Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 

[GrandmaBear]

OOOOHHHHHH!!! This is getting good. I hope they root out a lot of bad apples and expose the corruption that I think is in a lot more police forces than we think.

I'll agree with you on a lot of abuse of power goes on but it certainly isn't just in police forces by a long shot. I think though it is moe often abused for the sake of self and those they know and doesn't necessarily compute to they have any problem at all prosecuting someone else who truly did wrong. I've said I am I total agreement with investigation as to wrongdoing and calling such out, I mean the things I could tell of what I've seen through the years by our own if I was in trouble I'd use it too I suppose--but it doesn't mean she's innocent.

It is though if anything a good show to those who hold positions of power to keep their sh*t and noses clean because look what it can cause, PERHAPS Karen really did hit her bf and you know it but because your sh*t stinks the case is at risk. I don't agree with dirty and there's dirty here but I'm not convinced she did not hit him and possibly intentionally.

It isn't said to argue, it is where I lean with the smoke cleared. I am totally open to a mind change should facts come about that change it.

Some call others conspiracy theorists when they buy into the biggest ones themselves. This would take a big one and a lot to explain an it's a bit much.

But it is just my opinion. And I think case discussion is far better than no interest.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I'll agree with you on a lot of abuse of power goes on but it certainly isn't just in police forces by a long shot. I think though it is moe often abused for the sake of self and those they know and doesn't necessarily compute to they have any problem at all prosecuting someone else who truly did wrong. I've said I am I total agreement with investigation as to wrongdoing and calling such out, I mean the things I could tell of what I've seen through the years by our own if I was in trouble I'd use it too I suppose--but it doesn't mean she's innocent.

It is though if anything a good show to those who hold positions of power to keep their sh*t and noses clean because look what it can cause, PERHAPS Karen really did hit her bf and you know it but because your sh*t stinks the case is at risk. I don't agree with dirty and there's dirty here but I'm not convinced she did not hit him and possibly intentionally.

It isn't said to argue, it is where I lean with the smoke cleared. I am totally open to a mind change should facts come about that change it.

Some call others conspiracy theorists when they buy into the biggest ones themselves. This would take a big one and a lot to explain an it's a bit much.

But it is just my opinion. And I think case discussion is far better than no interest.

The FBI said there is no way the injuries on the deceased came as part of being hit by a car.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The FBI said there is no way the injuries on the deceased came as part of being hit by a car.

Okay then. I've heard that but not seen it myself and because of that, I don't assume but I will take the word of others for it. So they should take over and put and end to this then.

 

[GrandmaBear]

No politics or p*ssing matches going on in this case right?

State v fed etc.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Howie Carr's recent take on this case. It is rather blunt. (Boston area reporter) Fairly long article.

Howie Carr: Karen Read case new trooper curveball

the case against Karen Read was unraveling before Tuesday. But that day, parts of the sealed feds’ report concerning possible prosecutorial abuse were put into the record. It was put together by th…

www.bostonherald.com

By HOWIE CARR | howard.carr@medianewsgroup.com | Boston Herald
March 15, 2024 at 6:06 a.m.

Wow! That dude is really going off. He made a few inside jokes that I didn't get. Probably because I'm not from Boston. It seems the Boston PD has a history of doing things illegal and then standing up for each other by using one scapegoat to get the others ignored.

I wonder how deep the FBI case is digging. I understand why this writer thinks the FBI is severely corrupt after their involvement with Whitey Bulger. However, these guys probably aren't as corrupt. I put more faith in FBI agents than I do local law enforcement.

Here in Rochester about a ten years ago or so, the police pulled over a car with an African American driving. A woman came out onto her front lawn and began recording it. A cop came over and started telling her she couldn't record.... AHHHHHH... Just watch this:

 

[GrandmaBear]

While most think the F B I is going to save all from all and are the best of the best, they are just people and a product of whatever rule and administration. Maybe not all but most and that's a given.

On top of that nowadays they probably have a ton of agents who are from the now multiple generations who say these ones and those ones.

Didn't read or look at the link, just talking generally.

And I wouldn't assume more trustworthy than local LE either. Corruption gets worse with the higher and more power and feeling of power and invincibility, which is why this world will never get much better. And then there's the dumbing down.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

 

[Summer_Breeze]

Karen Reed back in court for hearing in Canton murder case

Karen Read is back in court Wednesday afternoon as the date of her murder trial draws closer.

www.wwlp.com

by: Emma McCorkindale
Posted: Mar 20, 2024 / 12:26 PM EDT
Updated: Mar 20, 2024 / 12:26 PM EDT

BOSTON (WWLP) – Karen Read is back in court Wednesday afternoon as the date of her murder trial draws closer.

