How's that though? He had absolutely no lower body injuries. If you think those scratches on his arm were caused by plastic, why was there absolutely no tissue or blood found on any of the taillight pieces?
Where are his injuries caused by being hit and then presumably thrown 30 ft away? There would at least be some kind of major bruising on the impact area. The only bruising was in his head and we know her car didn't levitate over 6 ft in the air.
They should not have locked into what caused the scratches. And the 30 feet although that particular thing I don't know enough about why they claim such.
Prosecution caused some of their own problems by some of this. But even so, probably half from what it sounds like the jury felt there was enough to prove she did it. At the next one I can tell them exactly what to focus on and focus hard on. I am guessing so can the jurors that can see the guilty despite these things.
I was in here for a bit. No one caused me to leave. I just couldn't do the blinders and one side. I wanted both. In some cases I don't, and I see enough one way. In this one, I wanted some impartial discussion. Some of the sh*t is so biased it isn't even funny. I've been there for SURE don't get me wrong. All is interpreted the way one believes or has developed a hard leaning towards.
Not a single person shared things that would favor at all her guilt, other than Summer of course doing some mostly fair and balanced articles, no discussion did. It still doesn't from what I see.
No one shared a thing or most things from the prosecution like how about the niece's testimony? That's just ONE example... I asked. I just recently came across a bit about this and I don't even actively follow this case or look for it but sadly it has been about all that's been on the last few weeks on YT where I mostly hang, and here.
Proctor and a lot of other things and a very imperfect investigation did not help a thing and that's for sure. I've never said otherwise, not once. But I find enough in Karen's behavior herself and statements and a few other things to get beyond reasonable doubt. I don't know for certain that I could get to intent but I do believe or lean towards she intended it at that MOMENT.
I have a bias, I can't STAND her. I tell myself constantly to not look at things in a way due to that. I was not that way at first though and I am a blanket as far as most of them. I have drank, I will still have a drink, pretty sure you are the same, but I also can say when you are LE doing that, like with your coach's son the other coach someone in a position, or the SD attorney general etc. (I'd bet on it) you're all being as stupid as can be and asking for it. I am not much nicer about OK himself. They were OUT and drinking and he was going to go out further and she was DRIVING.
Who even knows what happened entirely at the bar, on the way to the house, or while in the car at the home...
SHE SHOWED HER KNOWLEDGE and guilt in many a way unless every single person including the young niece is lying.
Jmo and I probably won't hang around lol. IF the CW eats some sh*t and she does, it is what I think I've said throughout, she needs to take some responsibility, at best she was drunk and claimed she couldn't even remember going there at first (I have never bought that) and she got home and said what to the niece....? And backed up in the yard when dropping him off...
His parents and family DESERVE justice and I can't talk for them but at this point would probably be happy if she served any time, even in county for a few years. I will bet dollars to donuts thought that KR won't do it. She should, she had about half it sounds like against her and thinking her guilty.
And ALL need to clear the court for more than the BS this case has turned into. I feel for his parents, don't get me wrong, and do know what it is like to get a TOTAL GUILTY VERDICT but a SHORT sentence. But there is also this, he was WITH her, they were drinking, apparently was a volatile a lot of the time relationship and they didn't even live together full time, and apparently he wanted to go t o the party and continue partying. I don't mean to blame him but am saying I think for anyone to believe they both hadn't probably drank to excess and got into some major drunken argument after leaving the bar is a reach.
And yes, I have to tell myself to remember not to assume because I dislike her so much. And I DO and have come to that. I did not start out that way.
At best the woman did not even KNOW if she hit him. That's if ONE assumes she didn't say I hit him, I hit him, I hit him KNOWING it. And then she goes on to say what she did to the niece and far more. She BACKED UP. She was hysterical and panicked because it all started to sink in. OMG it is just so obvious... And then she KNEW where he was...
Whatever happened, she's as dislikable of a defendant as I've ever seen in a case that isn't even about a murdered child but someone else drunk (I think it is reasonable to assume that, sorry to his folks).
And she gets herself a Hollywood type attorney and by the way I have watched some, I just don't seek to but nothing else has been on. He made more than a few blunders imo. Getting that paycheck though.
Why doesn't she just admit it and the CW make a deal for involuntary manslaughter?
I won't get into how political I think it is on top of it all.
Okay. Lol a work night, another day tomorrow, don't know why I read a single thing. Oh I do know as I was going to share this so went back like two pages to see if ya all knew that Proctor is uhm whatever but with full pay.... I didn't want to post it if it was already shared and redundant but I haven't gotten far enough to know as I started responding to posts. He is a Mark Furhman or worse. I don't deny that.
Massachusetts State Police Trooper Michael Proctor, the lead investigator in the Karen Read murder case, has been fired effective immediately.
www.bostonherald.com
It doesn't mean Karen didn't kill John though.
