There should be a transcript at least. The defense claims the guards were taunting him during his stay. Were they?
Gee, I don't know. Has the D provide proof of this for all the months and years and motions? No idea. And sure all of them. The warden too. Dr. Wala too,. This whole thing came about when imo they FAILED their client. They never saw him, dumped papers on him, he had NO counsel and started confessing and panicking. But sure, and Dr. Wala is an O too lol.
Do you even think all guards are good friends or the warden or someone is running them? Think about it. It's so far fetched.
The D should have lost their jobs imo but had to come up with something big and so they did. I'm drawing a blank for the D's first hurried reason for his confesion/s at that point was a very poor one. First tI think they ever did a thing and it was weak. THEN they scramble for some time and then hit with this sensnationalistic ridiculously written even longer than anything I've ever writen including diatribes about UNSALTED burgers and lack of salt LOL.
I've said a million times if I dind't work, man I'd put a timeline together rin this case...Because it is so clear...
There were how many guards testifying? FOUR? And of varying lengths of time there, etc.
I honestly don't know. Let the D bring it then if they have proof for any claim they've made me in every motion, claims now, etc...
I don't know about a transcript but the guards had notes they took all day and testified to them, sure didn't[ seem made up to me, because some were, well, have you read or followed that or that testimony?
He WROTE to the warden. He was on a CALL with his wife. He confessed to Wala many a time and also about self, sex addiction, selfish more and she is not a guard...Not trying to be vehement but I said and I do understand where you are coming from but I sure don't think you are seeing where everyone else is coming from or a few of us anyhow. Again, not speaking for anyone else.
It was not a PERFECT investigation, and it is not a PERFECT case but was it Regina that said a few days ago, it's really pretty simple or something like that. I don't always agree with her but it really is and there is plenty here. Plenty.
There's been a ton of D bluster and I might add leaks and a suicide.
ALL of these witnesses that were up for the P are not in cahoots.
I suspect too which we wouldn't know, maybe some things have been agreed to, a lot is stipulated to before trial. Between actually the D and the P. I've told the story before of our D wanted the word abuse never used and we are just a family of a victim and the P (who I think highly of don't get me wrong) agreed or didn''t overly argue it. He may have for a moment. To use a reporter's word of the traditional news, we were aghast!! We aren't people who are in court ever day, we are not judges, Ps, Ds, etc. and what happened not her was definitely abuse and beyond.
Becky Patty's upset I could do totally relate with. They've held so much in and death with so much and a case that is nuts all over the internet and you name it for years on end, but they are finally to trial and just the fact Gull allowed RA dignity when the death scenes and autopsy photos were shown of the girls, I totally GET her being upset and probably close to losing it.
And these families have been in touch with LE and more for years and probably learned some of the b.s. and ways, but they never have been to trial until now... And as much as some better ones try to prepare you, and most don't (like LE, victim advocates), etc... I have less sympathy for a few reasons but I'd say KA and mom too of RA are reeling at times because it just isn't something they've ever lived or asked for.
Yah, I guess i'm going on. Been trying to get to elsewhere but was tryiing to get caught up here.
I DO get your views and your reasons but I don't feel you see as much of the other side of things.
And as I said Gull has been giving the D a TON of leeway.
When RA is convicted (I always think positive, I don't jinx lol) that would be a Virgo or some of them, and RA is one, just recently realized that and so fits too lol. Not hung up on that but was interesting because if I'd have had to guess I'd have been right on... Not a serious thing but just saying some are so right on with certain traits in any sign...
But I had the thought not long ago, when he is convicted, I think in a few years or later or less, we are going to see some things... One is going to be KA if she can EVER not to try o put on this front, etc. I think RA will look back at these two attys and use it, even thought he locked himself in quite a bit there... Perhaps KA recently talking about the sanctity of marriage like recently willl stay married, I kind of doubt it but if she does it will only be in name...
I just think things are going to come out well after he fact... Could be wrong...
And perhaps some will never happen but one day his sister might. One day his daughter might.
Strictures, rules, perfection, image... when you restrict something to some it makes it more attractive...
