CA KARLIE GUSE: Missing from Chalfant Valley, Mono Co., CA - 13 October 2018 - Age 16

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  • Date of Birth 05/13/2002
  • Age 16 years old
  • Height and Weight 5'7, 110 pounds
  • Clothing/Jewelry Description A white t-shirt, gray sweatpants or jeans, and Vans shoes.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics Caucasian female. Blonde hair, blue eyes. Karlie's left nostril is pierced.

Karlie was last seen walking towards Highway 6 after leaving her residence in the White Mountain Estates area of Chalfant, California on October 13, 2018. Her stepmother saw her lying awake at 5:48 a.m., and went to sleep in the same room. Between 7:15 and 7:30 a.m., she woke up, and realized Karlie was gone.

There were no indications of forced entry to the home. She left all her belongings behind, including her cellular phone, eyeglasses and money, and has never been heard from again.

The night before her disappearance, Karlie came home after an evening out with friends and admitted to her parents that she had smoked marijuana. She seemed anxious and paranoid, and in her final text to her boyfriend she said the marijuana had been laced. It's possible she was still disoriented from the effects of the drug at the time she went missing.

Karlie and her father and stepmother had only recently moved to Chalfant, and she has relatives in Yerington, Nevada, 160 miles away. Her biological mother fears she may have had an overdose on the night of her disappearance, while her stepmother says she thinks Karlie was abducted.

Her case is being investigated as a simple missing person due to lack of evidence of a crime.


 
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Two people from his household or another one? And did the two people see her at the same time?

So this all comes from stepmom? Not saying it isn't true, and the witnesses didn't say this, just saying you say with each witness it is stepmom who said so per your post.

I don't find looking back at them paranoid. She is a teen girl and by their own admission they are "watching her" and so she kept looking back. I'd watch my back too if someone was "watching me" and continuing to as I walked and especially if every time I looked back they still were. "As they watched her" I am just going by the words you said.

She could have been looking back just to see if ANYONE was coming from their home, down the road or from her home, I'd need more details of if she was looking only at them. So is this three witnesses or two? Same home as the guy or a different home with two more?

I haven't even accepted she was paranoid at this moment as in drug induced, etc. paranoia. She'd been home for hours, and stepmom per her account fell asleep and so things must have been calm at that point.

I'm not arguing with you, I just don't have any reason that I can find to believe most of any of this or what is "thought" when most of it comes back to the same source. Can the neighbors say she was paranoid? I don't think so. Was she running and looking back and all over the place? I don't think I've ever heard that. Or darting into the woods or off the road for cover? Never heard that. Since people think she might have made it to the highway it sounds like someone just headed down the road to me and maybe wanting to get away from home or from someone or something. That's not necessarily paranoia.

I don't know. There's so much here and yet so little and none of it adds up imo.

I think I've asked at least five times in the last week or two what Karlie's mom thinks of stepmom and/or of what happened and no one has answered me. They answer other parts of the same posts but not that question.

What I do know that seems the most prevalent in this whole thing is that from the minute she was picked up to when she disappeared, stepmom is dominant in the story. I'm not saying she did anything and don't know but she is prevalent and was the one with the most contact. It is pretty convenient she fell asleep allegedly. She picked her up. She recorded her. She stayed with her. She slept. Karlie disappeared. She lied. She, she, she...

What is light like in this area of Cali at 6:30 in October of that year? And at what distance were these witnesses. I only recall one that seemed front and center.

Again as I've said before even if it was her, it does not mean someone did not catch up with her. But I still haven't left the house.
 
So for the first time in almost exactly a year I went and got a hair cut and highlights. Man it feels good, my hair was sooooo long which I liked but it badly needed several inches off of ends. And it was looking really washed out. I'm back to shoulder length which I am fine with also and it will be long again before I get back for the next one I'm sure. I went also for a clarifying treatment due to the effects of the lousy water here.

I sidetrack though. At the salon they had a People Magazine and since I had a few things done with minutes of waiting while drying, etc. in between, I started to read it. I looked at the few celebrity bits in the first pages and then hit the Table of Contents. I skimmed it to see what was in it as I knew I wasn't going to be able to read the entire thing. I never in my life have bought a People nor would I ever but I will on occasion read one if in a waiting room or something.

