LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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Nutshell:

Kegan Kline was catfishing Libby under an Anthony Shots profile. He was "making plans" to meet her the day the girls were murdered.

In the course of the murder investigation, he was charged with dozens of counts of child pornography. He's in a maximum security prison now (he was convicted).

It appears several people were using the Anthony Shots profile he created. I dont think anyone else has been charged in relation to the Kline case, so it was rumor or I'm mistaken. :)

Which leads to wondering if RA had a burner phone, had access to that account, etc.

He lived in Peru, Indiana. We've now heard RA was visiting his mom in Peru that morning.

Kline would have never met Libby because in truth he is a fat, gross person. I doubt he could walk 20 feet without getting short of breath.
I'd add that the pic used on the profile was of a real male model, quite cute, and naturally the girls would be excited if he showed interest or it would be understandable anyhow.

I find ther KK thing so eeirly coincidental it's very hard to let go of and I haven't completely I think I've said recently as did you.

I'm not sure others having access was rumor either, LE questioned him extensively about his father OR anyone else having access to it and it seemed they were convinced someone else or others did for some reason.

RA going to Peru also seems uncanny, that very day. Would his mother lie for him... Or was she just ONE stop...

I don't recall everything about his interviews but I recall a LOT. I could talk of some of it but it wouldn't all relate to this case so I'll leave it.

I do think if the P or LE was able to connect him in any way to RA or RA to the drop box they'd be calling KK though and I don't believe they are, are they? The D supposedly is.

In a not humorous way, if KK had been the one to go meet the girls or kidnap them even, they might be alive today because as you say he'd have not had the breath to get across probably or the ambition BUT also because he'd have almost certainly have fallen through that old rickety thing at his weight...

RA looked very comfortable and familiar with that bridge and we know he was well familat with it over the years...

One last thing is it's difficult to believe though, and this relates only to KK, that he only had interest in pictures, etc. and never actually molested any child that we know of. I find that pretty hard to buy since there were so many he made contact with and that's just the ones we know of/heard of in the interviews, I'm sure there's tons more.
 
Well I read all of these and the last one particularly and News 8's Russell I'm not impressed with at all. She shouldn't be stating things as fact she does not know to be fact for one.

Why is the judge continuing to allow the defense to constantly TESTIFY rather than ask questions? Also why is she not STOPPING RA's and KA's testifying when likely neither will be and they are trying to through nods, actions, shaking of the head and more. Get on the STAND if you want to testify you are NOT to be doing that in the courtroom and they are doing it constantly.

I'm waiting for the confessions to family, and for the voice analyst and comparisons.

In my opinion in these interviews RA is lying through his teeth and realized as we all had by five years later that what he said in 2017 was a problem and that seeing the girls and his time frame was a DEFINITE problem. It's pretty clear throughout his lies. To me anyhow, imo.

I'm sure with this kind of stuff on today and some rest that Tom probably stuck the day out and so I haven't checked him yet, read these first, but intend to as I know he will have every question and answer and more accurate detail.

I don't know what the bit was about laughter in the courtroom but what a remark to put in her reporting but then not explain it, or by who, etc. Talk about sensationalism and b.s.

And honestly I thought her trying to draw and mimic RA's signature on the interview request was pretty dumb. Just report on it, don't try for forgery my dear.

Anyhow, at the content and at SOME of the reporting, not at anyone else or anything else. There WAS a lot of coverage in this one but that's all I'll say.

And you know, the have his confession to the warden in writing, his I'm sure, or they wouldn't be using it, and so all the similar confessions amongst way too many various people go to follow and make perfect sense as well as more to the warden orally.

I'm also waiting for the one with the "supposed" motive and crime scene detail...
 
Tom's notes are 45 pages long for today. Show is over three and a half hours. I don't usually get through all but eventually I do and I'm not to worried about finishing because I have a feeling I may not be as into listening to the defense but maybe I will with cross, who knows... I'll have time this time with my days off to finish those.

I just prefer every question and answer rather than reporters picking and choosing what they feel important and ignoring other things. They serve their purpose with my lack of time and others' lack of such too I'm sure, but my opinion formed after seeing Tom's and realizing how biased the reporting was. and how much left out of what was really going on on some days.