And yeah, there are things we never know that aren't allowed in trials. And honest to God I think RA has a juvenile records at least, maybe even one as a young adult expunged or CLOSE calls never charged.... Deal made, etc... That alias MAY be an error but we have a man saying he was molested his sister, he did girls and boys when a teen or swung both ways, said he is a sex addict and it started there... Maybe this too was some of the stuff dumped in the records to him not by his atty but by some lackey...All of course can be argued to be and may very well be kept out...
Our perp had a few things and it ticked us off it could not come up or be used. As an adult even, firing from a couple of jobs and some other things AND worked as a copy younger in life, caught lying, stealing and fired but of course it was all handled and him just dismissed was one.. Twice I think actually because since they handle that way, they like a bad teacher or molesting teacher, bad cop, just go get a job in another city... Etc...A bit of a juvenile record but don't think we could ever be told the details on that but heard about it from people that knew him and remembered such...
I don't even know my point any longer but I'm just saying just wait...
AND also IF there was someone else involved or others (and I really don't think that any longer but don't dismiss it totally but overall don't think so), let him get to prison, know the other person is not and he can always go say hey, this isn't fair and flip now can't he....
It is interesting that he said in the LE interview, go ahead, I've wanted to die, don't care most of my life or something like that, arrest me, doesn't bother me and so on...And YET he is an attention seeker and does anything for attention and I believe that totally but while at the same time wants his secrecy and his privacy to pull his weird stuff while playing married man, father, good boy, pharm clerk etc.
I know. Going on. But this is what I SEE and much of it is all there in things...
So said he has always wanted to die but told Wala he was actually too much of a coward to kill himself or die.
Aren't most... Kill their wife and kids and them just can't quite to do it to self, kill to girls but can't quite do it to self, threaten or say it to wife when married and she started crying in ithe courtroom of this one and I guess remembering, OR trying to influence the jury, but it is all manipulation and lies. aNd it apparently has always worked on KA and his mom or KA knows and is just being this through and showing support...
He's like do dependent but then is running around in his off time doing his own thing and up to no good...
God, I'm sorry but there are so many nuances here to add to the evidence. So many changes in stories by him. So much manipualtion...
He was there. And they did not take some bullet and plant it there five or more years later for God's sake. I'm just talking to air now, not AT anyone... And lost the tip for that long too. No way. He was NOT even on the radar. And they truly are too inept at times and to plan that far ahead, no way... FEw even knew who this man was. All L's family knew was he offered free photos and pretty sure it was not that they recognized him but when they learned more and where he worked, etc. None suspected or knew. Not so sure about wife or mom though...
And LE looked out there arresting someone NEVER before heard about. That did not help them at ALL. And uhm they didn't place him there, he did...
For me, there is sooooooooooooooooooooo much.
I should go to bed but I really need to go watch something mundane like cooking or some such right now...
No one has to agree and if I recall I jumped off ________'s post no saying emu any longer and it's a heavy case, we can't watch, and opinions and emotions run high. And I guess jjust saying what comes.
I've said more than once too to me he is not much different than LISK and I truly believe that and that's what we are seeing and hearing... Not sure if he has others under his belt but he would have imo. Liar, manipulator, control and sex, fear inducing obsessed...
Not all but some the instincts just kick. He is one. But I convict on evidence. And there's plenty. Imo.
I am not going to read back, was just trying to catch up and every time I did, wasn't quite there.
Oh again, can't call you emu, so you certainly dont' have to agree, never will nor will I with you, but I do see what you are thinking and why and just hope you can see some of why I or some of us think otherwise...
Yup got into the long-winded one and sidetracking one. I am waiting to gain my hour. At 2 right? Because my preference to work at 8:30 is to get up at least by 4. I am down to 2.5 hours... By the time it hits 2 and the time changes, 3 hours. I can go later and still make it of course but like that amount of time before a work shift ideally. And I think I have 3 8:30s in row, unheard of. But at least for the next few I will be done earlier before the next one, where tonight I worked late, going in at 1, so little time between.
And this woman who talks of and believe in logic and common sense doesn't have enough of either to go to bed. Not the first time and I get through somehow.
Should go to bed now, but I need a break from this, would have headed for Tom but think I better just go get/watch some more mundane and calming stuff.
Yeah it's long. So ____ won't read it. Lost the emu I guess. No longer wants the name LOL
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