I was going to read about Harry and Meghan but then I saw there was an article about Karlie Guse and the case. Even though I figured nothing new would be in it and it wasn't what I picked it up for to read, I decided to go to it first just to see. Well most of it was the summary and basic info but it refreshed me that Karlie's mom was on Dr. Phil and did point the finger and thought it was an overdose, etc. That wasn't new to me but I had forgotten the details and the Dr. Phil part and that's why I kept asking here, I knew or though her mother blamed stepmom, etc. but I couldn't quite recall. So that answered that.

But then near the end of a short two page story it said cops are investigating a lead where someone saw her at a party in 2021. It also said it sounded like due to that a vehicle was impounded and evidence from it is being collected or it is being searched for evidence. Did we KNOW this or has it been posted and I forgot?

My stylist was coming and so I flipped to the front to check for a date and it was from this month, August of 2023. I did read it all and finish and that's the only article I ended up reading in the magazine as I never got another chance at it.

I am happy with my hair cut and highlights though :D
 
It also didn't make any big splash with me nor did it seem to want to, the article. It was at the end of it.

Personally I find it unlikely but who knows...

It didn't go into a lot of detail on the case overall just the possible bad drugs but pointed out it was tested and wasn't laced, that three neighbors saw a girl, that Melissa fell asleep woke up and she was gone, etc. That suspicion turned to the stepmom at a point.
 
It also didn't make any big splash with me nor did it seem to want to, the article. It was at the end of it.

Personally I find it unlikely but who knows...

It didn't go into a lot of detail on the case overall just the possible bad drugs but pointed out it was tested and wasn't laced, that three neighbors saw a girl, that Melissa fell asleep woke up and she was gone, etc. That suspicion turned to the stepmom at a point.
They need to word it that THOSE drugs were tested. Who's to say that was ALL the drugs that were there? How about what ever was already ingested, smoked, etc? Kind of hard to test what is not there. Are they also taking a bunch of teens words that what they tested were the only drugs present that night? Really???
 
They need to word it that THOSE drugs were tested. Who's to say that was ALL the drugs that were there? How about what ever was already ingested, smoked, etc? Kind of hard to test what is not there. Are they also taking a bunch of teens words that what they tested were the only drugs present that night? Really???
I don't disagree, every time I read it I wonder how they can know they tested what she had or had been given, etc. was THAT one.

So why does it keep getting said in articles and reports when it means little?

I also though think the same of whether she was messed up or not and WHEN, how bad, for how long, etc...

Just about everything in this case can be torn apart and is not KNOWN imo.
 
They need to word it that THOSE drugs were tested. Who's to say that was ALL the drugs that were there? How about what ever was already ingested, smoked, etc? Kind of hard to test what is not there. Are they also taking a bunch of teens words that what they tested were the only drugs present that night? Really???
I think they just never found a reason not to take their word.
Personally, I think it was useless to test the marijuana in the first place since no one else experienced a psychotic episode.
 
I think they just never found a reason not to take their word.
Personally, I think it was useless to test the marijuana in the first place since no one else experienced a psychotic episode.
I have issues with all of that too. Meaning I agree with you believe it or not. Unless she was specifically targeted (and she could have been but no reason to think so either), I kind of doubt the entire story of her being that messed up other than maybe with pot. Was there alcohol? Maybe that as well if so.

Sometimes I wonder if she even came home with stepmom or got there. I guess I don't recall if there is actual evidence of that. I know dad talks of her being there so I accept she was for the most part. But is there proof other than them saying so? But I do not and have not come to the conclusion she ever left that house on her own. Nothing convinces me of that yet. And if she did, I am not convinced she was not caught up with.

I need to listen fresh to stepmom's recording of that. Doubt I will get time.

I don't expect anyone to but if anyone is willing or has a chance to find it and drop a link here, I'd sure appreciate it.

That too was referred to in the People article, that stepmom did not want it released. She gave reasons for that of course...
 
I think they just never found a reason not to take their word.
Personally, I think it was useless to test the marijuana in the first place since no one else experienced a psychotic episode.
Exactly! Pills disappear after taking them, too if you don't have access to the person that might have taken them. No telling if she even got them (if they exist, that is) and if her friends were even aware she had them, if that's what happened. I am NOT saying she took pills. Just a likely, possible explanation of events.
 
