JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

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Are Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell serial killers? Has their doomsday cult finally ended? Keep up-to-date on this bizarre case!

Keep up-to-date on this case at Crimewatchers.net!

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[Kimster]

9:55 a.m. Wood asks Colby about the day Charles Vallow died. Colby says Lori called him at work and said Charles died of a heart attack.

9:56 a.m. The day Charles died, Colby went home, and Tylee greeted him. Alex was sitting on the couch watching TV and had a bandage on his hand. Colby asked Alex what happened. Alex said he had been hit with a bat, and then he shot Charles. That night he said Lori’s demeanor was “calm.”

I've often wondered why she lied to Colby as to how Charles died!

 

[Kimster]

10:01 a.m. Wood asks Colby about the night of Sept. 8, 2019. Colby asked Tylee for money, and Tylee responded that she was no longer in control of her money, but her mom was handling it. Colby says he spoke with Lori that day. He heard Tylee over the phone, and Lori said they were at the Yellowstone National Park gift store.

I don't remember hearing about this before?

 

[RoundPeg]

10:01 a.m. Wood asks Colby about the night of Sept. 8, 2019. Colby asked Tylee for money, and Tylee responded that she was no longer in control of her money, but her mom was handling it. Colby says he spoke with Lori that day. He heard Tylee over the phone, and Lori said they were at the Yellowstone National Park gift store.

I don't remember hearing about this before?

I don’t either.

 

[Kimster]

Tape of a jail call between Colby and Lori. OH MY GOSH!

11:23 a.m. Colby to Lori: “It kills me to watch you take the victim’s route and say this shouldn’t have happened to you when you are telling me that Chad Daybell came into your life and all of a sudden everything changes. And I’m talking about my spirit feels this. I prayed, I trusted you, I gave you every chance I could past my own limitations of a human being. I pushed back all of everything to try and get to you to help my own mother. You lied to me specifically to me more times than I can count about this. To know that they’re gone and you knew and my phone’s being texted by my little sister who is not even alive. My little brother, who is the sweetest little kid ever…you tell me this is God’s will for my whole family including my stepfather to be dead after everything that you’d tried to tell me you can tell me right now that Jesus Christ, the Savior of the World is on your side? You tell me that with all the conviction of your heart that Jesus Christ is on your side right now. Please.” Lori responds, “I can tell you that.”

11:26 a.m. Colby is telling his mother that Jesus will judge his mom and she begins to laugh. He calls her out for laughing and Lori says nobody was there. She says nobody understands and Tylee and JJ know exactly what happened. “They love me and they are fine and they know the truth and we are the only people that do.” Lori says Colby can judge her and the whole world can judge her.

11:27 a.m. Colby yelling at his mother to tell him that Jesus Christ told her to do these things. “The kids are found buried in your new husband’s backyard?!?”

There's a lot more at the link! Oh my, I'm going to want to listen to this tape when it's released!

DAY 11 | LIVE UPDATES: Colby Ryan, Lori Vallow Daybell's son, takes the stand in murder trial - East Idaho News

LIVE UPDATES FROM THE LORI VALLOW DAYBELL TRIAL 11:33 a.m. I will play the entire call tonight on “Courtroom Insider” at 7:30 p.m. It is something. The defense and prosecution have no questions about the call and Colby is dismissed from the witness stand. 11:31 a.m. Colby tells his mom he prays...

www.eastidahonews.com

 

[Kimster]

Nate Eaton will play it tonight. I'll be in a meeting, but will catch it when I can.

11:33 a.m. I will play the entire call tonight on “Courtroom Insider” at 7:30 p.m. It is something. The defense and prosecution have no questions about the call and Colby is dismissed from the witness stand.

 

[Tresir]

That's basically how all cults work.

Often something is lacking in their life and/or family and the religion/LDS/cult etc fills that gap and makes them have self worth etc ie it exploits them.

I just had a thought - the women who got her phone confiscated and got ejected - it would be funny if it was Janis.

 

[Tresir]

Lori Vallow mouthed 'oh my baby' at her only surviving son Colby Ryan before he took the stand in her murder trial

Colby Ryan — Lori Vallow's only surviving child — took the stand Tuesday in her Boise, Idaho, murder trial.

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When Colby Ryan — Lori Vallow's only living child — entered the Boise, Idaho, courtroom where she is on trial, Vallow mouthed, "Oh my baby."

Vallow and her husband Chad Daybell, have both been charged with multiple counts of conspiracy, murder, and grand theft in connection with the deaths of Vallow's two youngest children: 7-year-old Joshua "J.J." Vallow and his teenage sister, Tylee Ryan, last seen in 2019. They are also charged in connection to the death of Daybell's then-wife, Tammy Daybell.