Read is accused of killing her Boston police officer boyfriend, John O’Keefe in Canton back in 2022. On March 12th, her attorneys argued that the case should be dismissed, and Norfolk DA Michael Morrissey should be disqualified from the case.

The judge has not yet ruled on those motions and the trial is set to begin on April 16th.

Documents say that some of O’Keefe’s hair and pieces of the glass from the drink he was carrying were found stuck under Read’s SUV.

Aidan Kearney, the controversial blogger known as ‘Turtleboy’ was indicted on two new charges last week, including intimidating witnesses and investigators. He has been blogging and investigating alternate theories about the murder of O’Keefe and the second-degree murder case against O’Keefe’s girlfriend, which is Read.

 

[kdg411]

The hearing was very enlightening imo.

 

[Summer_Breeze]

Judge in Karen Read murder trial denies motion to dismiss, trial set to start April 16

The judge in the Karen Read murder case denied a defense motion to dismiss the case and said the trial will begin as planned in April.

www.cbsnews.com

By Matt Schooley
Updated on: March 26, 2024 / 9:06 PM EDT / CBS Boston

DEDHAM – The judge in the Karen Read murder case denied a defense motion to dismiss the case on Tuesday and said the trial will begin as planned in April. Read is charged with killing her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, in January 2022.

Read has pleaded not guilty in the second-degree murder case. Her defense team has argued in court that she is being framed and is the victim of a coverup by law enforcement.

Judge rules on motion to dismiss​

Judge Beverly Cannone issued a 24-page ruling on Tuesday, shortly after a hearing for the case was held at Norfolk Superior Court in Dedham.

There has been a federal investigation into the case. Defense attorneys said in February documents provided by the U.S. Attorney's office "appears to be exculpatory." Prosecutors disagreed, saying it was "about 90% consistent" with what was already known."

What Karen Read's defense said in court​

During a hearing on Tuesday, Cannone noted that she had been waiting for an additional motion the defense had said it would be filing. Read's defense had said at a previous hearing that the new motion to dismiss and sanction the Norfolk District Attorney was due to "egregious governmental misconduct."

Cannone asked the defense team why that motion had not yet been submitted.

"Your honor, it was a strategic decision for us not to file that motion. It's not because it wasn't meritorious. It was a strategic decision," said Tanis Yannetti, one of Read's attorneys.

Trial scheduled for April 16​

Cannone wrote in her ruling after the hearing that she was denying the initial motion to dismiss due to "extensive evidence supporting the indictments."

The trial was scheduled to begin in March, but Cannone allowed requests from both the defense and prosecution to delay proceedings.

A jury trial is scheduled to begin on April 16 and is expected to last 5-6 weeks.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

For me the injuries on the body are just too unbelievable for a car hit. Scratches? I think this is an obvious case of corruption. I just hope the FBI can nail the real culprits.

 

[kdg411]

For me the injuries on the body are just too unbelievable for a car hit. Scratches? I think this is an obvious case of corruption. I just hope the FBI can nail the real culprits.

The defense will be able to call the FBI as a witness that will outweigh whatever specialist Morrissey or Lally provides.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Judge in Karen Read murder trial denies motion to dismiss, trial set to start April 16

The judge in the Karen Read murder case denied a defense motion to dismiss the case and said the trial will begin as planned in April.

www.cbsnews.com

By Matt Schooley
Updated on: March 26, 2024 / 9:06 PM EDT / CBS Boston

DEDHAM – The judge in the Karen Read murder case denied a defense motion to dismiss the case on Tuesday and said the trial will begin as planned in April. Read is charged with killing her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, in January 2022.

Read has pleaded not guilty in the second-degree murder case. Her defense team has argued in court that she is being framed and is the victim of a coverup by law enforcement.

Judge rules on motion to dismiss​

Judge Beverly Cannone issued a 24-page ruling on Tuesday, shortly after a hearing for the case was held at Norfolk Superior Court in Dedham.

There has been a federal investigation into the case. Defense attorneys said in February documents provided by the U.S. Attorney's office "appears to be exculpatory." Prosecutors disagreed, saying it was "about 90% consistent" with what was already known."

What Karen Read's defense said in court​

During a hearing on Tuesday, Cannone noted that she had been waiting for an additional motion the defense had said it would be filing. Read's defense had said at a previous hearing that the new motion to dismiss and sanction the Norfolk District Attorney was due to "egregious governmental misconduct."