Exactly! Pills disappear after taking them, too if you don't have access to the person that might have taken them. No telling if she even got them (if they exist, that is) and if her friends were even aware she had them, if that's what happened. I am NOT saying she took pills. Just a likely, possible explanation of events.
That's one explanation that crosses my mind as well. So does it cross my mind such could have happened at home and when things maybe just seemed so bad... Possibly in trouble, grounded, being watched, lectured, etc.

I am NOT saying that IS whatr happened but both possibilities cross my mind as well as others.
 
Exactly! Pills disappear after taking them, too if you don't have access to the person that might have taken them. No telling if she even got them (if they exist, that is) and if her friends were even aware she had them, if that's what happened. I am NOT saying she took pills. Just a likely, possible explanation of events.
I don't think it's likely, not because there's no evidence that she didn't but because there's info re prior behaviors that indicates there was a mental health issue.
 

Case of missing California teen leads to Nevada​

Five years after teenager Karlie Gusé disappeared from alongside U.S. Highway 6 in eastern California, authorities are searching for clues in Tonopah.

In a recent episode of “People Magazine Investigates,” Jason Pelichowski, an investigator with the sheriff’s office in Mono County, California, said that in March 2021, his office received a call from a witness who claimed to have seen Karlie at a party in Tonopah.

Tonopah, a historic mining town and the county seat of sparsely populated Nye County, is about 100 miles away from Karlie’s home in Chalfant Valley.

Pelichowski did not disclose the witness’s name or say when the sighting of Karlie allegedly occurred.

But he did say that authorities located a vehicle that may have been used to pick up Karlie from alongside Highway 6 and transport her to Tonopah.

Mono County Sheriff Ingrid Braun confirmed this month that the Tonopah lead is one of the angles “actively being investigated” by her office and the FBI.



One of the witnesses, Richard Eddy, who lived near the Gusé home, told the Review-Journal in 2018 that around daybreak on Oct, 13, he noticed a tall, slender female with long hair walk by, holding a piece of paper in her hand.

“She was looking up, looking around at the sky,” he said.

A second witness, Kenneth Dutton, a schoolteacher who lived a few doors farther down, told the Review-Journal in 2019 that he was out in his driveway when Karlie walked by, holding a piece of paper, headed in the direction of Highway 6.

“I know her,” he said. “I saw her.”

The Sheriff’s Office said a third eyewitness, who has not been publicly identified, spotted a girl fitting Karlie’s description standing in the sagebrush near Highway 6.

This was the same area where tracking dogs lost Karlie’s scent.
 

Case of missing California teen leads to Nevada​

Five years after teenager Karlie Gusé disappeared from alongside U.S. Highway 6 in eastern California, authorities are searching for clues in Tonopah.

In a recent episode of “People Magazine Investigates,” Jason Pelichowski, an investigator with the sheriff’s office in Mono County, California, said that in March 2021, his office received a call from a witness who claimed to have seen Karlie at a party in Tonopah.

Tonopah, a historic mining town and the county seat of sparsely populated Nye County, is about 100 miles away from Karlie’s home in Chalfant Valley.

Pelichowski did not disclose the witness’s name or say when the sighting of Karlie allegedly occurred.

But he did say that authorities located a vehicle that may have been used to pick up Karlie from alongside Highway 6 and transport her to Tonopah.

Mono County Sheriff Ingrid Braun confirmed this month that the Tonopah lead is one of the angles “actively being investigated” by her office and the FBI.



One of the witnesses, Richard Eddy, who lived near the Gusé home, told the Review-Journal in 2018 that around daybreak on Oct, 13, he noticed a tall, slender female with long hair walk by, holding a piece of paper in her hand.

“She was looking up, looking around at the sky,” he said.

A second witness, Kenneth Dutton, a schoolteacher who lived a few doors farther down, told the Review-Journal in 2019 that he was out in his driveway when Karlie walked by, holding a piece of paper, headed in the direction of Highway 6.

“I know her,” he said. “I saw her.”

The Sheriff’s Office said a third eyewitness, who has not been publicly identified, spotted a girl fitting Karlie’s description standing in the sagebrush near Highway 6.

This was the same area where tracking dogs lost Karlie’s scent.
So maybe she was picked up after all?
 
Kind of puts a kink the the dad's story of it being her footprints on a mountain, doesn't it? That story was so bogus. I am far more inclined to believe this version.
Footprints in the desert can last a lot longer than footprints in other areas. Like Oregon! Terrain changes often around here. Terrain in the Bishop area is very slow to change, without a freak rainstorm once in awhile. The witness of "footprints" never did impress me very much.
 
