JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
www.eastidahonews.com www.eastidahonews.com

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Are Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell serial killers? Has their doomsday cult finally ended? Keep up-to-date on this bizarre case!

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Found it:

Tylee Ryan, 17, has not been seen since she visited the state park on Sept. 8, 2019 with her 7-year-old brother, Joshua “JJ” Vallow, mother Lori and her uncle, Alex Cox, police said. The teen’s younger sibling was last seen on a neighbor’s surveillance video later the same month.

www.nydailynews.com

FBI requests tourists’ photos from Yellowstone National Park amid search for Lori Vallow’s missing kids

The FBI has asked tourists to turn over any photos taken in early September at Yellowstone National Park with the hopes that one could lead them to the missing children of Lori Vallow, who was recently arrested in connection with their disappearance.
www.nydailynews.com www.nydailynews.com
 
Tylee was never seen with any proof they can find since Yellowstone. I guess it does not mean she was killed there but she likely was on that day or in that area. And on its own I remember thinking maybe one would not think it was such an odd trip but then we find out all of the dates, other deaths, Alex's involvement in other deaths or so it looked and more and it was all in the same time period. LE has to have more video and proof than the public knows because Tylee was apparently seen entering the park I believe with the family but never seen leaving I think is what has been shared with the public. But LE has never shown or said there was video of JJ, Alex or Lori leaving either but they don't question that so my guess is that there is video without Tylee they have of the other three departing? I so wish I was familiar with Yellowstone although I know we are talking about tons of acres, etc. but as far as standard entry, parking, etc. cameras. I mean this was a few hour day trip wasn't it so it isn't like they would have a camping permit, etc. and go way, way in.
 
GrandmaBear said:
www.eastidahonews.com

Chad Daybell and 47 others may be called as witnesses in Lori Daybell's court hearings - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Chad Daybell may be called to take the stand at his wife’s preliminary hearing next month, according to newly filed court documents. Lori Vallow Daybell is charged with two counts of felony child abandonment, misdemeanor resisting and obstructing an officer, solicitation of a crime and...
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Interesting.

"Next to Chad’s name, Wood pointed out that under Idaho Rules of Evidence, Chad cannot claim husband and wife privilege, meaning the information the couple shared together in conversations is not confidential."


I think they probably used the "child related communications" exception - "In a criminal or civil action or proceeding as to a communication relevant to an issue concerning the physical, mental or emotional condition of or injury to a child, or concerning the welfare of a child including, but not limited to the abuse, abandonment or neglect of a child."

I.R.E. 504. Husband-Wife Privilege. | Supreme Court

isc.idaho.gov isc.idaho.gov
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Interesting.

"Next to Chad’s name, Wood pointed out that under Idaho Rules of Evidence, Chad cannot claim husband and wife privilege, meaning the information the couple shared together in conversations is not confidential."


I think they probably used the "child related communications" exception - "In a criminal or civil action or proceeding as to a communication relevant to an issue concerning the physical, mental or emotional condition of or injury to a child, or concerning the welfare of a child including, but not limited to the abuse, abandonment or neglect of a child."

I.R.E. 504. Husband-Wife Privilege. | Supreme Court

isc.idaho.gov isc.idaho.gov
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I've heard that is the only time when you don't have marital privilege. I don't know if that stretches state to state or not? I'm just glad it works here. Not that he'll say anything.
 
Grandmabear has tried to give me some details about this case because I didn’t follow it from the beginning and ever time I looked at it, there were more players and deaths, etc than I could keep up with. So many varied points of interest.

I will try to read more about it and keep up. I hope LV is just hiding those kids somewhere, which is cruel enough in itself. It sounds like they aren’t alive though.
Her son, Colby appears very credible and must be heartsick. I mean, that’s his mother. I just don’t understand her dismissive nature.
 
Oneofthem said:
Grandmabear has tried to give me some details about this case because I didn’t follow it from the beginning and ever time I looked at it, there were more players and deaths, etc than I could keep up with. So many varied points of interest.

I will try to read more about it and keep up. I hope LV is just hiding those kids somewhere, which is cruel enough in itself. It sounds like they aren’t alive though.
Her son, Colby appears very credible and must be heartsick. I mean, that’s his mother. I just don’t understand her dismissive nature.
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I miss you! Her oldest son most definitely is the most believable I feel in this case. Kids can never at times even as adults see through their parents or siblings but he seems to know. The twists and turns and people are hard to keep up with as are keeping relationships straight. You asked me the other day and even though I know the case, I got it mixed up in Tylee and Colby on which marriage. Both last names are Ryan however.

I hope too she hid them somewhere but I find it hard to believe because everyone else around them is dead.
 
Do we know when Lori & Chad met?
Chad wrote an excerpt in Melanie's book that was published April 2019.
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Bringing this forward. There may be additional info since I posted it in the first post. But in DECEMBER 2018 they made their first appearance on a podcast together. So they had to have known each other before that, I'd think.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
www.eastidahonews.com www.eastidahonews.com
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SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Bringing this forward. There may be additional info since I posted it in the first post. But in DECEMBER 2018 they made their first appearance on a podcast together. So they had to have known each other before that, I'd think.
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Wow this is great. I’m up way too late tonight but I want to study this tomorrow and familiarize myself with the timeline of the case. Thank you.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I miss you! Her oldest son most definitely is the most believable I feel in this case. Kids can never at times even as adults see through their parents or siblings but he seems to know. The twists and turns and people are hard to keep up with as are keeping relationships straight. You asked me the other day and even though I know the case, I got it mixed up in Tylee and Colby on which marriage. Both last names are Ryan however.

I hope too she hid them somewhere but I find it hard to believe because everyone else around them is dead.
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This is so hard to understand. Killing your two kids at all is crazy, but because some guy says they were taken over by a zombie? He would be the one to disappear on my list!
Lol. Not funny at all. But don’t mess with my kids. This cult of people are all nuts.
 
I added the Yellowstone trip to the timeline. It was not there before.


Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 9, 2019 - Lori, her brother Alex, JJ, and Tylee Ryan visit Yellowstone National Park - Last confirmed sighting of Tylee
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
I added the Yellowstone trip to the timeline. It was not there before.


Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 9, 2019 - Lori, her brother Alex, JJ, and Tylee Ryan visit Yellowstone National Park - Last confirmed sighting of Tylee
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
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It was a great idea to bring this forward. @Oneofthem had not followed this case and by email a few days ago was asking me some questions about it trying to get up to speed. Explaining the marriages, events and people in this one is so hard. Even though I have followed it, I found myself having to check a couple of things regarding the ex husbands and fathers of Tylee and Colby, etc. I tried to give her info in not too big of doses at once because it is so unbelievable. I told her that even the news and Dr. Phil used graphs of the relationships and who each person was and how they were connected.
 
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