On Tuesday, gasps broke out in the courtroom when Ryan, 27, took the stand. He wept on the witness stand, and Vallow dabbed her eyes.

Ryan identified photos of his two late siblings, JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, whom he last spoke to shortly before her 17th birthday in the fall of 2019.

He told the jury about conversations he had with his mother about the life insurance policies of her two dead husbands. He also testified that at some point — after his little sister Tylee had stopped responding to his calls and FaceTimes — he began receiving messages from her that didn't sound like she had written them.

Ryan told the jury that on July 11, 2019, Vallow told him that her fourth husband, Charles Vallow, had died of a heart attack. It wasn't until he went to his mother's Phoenix-area home that evening that his uncle Alex Cox told him a different story, Ryan testified.

Ryan testified that Cox, who wore a white bandage, told him "he had got hit in the head with a baseball bat and had shot Charles Vallow."

Ryan testified further about discussions he had with his mother about the life insurance policies for her two dead husbands, Joe Ryan, who died in 2018, and Charles Vallow.

"They were, quote-unquote, out of money," Ryan told the jury his mother told him around 2019.

Ryan testified that Tylee had been the recipient of the life insurance for Joe Ryan — who was her father and Ryan's stepfather. Ryan testified that occasionally Tylee sent him money via Venmo.

The last time they spoke by phone, September 8, 2019 — which prosecutors say is the last day there is proof Tylee was alive — Tylee told her big brother that their mother was now overseer of that life insurance payout, Ryan testified.

"She said she was no longer in control of her money and my mom was handling it," he told the jury.

Ryan testified that he attempted to call and FaceTime his sister throughout the fall of 2019, but she never answered. Instead, he received text messages from her number, written in a voice that did not sound like her, he testified.

"Texts I was receiving back were in a different language than she had used," he said.

Meanwhile, he testified that his mother told him she intended to remarry, but would not say to whom. She said she had moved from her Phoenix-area home to a new location that she would not specify, Ryan testified.

"She told me she was moving somewhere cold and it was dangerous for her to tell anybody where she was," he told the jury.

In truth, Vallow had moved to Rexburg, Idaho, to be with her fifth husband, Chad Daybell.

Ryan — who was featured in the Netflix true-crime series about the case — has spoken out repeatedly about his mother since her arrest. He has accused her of lying to him for a long time — including telling her that his stepfather Charles Vallow had died of a heart attack when she knew he had been shot.

He has also said he believed she would have died for her two younger children and that he was shocked to find out she was a suspect in their disappearance.

 

[Kimster]

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Next witness called by the state is Mark Saari. He is a special agent with the Social Security Administration.


12:40 p.m. Saari’s responsibilites include investigating fraud. In January 2020, his office was contacted by the FBI in Arizona about two missing kids. Saari was asked to investigate whether the benefits for the children were being misused by their mother. Saari reviewed police reports from Rexburg and met with the FBI.

 

[Kimster]

12:51 p.m. The exhibit is a document sent to Lori Vallow detailing the mother, child and care responsibilities sent to Lori Vallow in regard to caring for JJ. One line says benefits could be lost if any child dies. Another line says SS must be notified if the person moves. Another line says custody changes, change of maritial status, deaths or change of addresses must be reported to SS. “You must report marriage even if you believe an exception applies.”

Let's see.... I predict that Lori never notified SSI of ANY changes.


ETA: 12:54 p.m. Saari says Lori Vallow never reported her kids were missing, that she remarried or that she moved to Hawaii. State has no further questions. Archibald says he has no questions. Saari is released from the witness stand.

 

[Kimster]

12:55 p.m. Next witness on the stand is Rexburg Police Det. Chuck Kunsaitis.

1:01 p.m. Rod Wood says the state would like to enter multiple business records and affidavits. He is reading a list of the exhibit numbers.
ETA: 1:11 p.m. By my count, Wood is asking to admit 32 documents. Some of the files have more than one part. Wood will now show each of the documents and ask Det. Kunsaitis about them.

 

[Kimster]

1:17 p.m. Kunsaitis also issued a warrant for a P.O. Box Lori had opened in Sugar City, Idaho. There was around 100 pieces of mail in the box for Lori, Charles Vallow, Alex Cox and her children. There were bills and letters from the Social Security Administration and IRS.

1:19 p.m. The manager of the apartment complex where Lori was living told detectives he also had mail for Lori and Alex. Police obtained a warrant for the mail and Kunsaitis says there were bills and other financial letters.

