Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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There is no testimony she continued drinking back at the house. Also her BAC would not have reduced as it did if she continued drinking. You cannot just make facts up based on how people you know act. She was worrying why she couldnt get hold of him. I think she suspected she had hit him. I don't believe it was deliberate but were the actions of a drunken driver.
here is no testimony that she didn't either, is there?
Her bac at the time of the incident would have been LOWER if she had continued to drink. Her continuing to drink would RAISE her bac. There is no evidence that she was ever asked when her last drink was before or after this was drawn. They did not follow legal protocol in the testing of her blood either. Otherwise, they would have charged her with dui at the time, wouldn't they? They legally couldn't because they had no proof she was drunk at the time. They would have arrested her on the spot if they did.
 
Based on the witnesses saying he did not go in the house. Is your position that everyone in the house was lying ?
I think it's more possible that they are, otherwise why would every one of them manipulate data on their phones and computers that night. Every. Single. One. That is lying all by itself, so yes, I do believe that they did.
 
If she had really uttered those words and they had actual proof that she was that drunk at the time and they actually believed she killed their fellow officer, there is no chance that they wouldn't have not arrested her at that time for dui.
 
That's what the prosecution's expert said. The defense's expert disputed that. Guess what, I do not believe much of anything any of the prosecutions experts said after Trooper Paul and then the manufactured video and the lack of proper documentation of the evidence that was presented. Also where did that clear glass come from that they supposedly found laying on her bumper that did not match that other glass that was supposedly found on it?

A rear bumper from any car would have also hit him if he was actually got hit from the back of a car. Where are those injuries. The dna found on her car was TOUCH dna. There was no tissue, fibers or blood found anywhere on anything. What did he hit is head on? There is nothing but flat yard between the street and where he was found and where they say the pieces of the taillight were found. You don't get an injury like that from hitting the grass.
The car may not have caused any injuries - depending when and where the impact happened it could have just knocked him backwards. In the autopsy photo, his right hand had bruising on the back which could have been hit by the bumper and caused the touch DNA.

The snow and the leaf blower probably contaminated evidence.

I've already said what i think happened re the head wound.
 
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If she had really uttered those words and they had actual proof that she was that drunk at the time and they actually believed she killed their fellow officer, there is no chance that they wouldn't have not arrested her at that time for dui.
Apparently they were worried about her mental health which is why she got checked by the hospital i believe.
I think it's more possible that they are, otherwise why would every one of them manipulate data on their phones and computers that night. Every. Single. One. That is lying all by itself, so yes, I do believe that they did.
It wasnt every single one because some no longer had the phones and had got new ones.
 
The car may not have caused any injuries - depending when and where the impact happened it could have just knocked him backwards.

The snow and the leaf blower probably contaminated evidence.

I've already said what i think happened.
How would being hit by a car, enough to send you flying 10ish feet away, not leave a mark? No way

If it just "knocked him backwards" how did it shatter the plastic taillight in 40+ pieces, give him the head injury, and not leave any marks? Bumping him and just sending him back wouldn't shatter the taillight into 40 pieces. A snowblower did not remove any tissue or blood from 40+ pieces.
 
Apparently they were worried about her mental health which is why she got checked by the hospital i believe.

It wasnt every single one because some no longer had the phones and had got new ones.
They still did not charge her with DUI at any point in time. That only means that they did not have actual evidence that she was actually over the limit at the time after she was released.

It was every single one. They got rid of their phones conveniently right after they were told they needed looked at.
 
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here is no testimony that she didn't either, is there?
Her bac at the time of the incident would have been LOWER if she had continued to drink. Her continuing to drink would RAISE her bac. There is no evidence that she was ever asked when her last drink was before or after this was drawn. They did not follow legal protocol in the testing of her blood either. Otherwise, they would have charged her with dui at the time, wouldn't they? They legally couldn't because they had no proof she was drunk at the time. They would have arrested her on the spot if they did.
I am pretty sure she was not alone after she got back to the house because the niece and nephew were there and did not testify to any continued drinking. But maybe you have evidence of that. She then called friends to see where he was, then they went back to the scene. Still no evidence of her continued drinking. She tried to resuscitate and warm up JO and she went to the hospital for mental assessment as she was hysterical. They finally tested her BAC at 9am.
 
How would being hit by a car, enough to send you flying 10ish feet away, not leave a mark? No way

If it just "knocked him backwards" how did it shatter the plastic taillight in 40+ pieces, give him the head injury, and not leave any marks? Bumping him and just sending him back wouldn't shatter the taillight into 40 pieces. A snowblower did not remove any tissue or blood from 40+ pieces.
Where are you getting he flew 10 feet back? It was shown the tailight was previously cracked when she backed out earlier in the evening and hit JO's car. The later impact with JO then made the pieces fall out at the Alperts. I have already stated how i think he got the head injury.
 
They still did not charge her with DUI at any point in time. That only means that they did not have actual evidence that she was actually over the limit at the time after she was released.

It was every single one. They got rid of their phones conveniently right after they were told they needed looked at.
I thought you said they manipulated data on their phones. Now you are saying all of them got rid of their phones. Which is it?
 
If she had really uttered those words and they had actual proof that she was that drunk at the time and they actually believed she killed their fellow officer, there is no chance that they wouldn't have not arrested her at that time for dui.
I don't think at the time any first responders who attended the incident knew what had happened. They just responded and got JO to hospital as quickly as possible. KR wasn't driving at that point but was a passenger.
 