It's not being said as any kind of criticism at anyone other than the difference in the reporting and by whom, but I'm mainly saying it as I'll come in and share anything I hear that I feel I didn't see covered well so we have a fuller picture. he is going to fast be tired again imo but he will likely have another week in him as he did the first time let me hope...
 
Uhm did we know RA's mom does have a concussion, fell outside the courthouse on Saturday? Maybe some did because I don't read every link but I know I've not seen it mentioned. Also sounds like broke her nose.
 
Remember he didn't attend all day yesterday but found out there's a rumor or there was (unclear) a google search on Rick's home computer that someone after the October 13, 2022 interrogation. Rumor has it that KA may testify to say she did that and not RA...

He covers things like this because it is being talked of but gave no opinion on these rumors. RE RA's mom, that seems to have been confirmed recently and is not rumor.
 
He says right out today he did his best and not all are going to be direct quotes as he usually tries for and may have missed some but did his best, hand killing him, had no more than a granola bar a nice cop lady gave him. Then he's doing a live for 3.5 hours and needs to get some sleep and back in line.

This is so stinking ridiculous. As I also said the families should have the option of watching at HOME. But that's me just being a broken record about it so I'll stop.

I'm not going to give every byplay dont' worry. Dobut I'll make it far tonight as I'm tired too, I'd never make it through what he's doing though. Just waiting for him to get started and he's catchting up and telling of these other things first.
 
This is entirely from me, no one else. Just heard his birthdate and I thought aha, he is a Virgo... I'm not one bit surprised.

That is not a slam my dad was a Virgo not that I'd ever compare the two but certain traits with Rick seem exacerbated Virgo...

And don't anyone go thinking that I'm fully or totally believing in such but I have always found it interesting as I for years was able to peg people I knew or even had just met and talked to for an hour or so if talking about real stuff their sign and usually get it right. And mine has always fit me perfectly... There are some slight differences over time but mostly due to life experience and so I am not AS this or that any longer but always had been...

I just find it interesting that if I'd have had to guess that's the sign I would have guessed him...

Not trying to start a conversation on it lol.

On something more related, it's clear RA is lying about the phone he had at the time, number, etc. and not recalling...
 
I'd like to know when they really were living in Delphi because he worked at the Peru CVS and he refers to three different years of when he started at Delphi CVS... See Tom gives that detail...

Worked at CVS since 2013 but not in Dephi. Mentioned Peru. He then said Delphi was 2016, then he said 2017, then 2015.... This is about when at the job, but when they asked him how long he'd lived in Delphi imo he totally skirted a direct answer. Said most of his life in Mexico, IN, then Peru, and never really did answer how long lived in Delphi. Then he job came up and he gave three different years at different times it seems.

2017 were when the girls were killed for goodness sakes. HOW LONG had they lived there?

Maybe minor but seems odd to me. I can tell you with any house I owned and I've lived in several in my adult life, where I worked and if my kids were in school and what age in those years. Might take me a minute on the ages but not where I worked at any time in any home...Much LESS what town. This dancing to me with normal questions early on in the first interview I find quite odd.

Don't worry, my byplay is about to stop. I'm tired. and I want to focus on this and it's often another reason I wait and go back when I'm not.

Probably go do some cooking/life blog channels I watch for a bit before bed.

Oh but I do need to add RA's voice in this interview right off wasn't like OH MY that's him, but he says watch his notes and the interview continues of his observations and thoughts and it changes over his next pages where he definitely cannot rule him out and he certainly can think it may well be him... He is not to those next pages yet but has already said that...

And man there was one other thing I wanted to point out as well that I just went blank on...

And I just had it darn it...

Oh well it may come to me or not but was something I think all here like the voice would find interesting...

See I dont' have the focus I want right now..

But back to the voice which I did retain the thought of but then forgot my next one, I"m not ONE BIT surprised. As I've said many times, I've heard the convincing me 110 percent comparison BG IS RA and that is HIS voice and I heard it months and months ago... DEAD ON. Not just a possible.

His voice is going to be a thing here imo. A BIG thing and it may well have been one of the things he has been most worried about... Where he figured he was done for so the confessions...
 

