LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]



Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]

Murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German - Wikipedia

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On Feb 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams & Liberty German were discovered in Delphi, #INDIANA. The suspect in their deaths is awaiting trial.

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant, though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." Even with a lot of media coverage, their murders remain unsolved.

www.crimewatchers.net

 

[Tresir]

Video 8 must have been his eating of his s*** and smearing it on the wall.

Video 9 must be him w***ing off.

How come even Mcleland was surprised. Haven't they all seen it already?

This is nothing compared to what he did to those girls and it doesn't make a bit of difference to how i think. He did it and it is sending him mad. I am glad.

 

[GrandmaBear]

and I am only guessing it was the nakedness thing, I wasn't really told what he has that is thought to be something no one else does.

I am full on back to a long week here in minutes but if I get a chance, may be a day or two, I will try to find that part if that's what it was about.

He is simply reporting all he can, unlike news.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Video 8 must have been his eating of his s*** and smearing it on the wall.

Video 9 must be him w***ing off.

How come even Mcleland was surprised. Haven't they all seen it already?

This is nothing compared to what he did to those girls and it doesn't make a bit of difference to how i think. He did it and it is sending him mad. I am glad.

hey he says he's a sex addict has had been for years. i'm sure cut off from it would have some effect.

Not to sound harsh but it makes no difference to me either.

He's hardly the first accused to do this kind of stuff although I doubt we always hear about it.

He's not insane. Sorry. And he's sitting there right now.

 

[Tresir]

hey he says he's a sex addict has had been for years. i'm sure cut off from it would have some effect.

Not to sound harsh but it makes no difference to me either.

He's hardly the first accused to do this kind of stuff although I doubt we always hear about it.

He's not insane. Sorry. And he's sitting there right now.

We had the IRA doing the dirty protests for years so it is nothing new. Having to watch it though (the jurors), hopefully they were warned beforehand.

 

[Tresir]

There is quite a lot on a Redditt thread talking about the sound of the gun being racked on the enhanced video. Link to that thread.

 

[Tresir]

He has all of his notes right in front of him. And unless I have him all wrong, Tom is way too straight laced to EVER pull something like that and has absolutely NO DESIRE to get in trouble. I have to chuckle at this thought. This was not IN one from today, it was from the other day. Yesterday or the 31st I believe. And now they are talking of showing some stuff today (not him, he won't be on until tonight) and it's pretty clear it is this stuff.

I am telling ALL that NEWS is NOT reporting all they can.

Lol tape recorder strapped. Had to chuckle.

He can't even read his own notes at times and missing more than a few questions and answers as well.

You know - like a spycam LOL.

Well i wonder what else the D has got up their sleeve for this poor jury.

I am still trying to work out how it benefits the D for the jury to watch this.

 

[RoundPeg]

You know - like a spycam LOL.

Well i wonder what else the D has got up their sleeve for this poor jury.

I am still trying to work out how it benefits the D for the jury to watch this.

I agree with you, there. It sounds like the jury wasn't impressed. JMO

I'm guessing it was more offensive than pathetic.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

All he is known to have had as far as mental illness was depression, and I think he may have claimed anxiety.

As you I think know now, the LE interviews with RA were recorded and WERE played. The jury has seen them and as always, which I truly endorse, they can decide if they were doing wrong to him, the jury saw them.

They psychologically tortureed him? All guards, Wala (who actually the D wanted because some of what she says they believe helps them), the warden and all others are in cahoots, and Weber too and all keeping their mouths shut?

I don't mean offense and it certainly is an investigation with its missteps, but just showing the other side to this. It is working as that's what the D wants people to believe. Too far fetched for me.
The bullet at the top of the hill is something I'd speak to I believe I recall from back when, but I don't want to misspeak and would rather be sure I recall it correctly first. Pretty sure I know about it and maybe others have forgotten too.

Regardless can I nicely point out you yourself pick and choose what you believe out of RA's mouth? Some things you do, like the bullet at the top of the hill, but other things you don't. I mean you doubt his confessions right? That he did it? But believe that about the bullet?

You won't agree, but he is a total manipulator.

