MO LISA IRWIN: Missing from Kansas City, MO - 3 Oct 2011 - Age 10 months

Lisa was last seen at her home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue in Kansas City, Missouri on October 3, 2011. Her mother, Deborah Bradley, put her to bed in her crib with her pacifier, blanket and some toys.

Deborah last saw her daughter at either 6:40 or 10:30 p.m. (Accounts differ.) That evening, she was also caring for the Lisa's two older half-brothers, who were asleep in another room. She later admitted she'd been drinking wine that night and had gotten drunk. She was also taking prescription medication for anxiety.

Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, an electrician, came home from work at approximately 4:00 the next morning and they discovered Lisa was gone. Several lights in the house were on, Lisa's bedroom window was open, the front door was unlocked and three cellular phones were reportedly missing.

Lisa's parents called 911 to report her disappearance shortly at 4:00 a.m. An extensive search of the immediate area turned up no sign of the baby.

Authorities stated Lisa's mother and father were less than cooperative with the investigation, something Deborah and Jeremy denied. They were engaged to be married at the time of Lisa's disappearance, although Deborah was still legally married to another man, and had a six-year-old son by him.

Deborah and her husband had been separated for about four years by 2010, and he was serving in the Army. Her husband stated he didn't believe Deborah would have harmed Lisa or been involved in her disappearance.

Three different witnesses saw a man walking down the road about three miles from Lisa's home at approximately 4:00 a.m. that night, carrying a baby dressed only in a diaper. It's unclear whether the sightings are connected to Lisa's case.

Authorities haven't named any suspects in the child's disappearance. Her parents have stated they believe she was abducted from her home late on October 3 or early on October 4, possibly by a person who wanted to raise a baby. Lisa's case remains unsolved.


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Have you seen this child? Lisa Irwin

Missing From: KANSAS CITY, MO. Missing Date: Oct 3, 2011 12:00:00 AM. Lisa's photo is shown age-progressed to 7 years. She was last seen at home on October 3, 2011 at approximately 6:00 p.m. Lisa has a birthmark on her right thigh. She was last known to be wearing purple pants and a purple shirt...

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Lisa has a birthmark on her right outer thigh. Two of her bottom teeth had erupted by the time of her disappearance, and she had a small bug bite under her left ear. Her nickname is Pumpkin Pie. She was last known to be wearing purple pants and a purple shirt with kittens on it.

LISA IRWIN is still missing from Kansas City, MO since 3 Oct 2011. She was only 10 mos. old when she disappeared.

Lisa was last seen at her home in Kansas City, Missouri. Her mother, Deborah Bradley, put her to bed in her crib with her pacifier, blanket and some toys. She later admitted she'd been drinking wine that night and had gotten drunk. She was also...

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[Regina]

yes, one in front of the baby's house and one at the house near One Eyed Jacks where Spellman found her staying.

Just thinking, this makes 4 houses right off N Brighton that we know of her staying at. She sure seemed to like the area.

The one she is claiming she stayed at that night is just north of the one Spellman found her at. Then there's the townhouse and then right before that, there was one in between 38th&39th on Brighton that, if you guys remember, was the one with the interview with the guy with the fur rimmed hat. All within about 4-6 weeks time.

The only reason I think she might lie about where she was staying that night would be to protect the other people who still lived there.

 

[Guess Who]

The only reason I think she might lie about where she was staying that night would be to protect the other people who still lived there.

I didn't say she was lying about where she was staying. I just said she was there up until at least the weekend prior at the townhouses but now she's saying she wasn't at that house, but further up N Brighton. She stayed at the house between 38th &39th a few weeks prior to the townhouses (furry hat guy and where Megyn Kelly wrongly stated she was at that night) and was behind One Eyed Jacks within a week or so when Jim Spellman caught up to her. She might not even know where she was that night if they were as strung out as she was claiming in her Megyn interview (but denied doing any in her 2011 interviews).

