Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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Diary dates -

Nov 6th is the appeal and Jan 27th is the scheduled retrial.

Here's a link to a recap of the episode for anyone who may not plan to watch.

www.boston.com

Highlights from Karen Read’s ‘Dateline’ special, from a ‘coy’ tipster to calls with Turtleboy

The "Dateline" episode chronicles a nearly three-year saga that began when Karen Read allegedly killed Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe.
www.boston.com


Copy of final paragraph of article below-

What’s next?​

Read’s lawyers are seeking to dismiss two of her charges after jurors allegedly came forward to say they unofficially agreed to acquit Read of second-degree murder and leaving the scene of a fatal accident. The Supreme Judicial Court is scheduled to hear the appeal Nov. 6.
In the meantime, newly appointed special prosecutor Hank Brennan is requesting access to phone records from Read’s father, William, as well as written and recorded statements he made to Boston 25 News last year.
According to an affidavit accompanying Brennan’s request, Read’s parents have attributed statements to her that are relevant to Read’s “state of mind, intent, and conduct in the minutes and hours following the murder” and are either inconsistent with her previous statements to authorities or refuted by other evidence.
Read’s second trial is slated to begin Jan. 27.
 



Arguments for appeal are under way, By the questions the judges are asking, and lack of a true answer to those questions, this is not going comfortably for the prosecution. But, to be fair, I didn't hear much of the defense. I did hear enough to tell that the judges (Massachusetts Supreme Court) did not ask the same kind of questions to the defense as they were the prosecution.
 
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There is a new prosecutor on the case. He noticed that Karen made a call to her mother at 1:30a.m. on the day she allegedly hit John. The call was never answered. It was the only call to her parents before John's body was discovered. He wants her parent's phone records to see how many times Karen called her parents at 1:30a.m. before.

Turtle boy's phone automatically deletes messages after thirty days, and the prosecutor finds that problematic. He seems to suggest that this was done on purpose. Well, my phone deletes things after 30 days. So why is that suspicious?
 
Cousin Dupree said:
There is a new prosecutor on the case. He noticed that Karen made a call to her mother at 1:30a.m. on the day she allegedly hit John. The call was never answered. It was the only call to her parents before John's body was discovered. He wants her parent's phone records to see how many times Karen called her parents at 1:30a.m. before.

Turtle boy's phone automatically deletes messages after thirty days, and the prosecutor finds that problematic. He seems to suggest that this was done on purpose. Well, my phone deletes things after 30 days. So why is that suspicious?
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I was mistaken about a couple of things there. It's not her mother she called, it was her father.

Also, Turtle boy's phone deletes texts every thirty days. My phone only deletes pictures permanently thirty days after I delete them. My texts go back since the exchanges with friends started.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
I was mistaken about a couple of things there. It's not her mother she called, it was her father.

Also, Turtle boy's phone deletes texts every thirty days. My phone only deletes pictures permanently thirty days after I delete them. My texts go back since the exchanges with friends started.
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Does the phone provider keep them?
 
Tresir said:
Does the phone provider keep them?
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I think so, but on my phone right now, the oldest text I have is from September 26, 2018. That would be very shortly after I got this phone. (I didn't realize it was that old.) So my phone doesn't delete texts. If Turtle Boy set his to delete after thirty days, it's odd. However, it's nobodies business if he chooses to do that or not.
 
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I think so, but on my phone right now, the oldest text I have is from September 26, 2018. That would be very shortly after I got this phone. (I didn't realize it was that old.) So my phone doesn't delete texts. If Turtle Boy set his to delete after thirty days, it's odd. However, it's nobodies business if he chooses to do that or not.
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Perhaps he has a lot of texts. I manuallly delete mine and didn't know you could do that. I'll have to look what my oldest one is.

ETA my oldest are 2019. Pretty sure i have had it longer than 5 years so maybe it's default is that.
 
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KR speaks after the hearing for a few seconds. She should go on the stand if she has anything to say. Its only short and is at 42 seconds in. At about 1.50 there is a still of JM where he was found so i screenshot it. Link and screenshot both below.

The screenshot is not that good if someone wants to try and get a clearer one. My phone is on its last legs, a bit like me. It looks to me like where they are looking is at a road driveway but i am not that sure.

Also, D and P both want to delay the retrial till April. Judge will look at that.



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Cousin Dupree said:
There is a new prosecutor on the case. He noticed that Karen made a call to her mother at 1:30a.m. on the day she allegedly hit John. The call was never answered. It was the only call to her parents before John's body was discovered. He wants her parent's phone records to see how many times Karen called her parents at 1:30a.m. before.

Turtle boy's phone automatically deletes messages after thirty days, and the prosecutor finds that problematic. He seems to suggest that this was done on purpose. Well, my phone deletes things after 30 days. So why is that suspicious?
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many apps can be set to auto delete after so much time. I have several set to do that.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
I think so, but on my phone right now, the oldest text I have is from September 26, 2018. That would be very shortly after I got this phone. (I didn't realize it was that old.) So my phone doesn't delete texts. If Turtle Boy set his to delete after thirty days, it's odd. However, it's nobodies business if he chooses to do that or not.
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He might have it set that way to save space on his phone, especially if things are backed up in the cloud. If he has iphone, it auto backs up to the cloud. Mine just save to the phone itself. Providers can't see what you actually text. just that you texted somebody at a particular time.
 
Tresir said:
KR speaks after the hearing for a few seconds. She should go on the stand if she has anything to say. Its only short and is at 42 seconds in. At about 1.50 there is a still of JM where he was found so i screenshot it. Link and screenshot both below.

The screenshot is not that good if someone wants to try and get a clearer one. My phone is on its last legs, a bit like me. It looks to me like where they are looking is at a road driveway but i am not that sure.

Also, D and P both want to delay the retrial till April. Judge will look at that.



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You know how many defendants that refuse to get on the stand do make statements? Nearly every single one in a high profile case.
 
Guess Who said:
You know how many defendants that refuse to get on the stand do make statements? Nearly every single one in a high profile case.
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Well if they do it then they should forfeit that right. You should not be able to blab to the news and then refuse to take the stand.
 
Tresir said:
Well if they do it then they should forfeit that right. You should not be able to blab to the news and then refuse to take the stand.
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That's why a lot of judges place a gag order on people.
We also have a freedom of speech right guaranteed by our Constitution, so minus a gag order, they have the right to speak to whomever they wish.a gag order would include both sides, too
 
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