Since I can't verify it right now, iwhat I think I recall from back when, I will just say about current times, if you recall, it was argued about whether it could be said the gun was racked at the top of the hill... Thought to be heard on Libby's recording LE WANTED to say such but the D argued it... WHY if they want the bullet at the top of the hill?

I am so positive, this is different but I recall something from over the years, but again I'm not going to say it until and if I can verify it.

You know, I cant look at it both ways as you are. You say he was basically tortured into confessing but then what he says in his confessions, some of them you think to be fact like the bullet at the top of the hill? Think about that. How can that be true if he NEVER did this?

Keeping prisoners isolated for long amounts of time, with little sleep, is a common war torture technique.

He was kept in solitary confinement, for 13 months, even though doctors say over a month can cause mental problems. That came from one of the prosecutions witness'. His ejecting the bullet on the hill is according to one of the witness' for the prosecution. I believe this is the same psychologist who said that RA told her he discharged the bullet on the hill. That's not out of RA's mouth directly. If it was from his mouth, it was an obvious lie. The bullet was not ejected on the hill.

The fact that he confessed 61 times is just crazy. Especially when we know a lot of them were not true. He confessed to shooting them, but they were not shot. So why is the prosecution saying he confessed 61 times. How many of those confessions match up with the details at the crime scene, and when were they said?

Why is this such a secretive trial?

I'm not saying "everyone" is involved in the conspiracy, but many, could be, steering the evidence the way they want. A bullet casing was put on the original crime scene report. When was it sealed into evidence, and when was it unsealed? Could the two bullets have been ejected one after the other by the cops? Then they'd both match.

The cop interviewing him was really pissed off that he wouldn't confess and make things easy on him. They needed a confession because they knew they had next to nothing on him. They want this crime solved, no matter who they manage to convict for it. That bugs the crap out of me. I want everyone involved in these murders convicted and locked up for the rest of their lives.

It makes it look like they are trying to shoe horn him into the facts.

Other than, he was there, had a gun that matched the ejection marks, made no confessions that fit all the facts, as far as I know what else do they have?

His saying he was spooked by the van is pretty damning if the times and distance match up. Nothing else I can think of.

His defense isn't allowed to tell the jury that 15 people called the tip line within 24 hours to identify RL as BG. They can't tell the jury that RL deliberately lied about where he was that day in order to make it look like it would be impossible for him to have been at the crime scene. This was prior to the bodies being discovered. They can't tell the jury that RL's phone pinged at the crime site at 10pm on the 13th.

If they had been able to present that to the jury, then not finding clothes in water that night, would be more important evidence.



They can't talk about Odinism. If they did, they would be able to put the professor on, who told the defense that they had been lied to by the police about his theory. The police also had trouble remembering who it was they spoke to, and couldn't tell the defense. The defense had to do their own investigation to find out who he was. The professor would tell everyone that he felt Odinism could be involved in the murders.

When I add all this up, it's just a complete inability for his defense to mount a vigorous defense. That's what bothers me about this.

 

[RoundPeg]

Keeping prisoners isolated for long amounts of time, with little sleep, is a common war torture technique.

He was kept in solitary confinement, for 13 months, even though doctors say over a month can cause mental problems. That came from one of the prosecutions witness'. His ejecting the bullet on the hill is according to one of the witness' for the prosecution. I believe this is the same psychologist who said that RA told her he discharged the bullet on the hill. That's not out of RA's mouth directly. If it was from his mouth, it was an obvious lie. The bullet was not ejected on the hill.

The fact that he confessed 61 times is just crazy. Especially when we know a lot of them were not true. He confessed to shooting them, but they were not shot. So why is the prosecution saying he confessed 61 times. How many of those confessions match up with the details at the crime scene, and when were they said?

Why is this such a secretive trial?

I'm not saying "everyone" is involved in the conspiracy, but many, could be, steering the evidence the way they want. A bullet casing was put on the original crime scene report. When was it sealed into evidence, and when was it unsealed? Could the two bullets have been ejected one after the other by the cops? Then they'd both match.