That's not a guilty man. He figures out quickly they plan to pin it on him and gets pissed off.

The interviewer lies to him about the cops not being allowed to lie to him about the bullet casing.

Gull sustained the prosecutions objections. Which is no surprise.
 
Great question from a juror, asking how long will someone smear feces on themselves before you call in a mental health professional.
He was already under a MH professional though, wasn't he? Dr Wala? I think the prison facilities and jails have done well to prevent him killing himself over the last two years so he could actually be brought to trial.
 
That's not a guilty man. He figures out quickly they plan to pin it on him and gets pissed off.

The interviewer lies to him about the cops not being allowed to lie to him about the bullet casing.

Gull sustained the prosecutions objections. Which is no surprise.
It cannot be anyone else or he would have seen the other guy and the other witnesses would have seen two separate guys that day. They didnt.
 
How do you know that?
It's in all the testimony of the witnesses. Only one adult male was seen on the trails and bridge and RA has confessed it was him. This isn't rocket science.

BTW i am still awaiting an answer from you. See my posts 8465 and 8469. As i have answered your question, perhaps you could please answer mine?

I am posting this link about his confessions. I am trying to find more info from Wala's testimony to the jury but this is about her testimony in August.

 
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So they are presently going through all the confessions? I am a little behind so will have to catch up over the last couple of days.
 
That's not a guilty man. He figures out quickly they plan to pin it on him and gets pissed off.

The interviewer lies to him about the cops not being allowed to lie to him about the bullet casing.

Gull sustained the prosecutions objections. Which is no surprise.
When he talked to Dulini, he was forthcoming and mostly truthful all except the fact he was the murderer. I think he played it safe because he didn't know what they had and in case they could place his car, him, the time, etc. he gave basically the correct time, the correct parking are and so on. He was treated as just a town guy helping out Dulin had no suspicion of and so he was friendly. I'm sure he went home thinking they are stupid and coudln't believe his lucky stars.

He started pit the secpnd interview with the same act as it has worked for him the last time, and honestly as many a guilty person does at first. The minute he sensed it was serious, the lies commenced and hed' had five years to think about it, and perhaps he had a good guess it was serious even when he was being more friendly and when taken in, asked to come in, whatever. The times changed, couldn't recall exactly where he parked, etc. He knew he met with Dulin one and one and that Dulin had not recorded him. By now we all knew a lot more as did he and he made it so it coudlnt' have been him or tried to.

Tom's take was interesting and he leans towards guilt but is waiting to make up his mind and hasn't yet in the trial but in the morning he thought things towards his innocence but by afternoon his opinion changed completely in the other direction. I had not gotten far enough as to why.

Back to the interviews, he is lying in both of them and his indignant act of innocence is so obvious and a few things he says are not what someone innocent would say while trying to claim his innocence either.

Let's also not forget his saying it was over anyhow...

I'd add that for all she KNOWS he didn't do this, her claims since, his wife quickly believed he was the one who did it at the time.

I'm starting to think she'll wavei spousal privilege and testify possibly... And try to put it all on LE lying to her as well... However, the key thing she believed and said to RA was that his bullet was there, that she believed, and that was the TRUTH.

The two of them need to stop testifying to the jury in the courtroom with head shakes, nods, etc. Gull should be putting a stop to this. If RA is not going to take the stand then he needs to stop trying to talk without talking. Her as well. Even then they are NOT to be doing this. Nor er family members of the victims nor anyone else. And she needs to stop the D from freakign making statements of supposed fact (almost never is) instead of asking questions in proper form.

You see it your way and that's fine, to me yesterday was so clear to me that he IS the man. HE changed his story and became forgetful. Yet he says how he's thought of this for years, as in how close he was to the girls when this happened to them. That's kind of funny and a slip because he was trying to now claim he was gone by then... Doolin's tip and info may have been misplaced but the details were put down. And the Harvestore video matches the original time given, the remark about the girls match the original time given etc.

To me it is so clear and there's so much more I'm not going to try to recall right now and add but I'm not going to change your mind anyhow. "And you're not going to change mind.

