LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *TRIAL IN PROGRESS*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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Did the defense appeal the judge's order on that one to the higher court? I mean back when? Why not I wonder... If they could have and didn't, then it doesn't really play into the current stuff as far as what has blown this into one defense caused recent mess. To my knowledge they can appeal any judge's decision or order during a criminal process.

And did you see Allen in the recent hearing? He looked well, he was with it, clearly showing he was a normal human, etc. I don't think any killer is or can be a normal human but the whole other act was gone and his look but then I suppose you want to seem okay, lucid, etc. when need be. He wasn't gaunt, etc. and do you know what I saw? Bridge Guy.

I find it interesting the Os, Allen and others in and around this case were all in the Guards... If one wanted to connect people and put them together with no evidence as the old defense did in the O thing, I'd say some could connect some dots with the Guard thing if that is required and it would be less out there than their story... I mean military of course, not O prison guards... Who I gather per Tresir I think it was were also National Guard or reserve.... And MW too right? Pretty interesting... Since if Os did this, no one still has removed Allen from being there along with 'them" or being one of them...

Not trying to argue or anything, just another perspective. I'd also like to know as I don't recall and don't want anyone to do the work for me but if anyone knows off the top of their head, was it Gull who appointed B and R or was it the first judge who quickly recused himself...? He was there for a little bit and generally appointing counsel for defendant's is pretty quick although as i recall RA first thought he could afford a private attorney and then said he could not. I could sidetrack on why that was, wife was realizing she/they would lost everything...

But again I sidetrack. Just curious which judge appointed these two...
I think the first judge appointed them but not sure. Maybe Nicholas Mcleland ?

Regarding the National Guard, that's not gospel except for maybe RF and MW. I saw a comment about it, that someone suggested the others could be too. Can't even remember where I saw it but it was probably a reddit or YouTube comment.
 
I think the first judge appointed them but not sure. Maybe Nicholas Mcleland ?

Regarding the National Guard, that's not gospel except for maybe RF and MW. I saw a comment about it, that someone suggested the others could be too. Can't even remember where I saw it but it was probably a reddit or YouTube comment.
Pretty sure Gull appointed them. I'll double check. Yes, she did.
 

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You all do realize that BG dressed and sounds like half the men in Indiana, don't you?
Dressing is one thing voices are another. Totally. Just like LE said all along someone knows this voice and mannerisms etc. not the clothing. I live in a state you would probably say that about but it's not so. Voices are very different. Way of talking or terms or accents may be the same but not the voice.
 
Pretty sure Gull appointed them. I'll double check. Yes, she did.
Yes I just checked, he stood down on 3 Nov last year. Due to the 'bloodlust' for info. Was the PCA ever released? At that time it was sealed.

 
Proof?

He was the only one who admits to being on the trails and bridge between 1.30 and 3.30 though.

BTW MW stole the photos in August but RF did not shoot himself until 11th Oct, after the LE visit.
I'll take pictures today on the sly when I'm out and about. Kidding. There's a guy who shops in one of the stores I work in that is a ringer for RA. I have to force myself to stop staring.

I don't think RA is innocent at all. I just think imaginations allow us to get carried away. Remember when the public was asked to stop the side by side comparisons? There was a reason for that.
 
@Tresir said;
"BTW MW stole the photos in August but RF did not shoot himself
until 11th Oct, after the LE visit."

Yeah, about that, so I figure what happened there.. the guy didn't
commit suicide in concern at having leaked a bunch of photos...
I figure the LE that talked to him probably went heavy along the lines
of, guess what, you're disseminating child porn thing, ->sex offender listing,
->many many years in prison upcoming for him, for that. Cause think
about it - pictures of semi-naked/naked children? nothing in the laws that
say they have to be alive, so yeah, the LE probably slanted it as child
porn - so the suicide is still 'what, really?', but now with that angle, at
least it doesn't seem so impossible that he might do it.
 
@Tresir said;
"BTW MW stole the photos in August but RF did not shoot himself
until 11th Oct, after the LE visit."

Yeah, about that, so I figure what happened there.. the guy didn't
commit suicide in concern at having leaked a bunch of photos...
I figure the LE that talked to him probably went heavy along the lines
of, guess what, you're disseminating child porn thing, ->sex offender listing,
->many many years in prison upcoming for him, for that. Cause think
about it - pictures of semi-naked/naked children? nothing in the laws that
say they have to be alive, so yeah, the LE probably slanted it as child
porn - so the suicide is still 'what, really?', but now with that angle, at
least it doesn't seem so impossible that he might do it.
That is plenty of time in between for more things to happen. And/Or things to really hit the fan for him. IMO. There was certainly something he couldn't get out of.
 
I'll take pictures today on the sly when I'm out and about. Kidding. There's a guy who shops in one of the stores I work in that is a ringer for RA. I have to force myself to stop staring.

I don't think RA is innocent at all. I just think imaginations allow us to get carried away. Remember when the public was asked to stop the side by side comparisons? There was a reason for that.

I think it probably went this way:

One of the others: "OK, they're gonna nail you for this. YOU were the only one there, RIGHT? Make sure that's all you say. OK, Richard!!!
 

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