor.
 
If you saw what I said about the park and the white SUV and his brother seen and the vehicles seen on video, it isn't clear, doesn't make sense or details are missing. It seems like he said John was seen out of his car after the SUV left and yet he is then asked if he got into the white SUV willingly, etc. and more... Stuff is missing. A LOT. I mean if one wants to get far fetched he could have had someone bring him the SUV and then that person left with another who followed and John drove himself off to commit suicide. OR he had someone meet him in the white SUV and he gave them some story of car trouble, needing to get away from it all and he had them drop him somewhere like at that lake or near there... BUT again far fetched, why wouldn't that person have come forward saying yeah, I''m his friend and I gave him a ride...

Well, the friend who cut his zip ties off on the alleged kidnapping never reported it or said a word so maybe he gave someone a story and asked them not to talk, but wouldn't they talk now that he is dead?

I don't think any of that is likely, just saying whoever met him might have just given him a ride and he gave them a story and they bought it and now that he's dead, they don't know what to say.... Or whether they dare come forward or will be believed...

None of this do I think, I am purely speculating on how suicide could be the case with the distance... Could he so want family and others to believe it was murder to save family the knowledge he'd do such a thing? And involve people who had no idea that's what they were helping with?

The nurses I have known to travel were to another job in a bigger city for higher pay just to do a couple of shifts because the money was so much higher. Never known any that travel to small rural areas for what is generally LOWER pay, they worked in such and took a job instead that it actually paid enough for them to take an apartment and travel there and work less but be away fro home for jsut two to three days a week for a huge paycheck.

Even so, with what you are talking about, I could see an RV park but of course only or mostly in warmer months right? I mean propane alone would be exorbitant in the winter. And are you saying they move place to place and pull the RV etc.? Since most of the nursing profession (not all) of course) are still female, it leaves me wondering how many of them pull around a fair sized RV or drive big motorhomes. He wasn't traveling anyhow, he was staying put or so it sounds.

It really doesn't matter, it is a known fact he had an RV there and it has been referred to many a time I have heard as a luxury one. That isn't hard to believe since it is also said he was wealthy.
The travel nurses I know nearly always get their contacts from rural hospitals. The rural ones here dont have enough registered nurses that live near. Yes, they pull their trailers wherever they work. I think i know as many male nurses as female and of the 3 sets if travel nurses I know, 2 are female and1 male. But not sure what that has to do with pulling a camper though. I pull ours just fine and it's a bit over 30 ft and no problem. Most rural areas only have propane as a source of heat, too so not that different. They get to see so much of our country that way and get paid nicely to travel.

All I'm saying it's that it's not a rare thing for people in rural areas to stay in a portable form of housing here while working. Good housing is not readily available in many of those areas that are very close. Not many want to drive hours in a day, especially after pulling a long shift. I also wouldn't want the person I rely upon for my health to be that tired above the tired just from a long, stressful day. I'm all for it if it makes life better for everybody.

Construction workers, boilermakers, etc all do it too if they work for a company that accepts work out if their areas. It's for from a new thing.
 

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