The cop interviewing him was really pissed off that he wouldn't confess and make things easy on him. They needed a confession because they knew they had next to nothing on him. They want this crime solved, no matter who they manage to convict for it. That bugs the crap out of me. I want everyone involved in these murders convicted and locked up for the rest of their lives.

It makes it look like they are trying to shoe horn him into the facts.

Other than, he was there, had a gun that matched the ejection marks, made no confessions that fit all the facts, as far as I know what else do they have?

His saying he was spooked by the van is pretty damning if the times and distance match up. Nothing else I can think of.

His defense isn't allowed to tell the jury that 15 people called the tip line within 24 hours to identify RL as BG. They can't tell the jury that RL deliberately lied about where he was that day in order to make it look like it would be impossible for him to have been at the crime scene. This was prior to the bodies being discovered. They can't tell the jury that RL's phone pinged at the crime site at 10pm on the 13th.

If they had been able to present that to the jury, then not finding clothes in water that night, would be more important evidence.



They can't talk about Odinism. If they did, they would be able to put the professor on, who told the defense that they had been lied to by the police about his theory. The police also had trouble remembering who it was they spoke to, and couldn't tell the defense. The defense had to do their own investigation to find out who he was. The professor would tell everyone that he felt Odinism could be involved in the murders.

When I add all this up, it's just a complete inability for his defense to mount a vigorous defense. That's what bothers me about this.

All the defense has to do is create reasonable doubt. They are not in charge of presenting their own prosecution.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

All the defense has to do is create reasonable doubt. They are not in charge of presenting their own prosecution.

The SODDI defense is impossible without those facts. How can you prove innocence if you can't make a plausible case against someone else? There are more than a few people who've been convicted of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm not saying that's the case here, just that it's not hard to imagine it is.

The cop getting so pissed off that RA wouldn't confess bothers me a lot.

Why was/is everything so secretive? It's a neat trick to pull this off without having the perps DNA found.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

The SODDI defense is impossible without those facts. How can you prove innocence if you can't make a plausible case against someone else? There are more than a few people who've been convicted of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm not saying that's the case here, just that it's not hard to imagine it is.

The cop getting so pissed off that RA wouldn't confess bothers me a lot.

Why was/is everything so secretive? It's a neat trick to pull this off without having the perps DNA found.

There is a much stronger case against RL than RA, IMO.

 

[Tresir]

Keeping prisoners isolated for long amounts of time, with little sleep, is a common war torture technique.

He was kept in solitary confinement, for 13 months, even though doctors say over a month can cause mental problems. That came from one of the prosecutions witness'. His ejecting the bullet on the hill is according to one of the witness' for the prosecution. I believe this is the same psychologist who said that RA told her he discharged the bullet on the hill. That's not out of RA's mouth directly. If it was from his mouth, it was an obvious lie. The bullet was not ejected on the hill.

The fact that he confessed 61 times is just crazy. Especially when we know a lot of them were not true. He confessed to shooting them, but they were not shot. So why is the prosecution saying he confessed 61 times. How many of those confessions match up with the details at the crime scene, and when were they said?

Why is this such a secretive trial?

I'm not saying "everyone" is involved in the conspiracy, but many, could be, steering the evidence the way they want. A bullet casing was put on the original crime scene report. When was it sealed into evidence, and when was it unsealed? Could the two bullets have been ejected one after the other by the cops? Then they'd both match.

The cop interviewing him was really pissed off that he wouldn't confess and make things easy on him. They needed a confession because they knew they had next to nothing on him. They want this crime solved, no matter who they manage to convict for it. That bugs the crap out of me. I want everyone involved in these murders convicted and locked up for the rest of their lives.

It makes it look like they are trying to shoe horn him into the facts.

Other than, he was there, had a gun that matched the ejection marks, made no confessions that fit all the facts, as far as I know what else do they have?

His saying he was spooked by the van is pretty damning if the times and distance match up. Nothing else I can think of.

His defense isn't allowed to tell the jury that 15 people called the tip line within 24 hours to identify RL as BG. They can't tell the jury that RL deliberately lied about where he was that day in order to make it look like it would be impossible for him to have been at the crime scene. This was prior to the bodies being discovered. They can't tell the jury that RL's phone pinged at the crime site at 10pm on the 13th.

