LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *TRIAL IN PROGRESS*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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I have removed the link in question as well as several follow-up posts.

You ARE allowed to discuss theories. But the link was definitely political. There are other ways to discuss possible ties to white supremacy in this particular case without going down the political rabbit hole.

As has been said before: No politics. No religion (unless it related directly to the case).
Thanks for clarifying that for us, She.
 
We disagree here, and that's fine.

IMO - no benefit to RA for further delaying trial. Benefit of any delay goes to the P. JMHO
Definitely no benefit to RA. I actually feel sorry for him being forced to accept lawyers who cannot even secure evidence.
 
Hey Cuz, did you listen to RA's voice compared to the other three yet? What did you think?

I'm watching Hill testify in the Murdaugh case. I will later. I want to return some cans to Wegmans and drop some stuff off at a consignment shop and possibly Uber. I will later.
 
Definitely no benefit to RA. I actually feel sorry for him being forced to accept lawyers who cannot even secure evidence.

They can't secure evidence because the prosecution is holding it back. They can't ask for something they don't know exists.
 
Definitely no benefit to RA. I actually feel sorry for him being forced to accept lawyers who cannot even secure evidence.

Agree on no benefit to RA re delays other than getting a fair trial under a fair judge.

Otherwise, RA was offered alternatives and rejected them and has written at least 3 affidavits attesting to his full faith and trust and belief in the D he has had for more than a year now.
 
They can't secure evidence because the prosecution is holding it back. They can't ask for something they don't know exists.
I was talking about the crime scene photos leak that came from their office.

The P have also just supplied more discovery to them too but have had nothing back from them.
 
From the affidavit:
Gull's son's family socializing w/ the Pattys while Gull rules on the murder trial bench ... is a twist I did not see coming.

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Agree on no benefit to RA re delays other than getting a fair trial under a fair judge.

Otherwise, RA was offered alternatives and rejected them and has written at least 3 affidavits attesting to his full faith and trust and belief in the D he has had for more than a year now.
Yes, but I do wonder if he is competent to make these decisions. That's why I feel sorry for him, although I shouldn't, I know. I think they are manipulating him.
 
I saw this earlier and I believe it is innocuous. She wasn't socializing with the Patty's, this was a community event.

Referencing the citations for this one ... it appears to be about Judges' use of social media and the appearance of bias. ABA ethical rules stuff.
 
Referencing the citations for this one ... it appears to be about Judges' use of social media and the appearance of bias. ABA ethical rules stuff.
I think the structural issue regarding playing ping pong with defense attorneys is a reason for recusal.

I think the softball is not an issue. That was a comment directed towards her grandchildren. Defense doesn't state those grandchildren live with her.
 
I think the structural issue regarding playing ping pong with defense attorneys is a reason for recusal.

I think the softball is not an issue. That was a comment directed towards her grandchildren. Defense doesn't state those grandchildren live with her.
Fortunately, the ethical bars for US Judges are very high. Here's my (quick) understanding on this. That high bar is necessary b/c they really answer to no one on a day to day basis, yet their rulings change people's lives forever. So the APPEARANCE of bias is such a very big deal that that obligation to recuse even if there's an appearance ... even if its just your grandchildren getting awards from the victim's parents during the murder trial brought for those victims ... Judges are expected to either be fully transparent and ask both sides if they have any concerns at all, and if one side has an issue, they are ethically bound to recuse. JMHO
 
Fortunately, the ethical bars for US Judges are very high. Here's my (quick) understanding on this. That high bar is necessary b/c they really answer to no one on a day to day basis, yet their rulings change people's lives forever. So the APPEARANCE of bias is such a very big deal that that obligation to recuse even if there's an appearance ... even if its just your grandchildren getting awards from the victim's parents during the murder trial brought for those victims ... Judges are expected to either be fully transparent and ask both sides if they have any concerns at all, and if one side has an issue, they are ethically bound to recuse. JMHO
My quick understanding is the familial bias applies to spouses and children living in the same household with the judge. I'm sure you will overrule me. :ROFLMAO:
 
My quick understanding is the familial bias applies to spouses and children living in the same household with the judge. I'm sure you will overrule me. :ROFLMAO:
No, that's fine. I love :love: that you researched it! Okay, then they emphasize the Judge's social media rules or guidelines. Whatever that is.
I said that this one was the twist I wasn't expecting ... LOL!
 

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