Footprints in the desert can last a lot longer than footprints in other areas. Like Oregon! Terrain changes often around here. Terrain in the Bishop area is very slow to change, without a freak rainstorm once in awhile. The witness of "footprints" never did impress me very much.
But when was that footprint put there and what are the chances it was hers?...if it ever existed. That story was just too bizarre for me.
 
I have never bought the footprints nor bought a stranger pick up or abduction. I was at home, feeling the whole truth wasn't being told, and other than that the only thing I could imagine or accept is that she had someone she knew or reached pick her up. This could fit with that.

But then WHY would you never in all these years not contact your mother? Even if you didn't want to contact dad and stepmom? I guess once she got away and depending on what happened, that could play in AND she could still have ended up dead. This is claimed to be 2021...Any now adult who ever has a lucid moment or even if not and under someone's control could find a way in a rare moment to let someone know they are okay. And don't want to come home. Hard to say and maybe she was trusting or met up with someone who was bad news....

Interesting there is a vehicle they are looking at..

However, I am very ready also to hear this is a bust.

I guess we will see. Or will we... Praying it leads to her and she is alive.
 
But when was that footprint put there and what are the chances it was hers?...if it ever existed. That story was just too bizarre for me.
What's bizarre about it? I don't know the story for myself, only what others here have commented/concluded about it. I understand that the father believes he found her footprints somewhere up in the mountains but I don't see anything bizarre about that.
 

Case of missing California teen leads to Nevada​

Five years after teenager Karlie Gusé disappeared from alongside U.S. Highway 6 in eastern California, authorities are searching for clues in Tonopah.

In a recent episode of “People Magazine Investigates,” Jason Pelichowski, an investigator with the sheriff’s office in Mono County, California, said that in March 2021, his office received a call from a witness who claimed to have seen Karlie at a party in Tonopah.

Tonopah, a historic mining town and the county seat of sparsely populated Nye County, is about 100 miles away from Karlie’s home in Chalfant Valley.

Pelichowski did not disclose the witness’s name or say when the sighting of Karlie allegedly occurred.

But he did say that authorities located a vehicle that may have been used to pick up Karlie from alongside Highway 6 and transport her to Tonopah.

Mono County Sheriff Ingrid Braun confirmed this month that the Tonopah lead is one of the angles “actively being investigated” by her office and the FBI.



One of the witnesses, Richard Eddy, who lived near the Gusé home, told the Review-Journal in 2018 that around daybreak on Oct, 13, he noticed a tall, slender female with long hair walk by, holding a piece of paper in her hand.

“She was looking up, looking around at the sky,” he said.

A second witness, Kenneth Dutton, a schoolteacher who lived a few doors farther down, told the Review-Journal in 2019 that he was out in his driveway when Karlie walked by, holding a piece of paper, headed in the direction of Highway 6.

“I know her,” he said. “I saw her.”

The Sheriff’s Office said a third eyewitness, who has not been publicly identified, spotted a girl fitting Karlie’s description standing in the sagebrush near Highway 6.

This was the same area where tracking dogs lost Karlie’s scent.
That's the first I've heard about tracking dogs losing a scent, regardless, it's not info I hang my hat on since I've seen such indications fail miserably.
 
What's bizarre about it? I don't know the story for myself, only what others here have commented/concluded about it. I understand that the father believes he found her footprints somewhere up in the mountains but I don't see anything bizarre about that.
I find it bizarre as well and convenient, I don't have time to go into why right now. It would sure be unfortunate if it came back to bite them in the butt or put a kink in this case if it truly couldn't have been her because she had someone pick her up and if it truly wasn't them but they felt they needed something to take suspicion off of them.

Assuming of course this new lead even is fact or leads anywhere. If not, I'm back to the household and haven't left yet.
 
What's bizarre about it? I don't know the story for myself, only what others here have commented/concluded about it. I understand that the father believes he found her footprints somewhere up in the mountains but I don't see anything bizarre about that.
one lone foot print that was not near their house. I forget how far away it was, but not like it was right there. What about leading up to and beyond? How did he get to that one particular spot of all the spots possible? I do feel like if he did actually find a footprint, he wants so badly to believe it's hers, but I'm not convinced one little bit. I do believe it was his glimmer of hope though
 

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