All the things wow, PLUS the zinger and clincher is I've heard his voice match back when and Tom said it last night too and now it's been heard, a LOT. And ever since I heard it back when, and listened to it over and over and just couldn't get over the WHOA BOY, it's HIM, 100 percent, is a big one for me. However, so is what I've mentioned throughout of all of the other things and now so was yesterday.

My only concern is that the jury is getting it and that the P is showing what I have seen, what Tresir sees, etc.

The voice is going to be huge. And Tom was hearing it yesterday and I can only guess the jury was noticing it as well. I don't even know if they have a voice analyst lined up but I'm counting on it. Of COURSE you would and you would as well be playing comparisons.

There's of course all sorts of additional little things. Worried LE will see his websites visited... And make such fit. Huh?

The one phone missing is THE phone... So he gets rid of THE phone yet they have the number because Dulin called it to arrange a meeting AND it was given in his tip. Before you ask yet again why he came forward, that's been answered, he KNEW he was seen.

Now in the interview he tried to make it sound like he thought he had the phone he had at interview time, but then not sure, etc., etc... As if there is no missing phone.

It is a crying shame they didn't light right onto him five years ago because he'd have been nailed easily imo. They've had the bullet since then. He was on the trail. He saw the girls and thought one was babysitting younger ones.

You can ignore all of this and more but even though it was five years later, there's still a strong case here, very strong and the voice is yet to come. And I'd imagine the interviews of daughter and wife. Maybe even mom. AND bigger confessions, recorded ones, probably today.

The remark about Gull sustaining P's objection? Gull is letting the D get away with murder, forgive the poor pun. She's letting them do everything they are NOT to do. And letting RA and KA testifying while not testifying as well.

You know, I haven't entirely dismissed a KK connection and that's come up HERE at least again recently. Not as to being there or involved though.

RA had five years to clear evidence, he was well aware they hadn't found their "man" but boy if theyd' have been on him early on, I think computers, phones, etc. would be a different story.

HOWEVER they do have his number used at that time, or at least the "number" he called the tip in on and gave...Of course with that too, they're working five years later to even pick up phones in the area and times but we'll see...

There's plenty for me as it is, and the further confessions are just going to cement it.

This is no innocent man, he's the perp.

You now even little things like does he do any SM, he only responds to FB about that, not to whether he does ANY or any other sites, etc. and then worries about the sites they will find on his phone... EVEN five years later...

I could go on and on.

I get how you are seeing it and you certainly have the right to.

I just hope the jurors see beyond that to a fuller picture. Imo.

The P has ONE THING with a witness they failed to clear up that Tom keeps noting. They'd better watch and go back and clear it up. Don't know that it will be big but it was incorrect.

And I could be wrong and could be right but I think the P is going to end with some fairly big icing on the cake. Whether they do or not, I'm there and beyond there from where I started. He's the guy. the voice is going to be one. The further confessions. I mean these are for sures. I have a feeling though more phone may come in yet... Shall see I guess.

Gull is being very good to the D by the way. Too good. So that one can be given up on. She's given them leeway beyond what I've seen any judge do, and I think even the P is doing so and not objecting nearly as much as they could.

Well, when this one is over, kind of like Daybell, (which does have things left but has majorly quieted), they are two of the biggest here that people follow. And for some out there who have covered it for years too. Most have picked up some others along the way like Gray is on Soto and a handful of others.

There's going to be a void here imo for many or some. This one's been waited for for a darned long time. By people everywhere. And even here of course we all have others but this one is arguably one fo the biggest, and Daybell would be up there too, most info, most followed, etc.

This is going to be OVER. I wonder if anyone's thought of that? I sure have. Oh appeals will go on and so on but it will in essence be over.

Whatever will I do with my extra time? LOL. Can't keep up as I is but just trying to end on a more humorous although serious nnte too.

This dawned on me the second after saying that. Whatever the conclusion, it is one there will never be agreement on that it was the right conclusion. I honestly think most people out there see his guilt but news hasn't helped nor the leak and so on, because some see it otherwise because of the skewed stuff. And I'll even admit a few covered over recordings haven't helped either. So however it concludes, it will always have controversy imo at least by a few.

And that now reminds me do you now see that no interview of RA or recording was ever lost? None were. As we were telling you.

Have a good day emu. Keep up the good fight. No fight here, just don't agree respectfully.
 

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