JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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Because his is a third party, that makes it hearsay. He wasn't directly having the conversation with the person, he was recording others.
I still don't see that as any different to the police themselves recording it. He was wearing a wire for the FBI. He was a legitimate informant so it just doesn't make sense to me at all. There has to be a very good reason that the prosecution do not want it in. But we just don't know it for now.
 
I still don't see that as any different to the police themselves recording it. He was wearing a wire for the FBI. He was a legitimate informant so it just doesn't make sense to me at all. There has to be a very good reason that the prosecution do not want it in. But we just don't know it for now.
I don't know, I would have to refresh on the facts but he volunteered for one, they didn't ask him to and didn't seem really all that interested if I am recalling it all correctly.

The big part is did they have a warrant for this? When they tap, etc. they have a warrant.
 
What a morning already. Got up at 4 on only day off for days on end and days to come with plans to travel, not for fun, on a one day turnaround trip, all ready to go and it was called off at the last minute grrrrr. Not only that but daughter rescheduled a bunch of plans to go with me so it put us both out.

While getting ready I have been listening to Audrey's testimony. I am listening to her cross-exam right now. She is being cross examined right now.

Four hours sleep when I could have slept in!!
 
But if he was doing this at their bidding, it should be covered by them.
Ian volunteered and it didn't seem like they were even all that interested so not really sure this was any formal arrangement. I base that on something from last night, but as I said, don't quote me. It wasn't allowed in so clearly something wasn't formal or at least admissible about it.
 
You did catch didn't you @Guess Who that when Jesus comes back he is coming to Missouri?? Not to Jerusalem as Archibald asks Audrey but to Missouri?

I want you to have notice is all. LDS says so.

Archibald sure wants to go into the religious part of this and the church.

Adam and Eve lived in Missouri is news to me.
 
So all the time on the beach in Hawaii was uncomfortable because all they were doing was talking zombies and about MELANIE'S KIDS. Lori and Mel talking this.

I don't think I have to say more.
 
I am trying to think of a reason why these recorded calls are not being played? Anyone understand why? Could it be because the participants of the calls did not know they were being recorded? Ian said in his testimony that he agreed to record the calls for LE because they were looking for two missing children.

Could it be grounds for an appeal ?

I'm sure the police got a warrant to record the calls. So, they would be admissible.
 
She is so full of sh*t. Even God wouldn't "say" such but Lori controls Satan? Unbelievable.

Colin Jost Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
You did catch didn't you @Guess Who that when Jesus comes back he is coming to Missouri?? Not to Jerusalem as Archibald asks Audrey but to Missouri?

I want you to have notice is all. LDS says so.

Archibald sure wants to go into the religious part of this and the church.

Adam and Eve lived in Missouri is news to me.
well, I'm pretty close to one of the temples, so I should at least get to see what happens! :teehee:
 

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