JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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TWO DAYS after Alex killed Charles he went to Colombia. Supposedly Rex asked Alex's mom how the police could let him go and she said well it was self defense, there aren't going to be any charges!

What??

I find it a bit odd Rex said this or thought that so quickly... So teh family and extended family WAS talking of it right away...

We all already know the fact LE did nothing and let them go was ridiculous, lazy or corrupt.

Rex theorizes or speculates that the whole Zombie thing was made up for Alex to get him to do things/kill people. He says Alex had a conscience and they knew he wouldn't kill people he knew and loved but IF he believed for instance Charles was Ned Scneider or whoever and the kids were zombies and so forth, he would then do it. I am paraphrasing of course.
 
The one I linked I will recommend as a MUST WATCH. They are speculating some and address things many, including myself, have been saying they don't touch on or avoid.

For instance the Mels and Zulema and why they haven't been charged. They don't know but SUSPECT they have immunity agreements.

Another interesting tidbit is Adam knew Alex was dead a WEEK before his parents knew.
 
Zulema held Alex's service. None of them (i.e. Rex, Janice, etc.) knew Alex was married. I take it Janice didn't know anyhow. She met Zulema first time at service.

Rex says it went like Alex is dead. Is there going to be some kind of service. Oh yes, his wife's in charge of that. What wife? He's not married. Oh yes he is. He says that is how "we" found out. Not sure who said this to him if it was Janice or Janice didn't know.

Regardless they find out Alex is dead and married (or some do) at the same time.

Yeah this one bears watching. All should watch it.
 
Ah maybe Janice did know but was the first time she met Z apparently.

Rex says there were like 15 people there. Only people invited by Janice iand Zulema were those that didn't think Alex was a killer. Rex got to go because he hadn't said one way or the other or expressed what he thought.

Boy this family has issues. Sorry but clearly... Maybe Adam will or has come out of it or stayed out of some but...
 
Neither believes Alex's death was natural causes. Died as we know day after Tammy's body was exhumed. Rex says Mel P (loves her but), Mel G and Zulema they can speculate they know MORE about everything than they have said.

A new nugget, I think is they heard or at least Rex did from someone (not Z he says) that Alex said to someone (who is not clear) he had to do something so horrific, he didn't know how to deal with it.

Again, this one is a MUST watch imo.
 
Thinks Alex's conscience may have been getting to him at the end. he said to someone I'm either a man of God or I'm not. We've heard that before I think.

they mention the text from Lori to Chad of have you talked to Alex recently, he's been alone too long.... I take that to mean if they weren't on Alex with their witchery and convincing, Alex's conscience came about if he was not part o fhing s and was left alone... TYPICAL CULT b.s. Their point is I think that Alex had to go as he was starting to have doubts or guilt...
 
Rex also says re the text "he's been alone too long" he adds "he is the only way they can get to us". I don't know if he means Lori said that in the text to Chad or if he is surmising that part... Sounds like it was part of the text though...
 
Adam thinks suicide or Chad and Lori ordered Alex be taken out.

He leans now towards poison and the same poison he feels was used on Tammy that is untraceable, causes blood clots, etc. can't be found in autopsy, etc. He thinks there must be ways around it being found and they figured out how. He doesn't know if eyedrops or other things or etc., etc. all sorts of speculation out there he says...
 
Adam says he thinks most people feel he was murdered or suicided. I agree and feel he was murdered honestly, the timing alone leads me to that over suicide.

I can't understand how a coroner can rule it anything but undetermined but I GUESS if there is a blood clot, etc. and they can't find another thing, they maybe HAVE to? This is my wondering, no ttheirs.

Rex says Alex got the easy way out. On this side, not sure what he will face on the other side. He wants anyone associated with these murders to face justice and Alex didn't. It makes me think Rex feels it was suicide.

I don't. I think it was murder OR he was DIRECTED to commit suicide. I lean heavily to murder.
 
GrandmaBear said:
here is another one with Brax. As Kimster said he sure is making the rounds. This one is with Nate. In everything I've seen him in he makes a point of mentioning his appearances on TV, on a show called I think Doomsday Preppers, a book I think, etc. I am NOT impressed and honestly he is as obsessed as his cousin Lori, maybe more so with the prepper thing. They were close on this stuff and I really have to wonder about him. Anyone so impressed with Julie Rowe just adds to that imo.

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Yeah, I saw red flags in his first interview on Silver linings. First, he seemed kind of arrogant. Secondly, he said his wife didn’t like that he was so addicted to being a prepper or whatever. However, he said it.