If they had been able to present that to the jury, then not finding clothes in water that night, would be more important evidence.



They can't talk about Odinism. If they did, they would be able to put the professor on, who told the defense that they had been lied to by the police about his theory. The police also had trouble remembering who it was they spoke to, and couldn't tell the defense. The defense had to do their own investigation to find out who he was. The professor would tell everyone that he felt Odinism could be involved in the murders.

When I add all this up, it's just a complete inability for his defense to mount a vigorous defense. That's what bothers me about this.

A lot of this is incorrect but i haven't got time to go thru it point by point, so i will generalize

There have been errors in the investigation but not with the evidence IMO. The evidence is :-

The bullet retrieved from the ground at the scene.
Libby's video
The Dulin interview
The Hoosier store video
The eye witnesses
His own admissions

I don't consider he was in solitary. He was in protective custody for his own safety. He had people outside his cell, 24/7. He could exercise, speak to his attorneys and family by phone/tablet, saw the MH doctor on a daily basis and was eventually transfered to another facility. I do believe he was neglected by his attorneys for quite some time, who did not visit and just dumped the discovery on him and that was also what he was eating as well.

Once he was prescribed the Haldol, he improved. I do wonder if it was even alcohol withdrawal symptoms.

 

[Tresir]

There is a much stronger case against RL than RA, IMO.

Not as far as LE are concerned. RL's search found nothing because he was illegally driving himself to Lafayette at the time.

 

[Tresir]

This is from a few days ago but is a good account of what RA told the psychologist Monica Wala. I cannot remember if i posted it before, but apologies if I did. She gives an explanation of his behaviours and he explains to her he is a sex addict.

Delphi suspect ‘confessed’ he planned to rape victims before the murders

Richard Allen, 52, is on trial for the 2017 murders of Abby Williams and Libby German

www.independent.co.uk

Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen confessed to his psychologist that he had a sex addiction and planned to rape the two teenage girls before he ended up killing them, an Indiana court heard Wednesday.

Allen, 52, is on trial for the murders of Abigail “Abby” Williams and Liberty “Libby” German, who went missing on February 13, 2017, and were found dead the next day near the Monon High Bridge trail where they had been walking. Allen was arrested in 2022 after a misfiled report revealed he had previously told police that he was on the trail the day the girls went missing.

In a Carroll County courtroom this week, a jury watched video footage of Allen’s police interviews and heard testimony on the suspect’s vehemently disputed confessions about the murders, Fox 59 reported. The trial is closed to TV cameras and photographs and video are not being shown outside court.


Dr. Monica Wala, who was Allen’s psychologist while he was at the Westville Correctional Facility, testified Wednesday that Allen confessed during one of his sessions with her in 2023 that he killed Abby and Libby.

Allen saw Wala daily while on suicide watch at the facility and confessed to her multiple times, telling her that he “made sure they were dead because he didn’t want them to suffer.”

Allen, who claimed to be a sex addict and an alcoholic, according to Wala, told her that his intentions for the killings were “sexual in nature.” He went into detail about the murders, how he slashed the girls’ throats and placed branches over their bodies, she told the court.

Richard Allen confessed to killing the teenage girls, new recording played in court revealed. He is the suspect in the Delphi murders of two young girls (Allen County Jail)

Wala told the court that Allen also expressed his desire to apologize to the girls’ families.

But his emotions were erratic, she explained, telling the court that he often went off on tangents that coincided with strange behavior such as drinking from the toilet and eating his feces. When asked about his actions, Allen told Wala, “Because I’m insane.”


To Wala, Allen did not appear to be as suicidal, she testified, adding that he “could not kill himself because he was too much of a coward.”

Her testimony comes after jurors watched video footage from Allen’s police interrogations from October 2022 that ended in his arrest.

One interrogation began cordially but quickly turned heated after Allen insisted to investigators that he “did not murder two little girls” and ended with Allen and an Indiana State Police investigator, Jerry Holeman, swearing at each other as Allen told them to just arrest him.

The warden of the Westville Correctional Facility and several correctional officers took the witness stand and told jurors about how Allen confessed to killing the girls while in prison.

