JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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I'll add my kudos to @Tresir

She gives and condenses such to follow and I sure appreciate it and need it too. No time whatsoever here :(

If I have it right, on or right near both deaths though Alex did have data points at her apartment for hours on end...

And do I have the idea of data points correct? I believe it means his phone connected to Lori's wifi or Chad's wifi, or at least registered her wifi etc. was there to connect to as he was in the home, etc. and things I think like Lori's doorbell (probably a Ring?)... That's how I am kind of taking it, do I have it right? That's how they place him at the gate at Chad's, at this spot at Lori's, etc.?
Nate said again last night that alex and chads phones were off for a period of time the night that Tammy died. He said that Alex had bought a burner phone just before that. I can’t remember if @Tresir said they could track the burner phones or not?
 
TY Gbear and @Kimster. I am not exactly sure of the technology but it depends on the cell phone tower locations and triangulation between them, I think, which pinpoints the locations. Perhaps the expert explained in their testimonies.
A detective friend of mine said they keep the technology vague for a reason. 😉 The accuracy of triangulation gets more and more precise.
 
Yes, didn't someone have a prior life close to Hitler IIRC? Personally, I think it sounds like dark satanic stuff similar to witchcraft.
Or even just plain make believe to get people to do what they want and to create a world that worships Chad and Lori, unencumbered by responsibilities and monetary restraints.

They aren’t crazy, they are despicably evil.
 
Nate said again last night that alex and chads phones were off for a period of time the night that Tammy died. He said that Alex had bought a burner phone just before that. I can’t remember if @Tresir said they could track the burner phones or not?
I think they had the number and time of texts that Alex sent but not the content of the texts.

Just catching up from yesterday. Ian P's testimony. Cross will be today.


 
Ian is a smart cookie imo. He has a lawyer. Zulema is a smart cookie too.

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Archibald asks why Ian brought an attorney with him. Ian says this is a complicated matter and he wanted one here with him.








Nate Eaton

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The attorney also represented Zumela Pastenes. Ian says his attorney has not told him one thing about Zulema's testimony. Ian says he didn't ask and Smith never told him.

https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow

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Archibald: "You're claiming you don't know anything about this case because you haven't listened to anything since it started five weeks ago," Ian: "Correct."
 
Well that cross was a bunch of baloney. Apparently there are a bunch of recordings of tel calls that Ian made at the behest of LE of Lori and Chad phone calls. These covered the period of Alex's death. Ian said he had not heard the tapes himself so the defence asked that he should be able to listen to them. Boyce has denied the request. So Ian and the court has not heard these recordings.
 
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I am trying to think of a reason why these recorded calls are not being played? Anyone understand why? Could it be because the participants of the calls did not know they were being recorded? Ian said in his testimony that he agreed to record the calls for LE because they were looking for two missing children.

Could it be grounds for an appeal ?
 
Detective Nesbitt on the stand. Lori gets served while sitting by the pool in Hawaii. Then she gets served again for her vehicle. Nate is there too and tries to interview them afterward. We probably all remember that bit. When LE search the vehicle, they find Tylee's credit card.

 
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Detective Nesbitt on the stand. Lori gets served while sitting by the pool in Hawaii. Then she gets served again for her vehicle. Nate is there too and tries to interview them afterward. We probably all remember that bit. When LE search the vehicle, they find Tylee's credit card.


Isn't that when we heard the infamous "that's great" remark?

I tried to keep up on Twitter today, kind of. I feel like Ian's testimony was a waste of time.
 
Isn't that when we heard the infamous "that's great" remark?

I tried to keep up on Twitter today, kind of. I feel like Ian's testimony was a waste of time.
I think Ian was hamstrung and could not say very much. He was a police informer basically, I think. The police maybe provided his lawyer, but I don't know. In the UK, informers have a protected status.

Yes, you are right about the "that's great" comment. Here's an article where Nate is interviewed. He says that day changed his life.

 
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Yes, didn't someone have a prior life close to Hitler IIRC? Personally, I think it sounds like dark satanic stuff similar to witchcraft.
That's exactly what they were doing imo contacting and playing with the dark side of things. Mel G said as much to Lori I think and another podcaster or author said it about Chad, etc. Not sure they all weren't though, even those that said that after the fact.
 

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