Cannone asked the defense team why that motion had not yet been submitted.

"Your honor, it was a strategic decision for us not to file that motion. It's not because it wasn't meritorious. It was a strategic decision," said Tanis Yannetti, one of Read's attorneys.

Trial scheduled for April 16​

Cannone wrote in her ruling after the hearing that she was denying the initial motion to dismiss due to "extensive evidence supporting the indictments."

The trial was scheduled to begin in March, but Cannone allowed requests from both the defense and prosecution to delay proceedings.

A jury trial is scheduled to begin on April 16 and is expected to last 5-6 weeks.

So why didn't they file this other motion?

I guess for me I am waiting for trial and to see the extensive evidence they have. and not just the smoke and mirrors or even truth that comes from only one side, the defense. I've watched a fair amount on this and have heard it said there is plenty of evidence and wait for it.

It is just like in Delphi where the side that always complains about tainted jury pools and pretrial publicity is the one creating it while he other side stays silent. Are there not perfect people in the investigations, sure, but it doesn't mean that makes the defendant not guilty or there's no evidence.

Have they created some doubt? For sure if the public before trial was the jury and one side is shown to them.

Could I convict right now if I was a juror? I'm not sure but none of this was the trial, it was mostly all one side and a public relations blitz by the defense and defendant. If a juror you don't go by that. No evidence was shared, case shown, experts heard. To have an opinion as I always do outside of being a juror, yeah, that's one thing but for a jury verdict, that's different and I think it needs to be tried and all heard. Jmo.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

The defense will be able to call the FBI as a witness that will outweigh whatever specialist Morrissey or Lally provides.

Prosecution: So Mr. or Ms. Expert, tell us about her SUV.
Expert: Her SUV comes with an attack dog in the tail lights. So if they are broken the dog attacks whoever broke it. For some reason this isn't well known.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm honestly not sold strongly one way or the other but this is live. I haiven't went in and watched yet. But for anyone interested---.

 

[kdg411]

I'm honestly not sold strongly one way or the other but this is live. I haiven't went in and watched yet. But for anyone interested---.

I watched this with Attorney Melanie Little & learned a lot. Hope you are able to learn more about this case thru the lens of a lawyer.

 

[GrandmaBear]

That's what I am doing right now with the one I linked that is live. I am not SOLD either way and if a juror not sure what' I'd do depending on what came out at trial. I hiopei you understand that.

I'm certainly not positive. And I have watched a heck of a lot on it.

As you know I linked Melanie Little to beging with. Lawyer Lee is a bit more on both ways of looking at things but doesn't aovids the issues either.

 

[GrandmaBear]

That's what I am doing right now with the one I linked that is live. I am not SOLD either way and if a juror not sure what' I'd do depending on what came out at trial. I hiopei you understand that.

I'm certainly not positive. And I have watched a heck of a lot on it.

As you know I linked Melanie Little to beging with. Lawyer Lee is a bit more on both ways of looking at things but doesn't aovids the issues either.

She certainly isn't one way at all, she talks the law and likelihood etc. She definitely would be someone that you'd find your way but also fair the other.

Melanie is good but sold one way. This is more case dissection of how it could go either way. I did start watching now.

 

[kdg411]

I'm honestly not sold strongly one way or the other but this is live. I haiven't went in and watched yet. But for anyone interested---.

I watched this for another attorneys pov. In this video, she is reviewing the Judge's denial of motion to dismiss the indictment. The specific points of importance are witness statement inaccuracies, timeline created by witnesses before grand jury & state discovery material not being turned over. Also, reciprocal discovery does not have to be turned over until the state turns theirs over. The state argues this on a hair sample that they've had 2 years to prioritize. The lead investigator, Proctor, being under investigation & the FBI reconstruction are the key points I would focus on during the trial.

Based on this video alone I noticed this lawyer is focusing on one document only and not any other evidence that has been argued in prior motions. However, she came to the same legal conclusions Melanie Little has.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I'm honestly not sold strongly one way or the other but this is live. I haiven't went in and watched yet. But for anyone interested---.

I still believe it's a frame job. Taking so long to test the hair is just another hinky thing to me. The relationship between the lead investigator and the house owner is hinky too. The FBI case against the lead investigator is SUPER hinky.

O/T Her comments about Grand Juries and the way the prosecution handles their findings makes the burial of the Grand Juries findings in the Ramsey case even more hinky.