I don't think this has been posted has it?




An attorney for Karen Read has petitioned the highest court in Massachusetts seeking the dismissal of two charges, including murder, that she faces in the death of her Boston police officer boyfriend.

Read is accused of ramming into John O’Keefe with her SUV and leaving him for dead in a snowstorm in January 2022. Read’s attorneys argue she is being framed and that someone else is responsible for O’Keefe’s death.

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FILE — Karen Read departs Norfolk Superior Court following a day of jury selection in her trial, Wednesday, April 17, 2024, in Dedham, Mass. (AP Photo/Steven Senne, File)


The brief filed Tuesday to the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court argues that trying her again on charges of second-degree murder and leaving the scene would be unconstitutional double jeopardy. A judge last summer declared a mistrial after jurors couldn’t reach an agreement on her case.

The defense attorneys said five jurors came forward after her mistrial, saying they were deadlocked only on a manslaughter count and had agreed without telling the judge that she wasn’t guilty on the other counts.

MORE | New prosecutor will step into Karen Read murder trial

In August, a judge ruled that Read could be retried on those charges, and a new trial was set for January. “Where there was no verdict announced in open court here, retrial of the defendant does not violate the principle of double jeopardy,” the judge, Beverly Cannone, said in her ruling.

But Read’s attorney, Martin Weinberg, challenged the decision in his brief, arguing it was wrong to suggest that a double jeopardy challenge couldn’t be successfully mounted—even if all 12 jurors attested to a decision to acquit Read on those two charges.

“Surely, that cannot be the law. Indeed, it must not be the law,” Weinberg wrote.

“And, in the context of this highly publicized case, it strains credulity to suggest that, if the unequivocal statements of five jurors quoted above did not, in fact, represent the unanimous view of all 12, the remaining jurors would allow the inaccuracy to go uncorrected,” he wrote. “Instead, they would predictably have notified the Commonwealth or the court of their own recollection.”

The Norfolk District Attorney’s Office has until Oct. 16 to file its response.

Prosecutors said Read, a former adjunct professor at Bentley College, and O’Keefe, a 16-year member of the Boston police, had been drinking heavily before she dropped him off at a party at the home of Brian Albert, a fellow Boston officer. They said she hit him with her SUV before driving away. An autopsy found O’Keefe had died of hypothermia and blunt force trauma.

The defense portrayed Read as the victim, saying O’Keefe was actually killed inside Albert’s home and then dragged outside. They argued that investigators focused on Read because she was a “convenient outsider” who saved them from having to consider law enforcement officers as suspects.

The lead investigator on the case, State Trooper Michael Proctor, was relieved of duty after the trial revealed he’d sent vulgar texts to colleagues and family, calling Read a “whack job” and telling his sister he wished Read would “kill herself.” He said that was a figure of speech and that his emotions had gotten the better of him.

Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik, another state witness who was Proctor’s supervisor, also lost vacation days for failing to reprimand Proctor for his offensive texts, according to The Boston Globe. Canton Police Det. Kevin Albert, the brother of Brian Albert, also was reprimanded for drinking on the job with Proctor — which came up during the Read trial, the newspaper reported.

In its brief, the defense also argued that the judge abruptly announced the mistrial in court without first asking each juror to confirm their conclusions about each count.

Prosecutors had urged the judge to dismiss an “unsubstantiated but sensational post-trial claim” based on “hearsay, conjecture and legally inappropriate reliance as to the substance of jury deliberations.”

Assistant District Attorney Adam Lally argued that the jury never indicated they had reached a verdict on any of the charges, were given clear instructions on how to reach a verdict, and that the defense had ample opportunity to object to a mistrial declaration.
 
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I know that is what a lot of people think but i dont know that there is any evidence for that. If you think that, what is your evidence for it and for his head injury and how did he get on the front lawn?

The evidence he entered the house is the same type of evidence that proved Murdaugh wasn't in his house resting, but showed he had walked to the stables. I have no idea why it's looked at as being unreliable in this case.
 
The evidence he entered the house is the same type of evidence that proved Murdaugh wasn't in his house resting, but showed he had walked to the stables. I have no idea why it's looked at as being unreliable in this case.
Murdaugh was also actually caught speaking on a video at the stables which is what actually did it for him.

In this case there are many witnesses who ALL contradict JO went in the house at all. So the actual witness evidence is probably more conclusive proof he did not enter the house than a step application on a phone. A swinging arm can be mistaken for steps on some applications.

Also, all those party witnesses would all have to be colluding and lying, including Jen McCabe, which i do not think is feasible.
 
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If you imagine JO's arm was bent up holding a glass then the marks on his arm appear to line up between the top and the bottom - as if his arm scraped against something, like maybe the broken tail light, when he was reversed into by the vehicle.
 
The evidence he entered the house is the same type of evidence that proved Murdaugh wasn't in his house resting, but showed he had walked to the stables. I have no idea why it's looked at as being unreliable in this case.
And we might know without a doubt if he was in there or not if they simply went inside... You know, like they would do in any other case. Investigation 101. Another reason to doubt what they say.
 
And we might know without a doubt if he was in there or not if they simply went inside... You know, like they would do in any other case. Investigation 101. Another reason to doubt what they say.
They interviewed everyone who was inside and they gave evidence. So are you saying they all lied under oath?

Colin Alpert's texts also show he left even before JO was dropped off.
 
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