LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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I just saw this, I may have seen it before, can't recall. He actually thinks this would have been helpful for Rick. I don't. I think it would have been the opposite. Poor man was exhausted, I mean he had a big day.

That is also if KA was even telling the truth. I for one wouldn't believe a word out of her mouth.

It's just a "short".



Poor guys didn't dare put Mrs. Allen on the stand.

Baldwin, poor old sod, looks and sounds worn out.
 
So per Scott, it would seem the D has to do one last effort in front of the trial court before appealing. He thinks Gull will promptly deny it. I agree. It is also a joke imo, all of it, nothing of substance is there.

 
O/T. So in Scott's dumb criminals of the day, here we go again, why do idiots get mad over fast food and start shooting. This time it was over cold french fries at the drive thru at Wendy's. Guy (customer) pulled out a gun and shot if I have it right. He and friends went inside. Female clerk not to be outdone, was packing and she pulled out a gun and shot. More shooting and clerk got shot in BUTT by someone. Etc. Etc. Both hauled off to jail. Clerk was on probation and was a felon and not to have firearm. Etc.

Sheesh. I'm not happy over cold fries. Earlier I got very upset over someone insulting enchiladas but I never start shooting... I'm still free too. Seems like a good plan to me, don't shoot over food... Especially fast food... Scott never has any shortage of dumb criminals in this country, I think at times they have time picking just one incident/person...
 
O/T. So in Scott's dumb criminals of the day, here we go again, why do idiots get mad over fast food and start shooting. This time it was over cold french fries at the drive thru at Wendy's. Guy (customer) pulled out a gun and shot if I have it right. He and friends went inside. Female clerk not to be outdone, was packing and she pulled out a gun and shot. More shooting and clerk got shot in BUTT by someone. Etc. Etc. Both hauled off to jail. Clerk was on probation and was a felon and not to have firearm. Etc.

Sheesh. I'm not happy over cold fries. Earlier I got very upset over someone insulting enchiladas but I never start shooting... I'm still free too. Seems like a good plan to me, don't shoot over food... Especially fast food... Scott never has any shortage of dumb criminals in this country, I think at times they have time picking just one incident/person...
LOL. I just finished watching this too. Yep that server who returned fire and ended up shot in the butt was a felon herself and shouldn't even have been packing a gun anyway but it may have saved her life though.

Did you notice in the RA segment, Scott revealed that he was kept under a pseudonym in jail, for protection, i guess. So finally, that explains the alias of Craig Ross Renfrew on his details.
 
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LOL. I just finished watching this too. Yep that server who returned fire and ended up shot in the butt was a felon herself and shouldn't even have been packing a gun anyway but it may have saved her life though.

Did you notice in the RA segment, Scott revealed that he was kept under a pseudonym in jail, for protection, i guess. So that explains the alias of Craig Ross Renfrew on his details.
Yeah, I heard that the other day but never thought to mention it.

You know another thing in the D filing that they kind of fuzzed up was the atty, KA hired told KA the night before RA was going to be charged with murder the next day, He knew everything, they were informing him. Yet then the D says they went ahead even though they knew he was represented and did the safekeeping order. Well hey the atty knew they were going to charge him etc. that day so it isn't like anyone needed to inform him, he KNEW. No secret to him,

They are twisting that too.

Personally I don't think we've ever heard from that atty as he didn't see anything wrong in anything and he did make contact, etc. was told he was under an alias, was allowed to meet with RA, etc. It is THIS D trying to use that atty to make these allegations now. It is NOT that atty doing so.
 
Yeah, I heard that the other day but never thought to mention it.

You know another thing in the D filing that they kind of fuzzed up was the atty, KA hired told KA the night before RA was going to be charged with murder the next day, He knew everything, they were informing him. Yet then the D says they went ahead even though they knew he was represented and did the safekeeping order. Well hey the atty knew they were going to charge him etc. that day so it isn't like anyone needed to inform him, he KNEW. No secret to him,

They are twisting that too.

Personally I don't think we've ever heard from that atty as he didn't see anything wrong in anything and he did make contact, etc. was told he was under an alias, was allowed to meet with RA, etc. It is THIS D trying to use that atty to make these allegations now. It is NOT that atty doing so.
So that also explains why he handed his keys and belonging to KA beforehand and why in the interview he ends up saying arrest me.

So was the story about going to pick up the car just a load of bull too?

And we recently learned that McLeland watched the interview and arrest remotely.

Have to say I am impressed with how LE handled it. With someone like RA, he could have flipped at any time.
 
So that also explains why he handed his keys and belonging to KA beforehand and why in the interview he ends up saying arrest me.

So was the story about going to pick up the car just a load of bull too?

And we recently learned that McLeland watched the interview and arrest remotely.

Have to say I am impressed with how LE handled it. With someone like RA, he could have flipped at any time.
Hmmm, so you are thinking KA went and hired this atty while RA was being interviewed and the atty told her before she went back in that he would be arrested for murder? I didn't take it like that I guess... I figured RA was arrested and this attorney she had hired earlier did his job after KA told him he had been arrested, and he found out the charges were going to be murder the next day so he couldn't get him out on bond that night as KA probably had asked him to try to do...??

I did not know NM watched remotely.

I have no complaints about how they did this, I think they executed all perfectly and well within allowed practice.

No idea if the car thing was legit or not, I do believe or imagine the Allens did want it back if possible... I'm sure they needed it or needed money and anything they could get...
 
Hmmm, so you are thinking KA went and hired this atty while RA was being interviewed and the atty told her before she went back in that he would be arrested for murder? I didn't take it like that I guess... I figured RA was arrested and this attorney she had hired earlier did his job after KA told him he had been arrested, and he found out the charges were going to be murder the next day so he couldn't get him out on bond that night as KA probably had asked him to try to do...??

I did not know NM watched remotely.

I have no complaints about how they did this, I think they executed all perfectly and well within allowed practice.

No idea if the car thing was legit or not, I do believe or imagine the Allens did want it back if possible... I'm sure they needed it or needed money and anything they could get...
Yeah NM shared that in the interview he did.
 
Yeah I need to get back to that. I hadn't finished even NM yet. I was going to go back but I did stop to get Tom's in so I knew what had been filed and what was being claimed, then I never got back to MS. Pretty sure I still have it up on a tab though for when I get a moment. Who is Luttrull, is that a P atty. I think? I forget...
 
I'm watching Tom at Taco Bell lol. He is a Taco Bell fanatic and is doing a video there and ordering food lol. Trying a bunch of new things so far...
 

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