1:20 p.m. Kunsaitis has a list of financial institutions associated with Lori Vallow and Tylee Ryan.
1:22 p.m. Wood shows the list of accounts on the screen for the jury. They include:


– A JP Morgan Chase account with Charles Vallow
– A JP Morgan Chase account shared with Tylee Ryan
– A JP Morgan Chase account shared with Charles Vallow
– A BBVA personal account for Lori Vallow
– A BBVA shared account for Lori and Tylee
– A Barclays Hawaiian account shared with Charles Vallow
– A Barclays account shared with Alex Cox
– A First Hawaiian bank account for Lori Vallow
– A Chase Southwest joint account
– A national life insurance account for Lori Vallow

 

[Kimster]

1:34 p.m. Kunsaitis now describing the final bank statement from Tylee’s account. There are multiple transactions on multiple days. It shows their travels as they moved from Arizona to Idaho. The final in-person purchase was on Sept. 1 at McDonald’s in St. George, Utah. The last payment for Tylee’s social security in this account was the previous July so deposits had stopped into this account.

1:36 p.m. The final transaction on Tylee’s account was on Sept. 20. The balance on the account was $10.04 and an online transfer was made on Sept. 20 to Lori Vallow’s JP Morgan Chase account. Nothing else was done on this account.

1:37 p.m. Kunsaitis says the Rexburg Police Department has determined the last proof of life for Tylee Ryan was on Sept. 8 or 9, 2019.

 

[Tresir]

As I was searching for Janis Cox, this article came up where she says she last talked to JJ on 1st October. I do hope she testifies and gets asked about this.

Lori Vallow Daybell's Mom Says She Spoke with Joshua Vallow | Law & Crime

It's hard to find people who'd publicly defend controversial criminal defendant Lori Vallow Daybell, but it's not impossible. Her mother Janis Cox and sister Summer Shiflet spoke to CBS's 48 Hours in a new interview, and one of them made a startling claim: Cox said she spoke to the defendant's...

lawandcrime.com

 

[Tresir]

1:34 p.m. Kunsaitis now describing the final bank statement from Tylee’s account. There are multiple transactions on multiple days. It shows their travels as they moved from Arizona to Idaho. The final in-person purchase was on Sept. 1 at McDonald’s in St. George, Utah. The last payment for Tylee’s social security in this account was the previous July so deposits had stopped into this account.

1:36 p.m. The final transaction on Tylee’s account was on Sept. 20. The balance on the account was $10.04 and an online transfer was made on Sept. 20 to Lori Vallow’s JP Morgan Chase account. Nothing else was done on this account.

1:37 p.m. Kunsaitis says the Rexburg Police Department has determined the last proof of life for Tylee Ryan was on Sept. 8 or 9, 2019.

So she took all Tylee's money and benefits by the look of it.

This is all so depressing and sad.

 

[RoundPeg]

Sound quality isn't great.

 

[Tresir]

This is a copy of the witness alibi for Lori for the murders of Tylee, JJ and Tammy. She is blaming it all on Alex and Chad and appears to be saying that Tylee also died at the same time as JJ. There is no proof of life for Tylee after the 8th September though, as we know.

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/010523%20Notice%20of%20Alibi.pdf

 

[Tresir]

This is Nate's thread for the testimonies of Mark Saari and Det Kunsaitis.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Nate Eaton will play it tonight. I'll be in a meeting, but will catch it when I can.

11:33 a.m. I will play the entire call tonight on “Courtroom Insider” at 7:30 p.m. It is something. The defense and prosecution have no questions about the call and Colby is dismissed from the witness stand.

I listened to it last night I think on Nate or somewhere. Wasn't the best audio but one could make it out.

I also listened to Colby's testimony. There wasn't any huge "smoking gun" but plenty more to just add to the fact Lori knew, Lori was involved and part of it, etc. Lies. Life insurance. Controlling the money, being broke, etc.

He was a good witness in that he answered without hesitation, mostly yes or no succintly, was calm, etc. and did his part.

I was surprised (or did I miss it) he wasn't asked about the vehicle he was given etc.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This morning while getting ready for yet another work day, I put on one that was just a lunch time update from Lauren of Hidden True Crime who is at the trial. Lunch time yesterday.

I haven't quite finished with it but so far, a couple of key things I think. First was that Colby and Lori's relationship seemed to have a lot of religion basis, her apparently raising him that way(?) and him calling her out on what she did not being in the name of Jesus, etc. The best point was/is that he kept telling her to tell him that this act was done in the name of Jesus or at the request of Jesus and repeatedly and she would never SAY it was or say that out loud. You see, she KNOWS it wasn't imo and even SHE wouldn't utter such. That's my opinion and imo Colby's test of her and her guilt.

My own take from that phone call, one thing, was him repeatedly telling her to look him in the eye, apparently she couldn't and wouldn't.

There wasn't any real big bombshell in his testimony but I think the ramifications of all of it are pretty telling and kind of quietly big in their own right.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I think a good recap of Colby's testimony and emotions and short one, 15 minutes. Touched on a few other things as well.