Allen had told them at one point that he killed the girls with a box cutter and disposed of it in a CVS dumpster, they testified, while guards told the jury about the bizarre behavior Allen displayed while in custody.

Libby German and Abby Williams were killed in February 2017. A jury is now hearing evidence against Allen in connection to the killings (Delphi Police)


Allen is charged with two counts of murder as well as two additional counts of murder while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping.

Prosecutors say Allen is the man known as “Bridge guy” seen in footage captured on Libby’s cellphone. A grainy image of the man was one of the few pieces released to the public after the killings as police hunted for a suspect. The case became a favorite among the true crime community and it took years to arrest Allen.

Investigators seized a .40-caliber pistol during a search of Allen’s home and prosecutors disclosed in court documents released several weeks after his arrest that testing determined that an unspent bullet found between the girls’ bodies “had been cycled through” the pistol.

However, Dr Roland Kohr, the pathologist who conducted the autopsies, testified last week that both girls died of deep lacerations to their necks. There were no signs of sexual assault injury.

A jury of seven women and five men will decide Allen’s fate. They’re being sequestered for what could be a month-long trial, banned from watching the news and allowed only limited use of their phones to call relatives while monitored.

 

[RoundPeg]

We all know (because I've said it a lot) I have a huge issue with the state stashing an accused prisoner awaiting trial in a state prison in solitary. That's for convicted inmates. The state has housed thousands of people in county jails while their murder trial is pending, and they've survived. Like it or not, this is no different. IMO. Honestly, I don't think it has a thing to do with his guilt or innocence, it's a human rights violation.

Totally my opinion.

 

[Tresir]

We all know (because I've said it a lot) I have a huge issue with the state stashing an accused prisoner awaiting trial in a state prison in solitary. That's for convicted inmates. The state has housed thousands of people in county jails while their murder trial is pending, and they've survived. Like it or not, this is no different. IMO. Honestly, I don't think it has a thing to do with his guilt or innocence, it's a human rights violation.

Totally my opinion.

He wasnt in solitary. Solitary is a completely different scenario. He talked daily on a tablet to his family and took daily exercise. The picture of him in dirty clothes was after he had exercised and he refused to change so he went to court in his sweaty clothes.

He was being protected from the other inmates.

 

[Tresir]

I am not surprised. The dignity of the murderer is more important than the dignity of his young victims. I think this is disgraceful. Did the attorneys shed tears when the girls dead bodies and injuries were shown? I think this is likely to just incense the jurors. Also, he is not "barely 5 foot" but is 5ft 5 in according to his latest mugshot.

Delphi murder victims' families furious after court refused simple ask

Delphi murder victims' families furious after court refused simple ask

Family and friends of Liberty German and Abigail Williams left furious at an Indiana court's decision to shield prison video footage from public out of 'respect' for the 'dignity' of the murderer.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Family and friends of Liberty German and Abigail Williams were left furious at an Indiana court's decision to shield explicit prison video footage from public view out of 'respect' for the 'dignity' of the man accused of murdering the Delphi teens.
Jurors in Carroll County Court were the only members of the public permitted to view nearly two hours of video recordings made of Richard Allen during the 13 months in which he was held in Westville Correctional Facility in Westville, some 76 miles outside of Delphi.
Voicing her frustration outside the Circuit courtroom in which the trial is being conducted, Libby's grandmother, Becky Patty said it was 'ridiculous' to be 'hiding' Allen when the court had 'shown the girls at their worst,' across a wealth of gruesome and publicly aired crime and autopsy photographs.

