LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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Yeah, I know. This is according to the psychologist, and they didn't release the audio of the call to his wife.

It doesn't prove a lot. IIRC, this is the woman who said he ejected the bullet at the top of the hill. It would have been impossible for him to have done that according to the evidence.

I want to hear every confession or have the person who reported it on the stand. A lot of them are wildly inaccurate when compared to the evidence.
Not if he picked it up and then lost it at the bottom of the hill.
 
Yeah, I know. This is according to the psychologist, and they didn't release the audio of the call to his wife.

It doesn't prove a lot. IIRC, this is the woman who said he ejected the bullet at the top of the hill. It would have been impossible for him to have done that according to the evidence.

I want to hear every confession or have the person who reported it on the stand. A lot of them are wildly inaccurate when compared to the evidence.
Harshman heard them all and has already given evidence. Did you read his testimony?
 
The only important thing about his incarceration and treatment is that he is there today and physically able to stand trial due to the care and treatment he received while under Dr Wala at Westville. A video put together by the defence shows how the system has dealt with him so that he could come to trial to be prosecuted. Some of those incidents could well have been due to having to clean the faeces off him or whatever. It appears to be showing him getting injections as well. It is selective and without any context so i don't really see the purpose of it.

He was held for 13 months in an area that's supposed to be for a month at longest. The doctor didn't know of anyone else being held that way for over a month before. It was a form of torture.
 
So how much longer for this trial? Does the D really have 120 witnesses? If so then it could definitely continue for another two weeks
 
The only important thing about his incarceration and treatment is that he is there today and physically able to stand trial due to the care and treatment he received while under Dr Wala at Westville. A video put together by the defence shows how the system has dealt with him so that he could come to trial to be prosecuted. Some of those incidents could well have been due to having to clean the faeces off him or whatever. It appears to be showing him getting injections as well. It is selective and without any context so i don't really see the purpose of it.

Yeah, he wasn’t treated bad enough to die, so his treatment wasn't a problem? At all?

We disagree on that a lot.
 
Not if he picked it up and then lost it at the bottom of the hill.

True, but that wasn't what she said. I agree that's possible, but it's assuming something, we have no way of knowing.

15 people called the tip line to say BG was RL within 24 hours. That's a fact.
 
He was held for 13 months in an area that's supposed to be for a month at longest. The doctor didn't know of anyone else being held that way for over a month before. It was a form of torture.
No way. I consider it was protective custody to keep him safe and to treat him. Which they did effectively. He was only in a fragile state for two of those months - March and April of '23 IIRC.
He's at trial now and looks very healthy to me, considering he has been in custody for over two years now. Certainly in a much better state than his two defenceless young victims.
 
No way. I consider it was protective custody to keep him safe and to treat him. Which they did effectively. He was only in a fragile state for two of those months - March and April of '23 IIRC.
He's at trial now and looks very healthy to me, considering he has been in custody for over two years now. Certainly in a much better state than his two defenceless young victims.

We'll just have to disagree on that.
 
True, but that wasn't what she said. I agree that's possible, but it's assuming something, we have no way of knowing.

15 people called the tip line to say BG was RL within 24 hours. That's a fact.
Yeah and they were probably all his exes ringing in several times. At the end of the day RA has been saying stuff for two years, that only BG would know. He is done for.
 
We'll just have to disagree on that.

ETA: whoever killed those defenseless young girls was in control. Almost every adult in the area was better equipped than they were. So why is that a thing at all?

All I want is ALL of the people involved in this to be punished. I'm not just going to sit back and not have any questions. The police aren't always right. Would anyone be happy if anyone involved got away free? Would anyone care if an innocent man was convicted?

I don't know how much involvement he had and that's why I want clarification. It seems odd that the guy who did it, would call the police tip line to tell them he had been there.

The hostile interview with the cop was because he wasn’t going to just roll over for them. It disturbs me to see how angry that cop got when he couldn't get a confession from him.
 
Yeah and they were probably all his exes ringing in several times. At the end of the day RA has been saying stuff for two years, that only BG would know. He is done for.

Probably? You're just going to assume that? I know at least one was a man. Unfortunately I don't remember the relation. Some of them I'd bet wanted to be anonymous.

I also know that not a single tip mentioned RA.
 
ETA: whoever killed those defenseless young girls was in control. Almost every adult in the area was better equipped than they were. So why is that a thing at all?

All I want is ALL of the people involved in this to be punished. I'm not just going to sit back and not have any questions. The police aren't always right. Would anyone be happy if anyone involved got away free? Would anyone care if an innocent man was convicted?

I don't know how much involvement he had and that's why I want clarification. It seems odd that the guy who did it, would call the police tip line to tell them he had been there.

The hostile interview with the cop was because he wasn’t going to just roll over for them. It disturbs me to see how angry that cop got when he couldn't get a confession from him.
His wife told him to call them and tell them. He does what she says. He's not innocent based on the fact he knows things only the killer knows. The white van arriving for instance that he told Wala about, the way they were killed, and telling the cops he had never lent his gun out.
 
Probably? You're just going to assume that? I know at least one was a man. Unfortunately I don't remember the relation. Some of them I'd bet wanted to be anonymous.

I also know that not a single tip mentioned RA.
We are never going to know who tipped Logan and yes they could even have been anonymous so i am not going to argue about it, but it was enough to get his place searched and him investigated. During that investigation they discovered his drinking and driving, for which he served two years prison time. His alibi for the murders is what got him the two years in prison.

I don't know how you know that noone tipped RA. The only one we know of they filed as "cleared".
 
Probably? You're just going to assume that? I know at least one was a man. Unfortunately I don't remember the relation. Some of them I'd bet wanted to be anonymous.

I also know that not a single tip mentioned RA.
I dont really follow what the point is that you are making. I don't know how you could even know what tips had been called in on anybody either so it is irrelevant anyway. RA is charged with the murders now and in a couple of weeks we will have a verdict. Anything else is a waste of time.
 

What Google searches from Richard Allen reveal​

As the prosecution rested its case against Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen, prosecutors submitted one final exhibit to the court.

The state had asked the court to admit Allen’s Google search history into evidence. The defense objected and Special Judge Fran Gull took it under advisement. On Thursday, she allowed the prosecution to submit the evidence to the jury.

FOX59/CBS4 reporter Max Lewis noted that the searches weren’t read aloud in court and witnesses offered no testimony about them.

The searches are from Allen’s Gmail account and were done on one of his devices.

On Oct. 2, 2022, less than two weeks before he was initially questioned in the case, Allen searched for the “65+ best kidnapping and hostage movies ever made.” Other searches from the same day included “man held hostage by teen” and “movie about a man being held against his will.”

On Oct. 17, 2022, he searched ABC News for an article about the Delphi murders. That would have been four days after investigators initially questioned him about the case.

On May 27, 2020, he searched for a story about rebuilding the Monon High Bridge. In May 2021, he searched for shooting ranges.

Allen also searched multiple times about the Delphi case, according to the records. On Aug. 4 and Aug. 5, 2022, he did five searches for “Delphi murders update.” That’s just a couple months before he found himself at the center of the case.

Between January 2022 and April 2022, Allen did a general search for “Delphi” 11 times. Also in April 2022, he searched “should I die now?”
It appeared Allen had an interest in disturbing movies. On April 27, 2022, he searched for “insidious” and “horrifying” things to watch. In another search from June 2023, he looked for the “most f***** up thing to watch on Netflix,” according to the analysis.
 

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