Sounds like he’s getting more comfortable with his interviews and letting it all hang out.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Okay. I am part way through and THIS ONE is the most interesting one yet. FINALLY they are addressing some things and not "avoiding" them with Alex and his sexual things. They are talkign of his Colombia trips. And Alex when Rex was divorced actually tried to get Rex to go along... How these were package trips and even though Alex not the best looking or worst was the better looking at these things and not as old as some of the men who did this. Of course the women wanted to come to America, etc... The women that went to meet these men, many older men, etc. lol Alex felt like a beatle as he walked down the stage and the women were chanting his name... I think they mean one of THE BEATLES. FAmous, special. Wow the sh*t that goes on in this world. Not quite a mail order bride, but a new version?
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I watched it last night as well, and I thought it was very interesting. I didn’t understand the going to Columbia to meet women thing until they explained in detail last night. I thought it was really interesting that they both think he was killed.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Ah maybe Janice did know but was the first time she met Z apparently.

Rex says there were like 15 people there. Only people invited by Janice iand Zulema were those that didn't think Alex was a killer. Rex got to go because he hadn't said one way or the other or expressed what he thought.

Boy this family has issues. Sorry but clearly... Maybe Adam will or has come out of it or stayed out of some but...
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Adam found out right away because the feds told Brandon, but he was told to be quiet about it. His parents didn’t know until a week later! What is up with them not telling their family about deaths. Unless there’s something nefarious going on!
 
GrandmaBear said:
Neither believes Alex's death was natural causes. Died as we know day after Tammy's body was exhumed. Rex says Mel P (loves her but), Mel G and Zulema they can speculate they know MORE about everything than they have said.

A new nugget, I think is they heard or at least Rex did from someone (not Z he says) that Alex said to someone (who is not clear) he had to do something so horrific, he didn't know how to deal with it.

Again, this one is a MUST watch imo.
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I thought that came out in trial? He told Zulema? And supposedly she couldn’t get it out of him what he was talking about.

I don’t believe her. She’s holding something back. She got immunity and so now she can just sit there and not say everything if she doesn’t want to.
 
Kimster said:
Yeah, I saw red flags in his first interview on Silver linings. First, he seemed kind of arrogant. Secondly, he said his wife didn’t like that he was so addicted to being a prepper or whatever. However, he said it.

Sounds like he’s getting more comfortable with his interviews and letting it all hang out.
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Yeah I noticed that in the very first one of his too, the remark about the wife. And he talked as if Lori and he were friendly and had some things in common but in the one of these now he is all out there and also citing a bunch of LDS stuff that you'd think to listen to him he thought all were LDS and he almost acts like he is quoting the Bible to us but it isn't and Lauren had to keep telling him or asking, you are quoting the Bible but this thing or that thing right? I am paraphrasing. Now it also sounds like he and Lori were tight, etc. He was ticking me off and he was REALLY ticking others offf. The one with her was done back when and I don't think she ever shared it, she is now that he has come out and it's kind of night and day what he acted like on Silver Linings. Not sure when it was made...
 
Kimster said:
I watched it last night as well, and I thought it was very interesting. I didn’t understand the going to Columbia to meet women thing until they explained in detail last night. I thought it was really interesting that they both think he was killed.
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I think the Colombia thing was explained by one of the women he met there. Can't recall if it was in like a post of some type or she was on a show. Seems to me I saw her...

I'm not sure Rex doesn't lean more towards suicide with Alex, it was kind of hard to tell but neither things it was natural causes.
 
Kimster said:
Adam found out right away because the feds told Brandon, but he was told to be quiet about it. His parents didn’t know until a week later! What is up with them not telling their family about deaths. Unless there’s something nefarious going on!
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Exactly. I don't think Lori would have told ANY of them and I wonder why and when she or whoever did...
 
Kimster said:
I thought that came out in trial? He told Zulema? And supposedly she couldn’t get it out of him what he was talking about.

I don’t believe her. She’s holding something back. She got immunity and so now she can just sit there and not say everything if she doesn’t want to.
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It may have, I didn't get to watch all of the trial, or listen, that's for sure.

I think they are all holding stuff back. As in anything that implciates themselves for sure and I think they may have as much as possible tried to help Lori too, in a small way. The put Chad as the leader without a doubt and don't get me wrong, I think he every bit was as bad but I don't think Lori was nay meek follower either.
 
Kimster said:
Yeah, I wasn’t that interesting!
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Yes. I think this MAY have been one where they seemed most trutfhul. I don't mean they are lying but they avoid a lot of things especially about family in the other ones. AS they said they can speculate about Alex because he is dead or something on that order... Meaning it is more okay to go there...
 
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