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Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, were killed outside their home town of Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017

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Richard Allen denies murdering Liberty and Abby who were killed while hiking in their hometown of Delphi, Indiana

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Family members of Liberty German and Abigail Williams listen as Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announces during a news conference in Delphi, Indiana, Monday, Oct. 31, 2022, the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, for the murders of two teenage girls killed during a 2017 hiking trip in northern Indiana
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Allen, 52, is facing four charges relating to the murders of best friends Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, who went missing after going for a hike on the Monon High Bridge trail on February 13, 2017.
He has been charged with the murder and felony murder of both girls, which means murder committed during the act of another crime, in this instance the other act would be kidnapping.
He faces a maximum sentence of 130 years if convicted.
Today, his defense continued to make their case by admitting into evidence close to two hours of footage taken from camcorders used by guards who constantly monitored and filmed Allen during his 13 months in solitary confinement and suicide watch.
At the start of Saturday morning Judge Frances Gull explained that due to the 'rather explicit scenes' contained across the 15 videos she would be publishing the exhibit - meaning the videos could be viewed – but only to the jury.
Bradely Rozzi, one of Allen's team of attorneys, thanked Judge Gull for her decision saying: 'Out of respect for various parties including my client and his dignity this is the most professional way of dealing with this.'

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Libby's wounds were more severe. She had sustained four or five deep cuts as at least one of the wounds showed evidence of overlapping cutting

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Abby sustained just one cut, between 5 and 6 cm in length and less than an inch deep. It's estimated that it took her five to ten minutes to bleed out

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The abandoned Monon High Bridge outside Delphi, Indiana, where Abby and Libby were murdered

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The large screen on which evidence has been presented to jurors was turned away from the public gallery while the videos, which contain no audio, played out to a silent court.
Visible to some members of the media from where they sat in the gallery, in some Allen is naked, in all he is cuffed or otherwise restrained.
In one, he kneels, naked, facing a wall while two officers soap him up and wash him down before drying him and placing a black 'spit hood' over his head.
Allen, in another, still bearded at the time, is getting a haircut, sitting apparently passive, his hands cuffed behind his back. At some point he is dragged along a hallway by two guards who take either arm.
In another, he appears to be lying down while guards attempt to get him up.
Another video shows Allen naked and placed in white spit hood.
Yet another shows him transported to the prison's medical unit, strapped onto a chair while he is apparently examined. Allen received several involuntary injections of the antipsychotic drug Haldol during his time at Westville.
The 'movement videos' were all taken when Allen was being transported in and out of his cell and filmed between April and June 2023, gleaned from hundreds of hours of footage reviewed by his defense team.
The jury is expected to be shown in cell video later next week.

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Richard Allen is slight, gaunt, with closely cropped hair and barely five-feet, yet witness Breann Wilber described 'Bridge Guy' as tall and muscular
They depict what the defense has presented as the peak of the 'serious mental illness' and psychotic breakdown they claim Allen suffered because of constant monitoring and his lengthy stay in solitary confinement in the most secure unit of Westville.
Jurors watched the footage intently, at times one put his hand over his mouth, but they were notably less visibly affected than Allen's own attorneys.
Jennifer Auger watched with clear discomfort as her colleague Rozzi presented each clip. At some point Andrew Baldwin, his arm round the back of Allen's chair where he sat beside him, looked close to tears.
Yesterday the court heard that Allen was 'seriously mentally ill' when he made a string of prison confessions to killing Libby and Abby.
The statement came in expert testimony from Dr. Deanna Dweinger, the psychologist who oversees mental health care in Indiana's Department of Corrections.
Under questioning from Rozzi, Dweinger told the court that the conditions in which Allen was held during his 13 months in Westville would have been 'toxic' for a man who was already suffering from depression and anxiety.

 

[Guess Who]

We all know (because I've said it a lot) I have a huge issue with the state stashing an accused prisoner awaiting trial in a state prison in solitary. That's for convicted inmates. The state has housed thousands of people in county jails while their murder trial is pending, and they've survived. Like it or not, this is no different. IMO. Honestly, I don't think it has a thing to do with his guilt or innocence, it's a human rights violation.

Totally my opinion.

I agree!

 

[Cousin Dupree]

This is from a few days ago but is a good account of what RA told the psychologist Monica Wala. I cannot remember if i posted it before, but apologies if I did. She gives an explanation of his behaviours and he explains to her he is a sex addict.

Delphi suspect ‘confessed’ he planned to rape victims before the murders

Richard Allen, 52, is on trial for the 2017 murders of Abby Williams and Libby German

www.independent.co.uk

Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen confessed to his psychologist that he had a sex addiction and planned to rape the two teenage girls before he ended up killing them, an Indiana court heard Wednesday.

