JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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Prior put on a slide show & basically said that light/dark is common in traditional lds and Chad had every right to oractice his religious teachings. He did stress MG wasn't questioned or looked into enough. Blah, blah, blah

The prosecution wove the story together in a nice bow though.
Well I think this light and dark is very suspect, especially when using it on kids.

I cannot understand anyone claiming this is religious tolerance. Rating a special needs child or any child as dark is inhuman. That's all there is to it.
 
Well I think this light and dark is very suspect, especially when using it on kids.

I cannot understand anyone claiming this is religious tolerance. Rating a special needs child or any child as dark is inhuman. That's all there is to it.
Agreed! And I'm 100% for religious freedom, but this isn't religion, IMO. This sort of thing is child abuse! Even if it's just verbal!
 
This quick almost certainly will be guilty across the board. 12 did not disagree on one imo.

Tresir is busy today, hope she see this though and I was checking like every 15 minutes or so almost all day and had just gotten into watching a dry and boring but probably important hearing on Kohberger and thinking it was time to get some laundry done and had started to get away from checking.

Now who to watch as both Nate and Linda IF she sees it will probably both come on...

I don't want to jinx anything but we all know a verdict this soon is almost certainly guilty on all counts.

They all did a fantastic job but Lindsey Blake's closing was a home run. So I will get the verdict before I ever listen to Prior's or Lindsey's comeback as I still haven't. Figured that might happen lol and will I now go finish the rest with little time? Hard to say. I intend to buy will see.

You know I wondered a lot of things listening to her and looking at the defense table at the same time where they have like four views of the courtroom. I had to wonder if Chad was just fantasizing about seeing a woman and her legs or if he was realizing with how smart he thinks he is and his manipulations that she and the public saw clear through I'm and was he wondering how and pi**Ed she's smarter than he... Was he reliving every moment she talked about and relishing the details of the murders? Was he worried? What was going through his stone cold psycho mind as she put every single solitary piece and detail together for the jury? Any embarassment, shame, fear? I don't think so somehow.

We aren't ever going to be able to totally fathom such minds. Lori is AS guilty but I see them differently. Hard to explain.

Since we have time to wait I will touch on a couple things I haven't had time to.

One think in Blake's closing that bothered me. Well it did and it did not because they had to do it to get the big kahunas, first Lori now him, is how not just with Alex but she did it with the Mels and Zulema to, is how they all believed in the leader, Chad, just as Alex did. That bothered me some as we know they aren't innocent. But showing it and saying it made the case about the manipualtion and leadership of Chad the BIG FAT KAHUNA. Okay he may not be the fat one any longer but I still see him that way. Fish, toad, whatever.

It also made me feel like it told me we aren't going to see further prosecutions of others in the group. Not sure how I feel about that. They did, even the worst imo, Mel P, I guess do their part in this trial but she sure did not in Lori's.. I don't think any told the whole truth. And I'd HOPE they would never instigate or be part of anything so evil again.

It did however help the whole theme of all looked to Chad, Chad was the leader, Chad had the visions, Chad rated people, Chad knew what they were to do.

If some haven't, even after this, DO watch her closing. It will help even order your own thoughts, it did mine.

Okay, I was going to go do laundry and still could quickly get a load in down there but I am NOT missing THIS.

Long, long time coming. JJ and Tylee and Tammy, justice is ON its way. And even though it is not his trial, Charles will be rejoicing as well. IMO and prediction!

And Chad won't show an emotion, even for self. I am betting on it... He needs to look invincible and godlike, doesn't affect him in case Lori, Lolo, Elena is watching or ever sees it...
 
Well I think this light and dark is very suspect, especially when using it on kids.

I cannot understand anyone claiming this is religious tolerance. Rating a special needs child or any child as dark is inhuman. That's all there is to it.
And INCREASING the kids' pain levels. But ya know they weren't the kids, they were inhabited by zombies... they weren't killing the kid only killing the evil inhabitant of the body...
 
Fantastic. Am so glad this jury would not accept any of this religious BS as justification or excuse for murder.
I meant what I am predicting. You might have thought I meant we heard the ruling. Sorry. I can see how it could be taken either way.
 

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