LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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Tom had said he was going to be putting this show together. It's on in about an hour and a half. He's been at it for a bit. After there is a live chat which seems to be a different link, separate from this show I am linking but right after.

 

Delphi defense team requests evidence related to inmate who Ron Logan supposedly confessed to​

DELPHI, Ind. — In a motion filed late Friday, attorneys for convicted Delphi murderer Richard Allen asked Judge Fran Gull to force Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland to turn over any evidence he has related to inmate Ricci Davis.

In November, Allen was found guilty of murdering Abby Williams and Libby German in February 2017. He received a 130-year prison sentence.

Davis was at one time in the same cell block as Ron Logan. Logan owned the property where Abby and Libby’s bodies were found and was at one time a suspect in their murders.

Davis contacted law enforcement in May 2017 to tell them that Logan had confessed to a step-by-step killing of Abby and Libby.
 

EXCLUSIVE: Inmate says Delphi prosecutor ignored his letters about Ron Logan confession in letter to FOX59​

In a letter to FOX59 and CBS4’s Max Lewis, the inmate who is at the center of the latest legal battle in the Delphi double murders case said Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland ignored repeated efforts to inform him about a supposed confession to the murders made by a man who was once a prime suspect.

The letter was mailed to the FOX59/CBS4 studios by Ricci Davis, who is serving a 50-year sentence at the New Castle Correctional Facility for dealing methamphetamine.

FOX59 and CBS4 had previously requested an interview with Davis regarding his role in the Delphi case but was denied due to “safety and security concerns.”
 

EXCLUSIVE: Inmate says Delphi prosecutor ignored his letters about Ron Logan confession in letter to FOX59​

In a letter to FOX59 and CBS4’s Max Lewis, the inmate who is at the center of the latest legal battle in the Delphi double murders case said Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland ignored repeated efforts to inform him about a supposed confession to the murders made by a man who was once a prime suspect.

The letter was mailed to the FOX59/CBS4 studios by Ricci Davis, who is serving a 50-year sentence at the New Castle Correctional Facility for dealing methamphetamine.

FOX59 and CBS4 had previously requested an interview with Davis regarding his role in the Delphi case but was denied due to “safety and security concerns.”

"Safety and Security concerns"? Riiiiigggghhhht.
 

Delphi defense team requests evidence related to inmate who Ron Logan supposedly confessed to​

DELPHI, Ind. — In a motion filed late Friday, attorneys for convicted Delphi murderer Richard Allen asked Judge Fran Gull to force Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland to turn over any evidence he has related to inmate Ricci Davis.

In November, Allen was found guilty of murdering Abby Williams and Libby German in February 2017. He received a 130-year prison sentence.

Davis was at one time in the same cell block as Ron Logan. Logan owned the property where Abby and Libby’s bodies were found and was at one time a suspect in their murders.

Davis contacted law enforcement in May 2017 to tell them that Logan had confessed to a step-by-step killing of Abby and Libby.


Is this the guy who failed a poly when they questioned him about the alleged confession he witnessed?

Was RL in prison in May 2017?

Apparently he was, as he was arrested in Mar 2017 but was only charged with his driving offences.
 
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There is a link in the narrative below to an interview from one of the jurors which pulls up the detail of the juror interview and how their deliberations developed. I recommend reading that link as it is very interesting.


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DELPHI MURDERS TRIAL

Libby German’s grandparents open up about the Delphi trial​

by: Rafael Sánchez

Posted: Feb 12, 2025 / 10:15 PM EST

Updated: Feb 13, 2025 / 06:41 PM EST
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DELPHI, Ind. — Abby Williams and Libby German should be finishing their college senior year with eyes on graduation.

But that was among the many milestones stolen from their families.

“Two girls lost their lives,” said Becky Patty, grandmother of Libby. “A monster took it.”


Delphi murders trial: Day-by-day summary of the proceedings
The families of the victims at the center of the Delphi murders trial said justice was at last found at the Carroll County Courthouse last November. It only took seven years, the teenage girls’ bodies found on Feb. 14, 2017, and Richard Allen convicted of multiple counts of murder on Nov. 11, 2024.

In December, Allen was sentenced to 130 years in prison.

“Are you at peace with the verdict?”

“The verdict was fair and just,” answered Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby. “Our justice system worked just as intended. It won’t bring the girls back—that will never happen, but at least he can’t do this to someone else’s family.”

It isn’t the first time Mike and Becky Patty have sat in their kitchen and endured dredging up the memory of their grandaughter whose life was taken far too soon. Libby’s grandparents have been outspoken about the case and their quest for justice, but this is the first time they’ve opened up about the trial now that the court-imposed gag order has been lifted.

Juror in Delphi murders trial talks about historic case

During the sit-down interview with FOX59/CBS4’s Rafael Sánchez, the Pattys revealed how they felt about Judge Fran Gull, the police investigators and the state prosecution.

“They were so highly committed to this,” Mike said, praising the investigators who refused to let the case go cold.

The Pattys were critical of Allen’s defense team, particularly for failing to protect key evidence — such as photographs of the gruesome crime scene — which wound up the internet.

“It will never end for our family,” Becky said. “(Andrew Baldwin’s) mistake will live forever unless we can get photos off the internet and that’s impossible.”