Allen, 52, is on trial for the murders of Abigail “Abby” Williams and Liberty “Libby” German, who went missing on February 13, 2017, and were found dead the next day near the Monon High Bridge trail where they had been walking. Allen was arrested in 2022 after a misfiled report revealed he had previously told police that he was on the trail the day the girls went missing.

In a Carroll County courtroom this week, a jury watched video footage of Allen’s police interviews and heard testimony on the suspect’s vehemently disputed confessions about the murders, Fox 59 reported. The trial is closed to TV cameras and photographs and video are not being shown outside court.


Dr. Monica Wala, who was Allen’s psychologist while he was at the Westville Correctional Facility, testified Wednesday that Allen confessed during one of his sessions with her in 2023 that he killed Abby and Libby.

Allen saw Wala daily while on suicide watch at the facility and confessed to her multiple times, telling her that he “made sure they were dead because he didn’t want them to suffer.”

Allen, who claimed to be a sex addict and an alcoholic, according to Wala, told her that his intentions for the killings were “sexual in nature.” He went into detail about the murders, how he slashed the girls’ throats and placed branches over their bodies, she told the court.

Richard Allen confessed to killing the teenage girls, new recording played in court revealed. He is the suspect in the Delphi murders of two young girls (Allen County Jail)

Wala told the court that Allen also expressed his desire to apologize to the girls’ families.

But his emotions were erratic, she explained, telling the court that he often went off on tangents that coincided with strange behavior such as drinking from the toilet and eating his feces. When asked about his actions, Allen told Wala, “Because I’m insane.”


To Wala, Allen did not appear to be as suicidal, she testified, adding that he “could not kill himself because he was too much of a coward.”

Her testimony comes after jurors watched video footage from Allen’s police interrogations from October 2022 that ended in his arrest.

One interrogation began cordially but quickly turned heated after Allen insisted to investigators that he “did not murder two little girls” and ended with Allen and an Indiana State Police investigator, Jerry Holeman, swearing at each other as Allen told them to just arrest him.

The warden of the Westville Correctional Facility and several correctional officers took the witness stand and told jurors about how Allen confessed to killing the girls while in prison.

Allen had told them at one point that he killed the girls with a box cutter and disposed of it in a CVS dumpster, they testified, while guards told the jury about the bizarre behavior Allen displayed while in custody.

Libby German and Abby Williams were killed in February 2017. A jury is now hearing evidence against Allen in connection to the killings (Delphi Police)


Allen is charged with two counts of murder as well as two additional counts of murder while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping.

Prosecutors say Allen is the man known as “Bridge guy” seen in footage captured on Libby’s cellphone. A grainy image of the man was one of the few pieces released to the public after the killings as police hunted for a suspect. The case became a favorite among the true crime community and it took years to arrest Allen.

Investigators seized a .40-caliber pistol during a search of Allen’s home and prosecutors disclosed in court documents released several weeks after his arrest that testing determined that an unspent bullet found between the girls’ bodies “had been cycled through” the pistol.

However, Dr Roland Kohr, the pathologist who conducted the autopsies, testified last week that both girls died of deep lacerations to their necks. There were no signs of sexual assault injury.

A jury of seven women and five men will decide Allen’s fate. They’re being sequestered for what could be a month-long trial, banned from watching the news and allowed only limited use of their phones to call relatives while monitored.

Yeah, I know. This is according to the psychologist, and they didn't release the audio of the call to his wife.

It doesn't prove a lot. IIRC, this is the woman who said he ejected the bullet at the top of the hill. It would have been impossible for him to have done that according to the evidence.

I want to hear every confession or have the person who reported it on the stand. A lot of them are wildly inaccurate when compared to the evidence.

 

[Tresir]

The only important thing about his incarceration and treatment is that he is there today and physically able to stand trial due to the care and treatment he received while under Dr Wala at Westville. A video put together by the defence shows how the system has dealt with him so that he could come to trial to be prosecuted. Some of those incidents could well have been due to having to clean the faeces off him or whatever. It appears to be showing him getting injections as well. It is selective and without any context so i don't really see the purpose of it.