While the case hasn’t left the spotlight entirely, Allen’s attorneys pushing for an appeal on his conviction, the Pattys are turning their faces toward a brighter future and look to 2025 as the year they take back their lives.

“I turned this over to God and said I trust that people will see the truth,” Becky said.

The full interview between Rafael and the Pattys is embedded within this story.
 
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???? Why would evidence not be preserved until all chances at appeals have been exhausted?

Judge denies motion to preserve evidence by Delphi murders trial defense team​

Special Judge Frances Gull has denied a motion by Richard Allen's defense attorneys to preserve evidence from the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German.

On Jan. 20, 2025, Allen's attorneys filed a "Motion to Preserve Specific Evidence."

Included in that motion were:
  1. All physical evidence taken from the crime scene or near the crime scene, including any belts, cigarette butts or any electronic items (whether or not they were working).
  2. All DNA swabs taken during the investigation or even during trial or afterwards.
  3. All forensic evidence obtained during the investigation, or even during trial or afterwards.
  4. Any and all reports or lists that identify anyone whose interviews were erased while in possession of law enforcement or the State of Indiana.
  5. All evidence identified on the State of Indiana’s exhibit list or that may be exculpatory in nature
But Gull said there was no authority that supports that motion. Her order says the court "will maintain the exhibits admitted into evidence in accordance with the Trial and Appellate Rules."

Gull went on to say she does not have the authority to "order the State of Indiana, including prosecutor's office and all law enforcement agencies, labs, or state, federal and local bureaucracies that possess any of the following evidence to preserve said evidence and not destroy or lose said evidence."

The judge denied the motion. Gull also denied a separate motion filed by the defense to correct alleged errors the judge made during Allen’s trial.

This is separate from a motion filed in February by Allen's defense attorneys, asking for letters an Indiana prisoner allegedly sent outlining confessions by two men the prisoner says were involved in the Delphi murders.
 
???? Why would evidence not be preserved until all chances at appeals have been exhausted?
Her order says the court "will maintain the exhibits admitted into evidence in accordance with the Trial and Appellate Rules."

Gull went on to say she does not have the authority to "order the State of Indiana, including prosecutor's office and all law enforcement agencies, labs, or state, federal and local bureaucracies that possess any of the following evidence to preserve said evidence and not destroy or lose said evidence."
 
Her order says the court "will maintain the exhibits admitted into evidence in accordance with the Trial and Appellate Rules."

Gull went on to say she does not have the authority to "order the State of Indiana, including prosecutor's office and all law enforcement agencies, labs, or state, federal and local bureaucracies that possess any of the following evidence to preserve said evidence and not destroy or lose said evidence."
I guess I don’t understand. If the evidence is maintained under certain rules already, what is the need for the motion?
It seems like the law is…if “we” (company) run this DNA, process this evidence, whatever…it now belongs to us and we can destroy it if we want? Seems like better laws should be in place.
 
Her order says the court "will maintain the exhibits admitted into evidence in accordance with the Trial and Appellate Rules."

Gull went on to say she does not have the authority to "order the State of Indiana, including prosecutor's office and all law enforcement agencies, labs, or state, federal and local bureaucracies that possess any of the following evidence to preserve said evidence and not destroy or lose said evidence."
I read it the same way. It sounds like standard procedure to me. I doubt all of the exhibits are all that the defense wants preserved but it sounds as if they are what are to be preserved. Hard to be sure what the Trial and Appellate Rules say. I'm waiting for someone like Scott Reisch (an attorney) to come on and explain it.

Regardless, it sounds like she is following the rules and has to do so. It would be nice if news did some real research and actually explained things when they print an article. Imo.
 
???? Why would evidence not be preserved until all chances at appeals have been exhausted?
Reply above SBM.

As i understand it, if the evidence was submitted in the trial it will be preserved. Any evidence not used in the trial she has no authority over, i believe she is saying. Which makes sense really.
 
I guess I don’t understand. If the evidence is maintained under certain rules already, what is the need for the motion?
It seems like the law is…if “we” (company) run this DNA, process this evidence, whatever…it now belongs to us and we can destroy it if we want? Seems like better laws should be in place.
Not all evidence was submitted to court. Think of all the evidence they collected just from RL's property for example. That was never used or submitted to court. If they want that evidence retained, if it hasnt already been destroyed, I guess they have to petition LE.

One would think RA's defence lawyer should have already known this.
 
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Reply above SBM.

As i understand it, if the evidence was submitted in the trial it will be preserved. Any evidence not used in the trial she has no authority over, i believe she is saying. Which makes sense really.

There was a lot of evidence that wasn't allowed to be entered. So they can destroy it. Absolutely amazing that they can destroy it.
 
If they haven't already, yes. It has been 8 years after all.
I don't think they would destroy anything before trial.

You know, the defense had their chance too to bring in things for evidence if they wanted such preserved. If they in all of this time couldn't do anything with something or make a case for it, or bring it in, well I'm not sure of the law or standard procedure, but appeals are generally related to the trial, not to anything out there never used or of significance. They had their chance to defend the case and they'd also have any testing results or anything else they did on any evidence, and the case has now been tried. I'm guessing it all is on that order, the reasoning behind what seems to be standard procedure.

As I said, I am waiting for Scott or someone like him to explain how this works and that it is probably standard procedure. Hopefully he does so.
 

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