 

[Guess Who]

I'm just trying to ascertain where she was living the night Lisa was abducted and from what I gather, I think it must have been somewhere west of Lister Ave.

Nevermind. You see, Megan's commented that she and Tanko used to walk "through the neighborhood to get to Tanko's friends' house on Chelsea", which I took to mean from the other side of Lister to where Tanko did yardwork but I now realize that that was before they broke up...

Every address that we know of puts her EAST of N Lister. Brighton is east of Lister.

 

[Guess Who]

I'm just trying to ascertain where she was living the night Lisa was abducted and from what I gather, I think it must have been somewhere west of Lister Ave.

Nevermind. You see, Megan's commented that she and Tanko used to walk "through the neighborhood to get to Tanko's friends' house on Chelsea", which I took to mean from the other side of Lister to where Tanko did yardwork but I now realize that that was before they broke up...

He was aquainted with several people on Chelsea and Chelsea is where the Watson house is. Others on both sides of Watson's were aquainted with him, too, including the sons of one of them (the neighbor that claimed he was a "talented landscaper". And Chelsea is also east of Lister.

 

[Guess Who]

Megan's consistent comment of "leaving her phone upstairs for other's to use" and "partying in the basement" makes much more sense of her NOT being in the townhouses. I was always kind of stuck on that comment because of this. The townhouses don't have a basement and the upstairs is only bedrooms. The living and kitchen areas are on the lower level. it's the kitchen and the back bedrooms upstairs that you can see directly into from Watson's elevated back yard. Depending on which unit she was in, you might be able to see through the kitchen and part of the living room.

the home on 44th fits that description much better.

 

[Guess Who]

I found a piece I don't remember seeing at the time but it's Ron Rugen (shudder) asking Megan question and is pretty enlightening.

Also noted that Jersey absconded from the halfway house on Mulberry. One that has open doors so "inmates" are encouraged to go seek work and only required to be back at night. That's the one I was assuming he was at, but it was not from knowledge.

Private Investigator Reporter: The Baby Lisa Irwin Investigation: Megan Wright Reacts to Dane

 

[Regina]

He was aquainted with several people on Chelsea and Chelsea is where the Watson house is. Others on both sides of Watson's were aquainted with him, too, including the sons of one of them (the neighbor that claimed he was a "talented landscaper". And Chelsea is also east of Lister.

Right, now as to the husband / wife witnesses on Chelsea, I'm having trouble with their info and need to know why the husband wanted the wife to call the police.
Do you know whether there's info directly from her available somewhere? I've looked but haven't found the whole video where Spellman (I think it was) was with her and she's standing at the window, appearing to explain what she saw.

 

[Guess Who]

Right, now as to the husband / wife witnesses on Chelsea, I'm having trouble with their info and need to know why the husband wanted the wife to call the police.
Do you know whether there's info directly from her available somewhere? I've looked but haven't found the whole video where Spellman (I think it was) was with her and she's standing at the window, appearing to explain what she saw.

Most of the links I have don't work any more.

I did see a video posted on here that shows her at the window explaining but not sure if it's the one you are talking about. It's been in the last couple of days. Not sure if it's one I posted or not.

 

[Guess Who]

Right, now as to the husband / wife witnesses on Chelsea, I'm having trouble with their info and need to know why the husband wanted the wife to call the police.
Do you know whether there's info directly from her available somewhere? I've looked but haven't found the whole video where Spellman (I think it was) was with her and she's standing at the window, appearing to explain what she saw.

I think the video you are talking about is on one of the new MK videos. That's where I think I saw it lately.

 

[Regina]

Megan's consistent comment of "leaving her phone upstairs for other's to use" and "partying in the basement" makes much more sense of her NOT being in the townhouses. I was always kind of stuck on that comment because of this. The townhouses don't have a basement and the upstairs is only bedrooms. The living and kitchen areas are on the lower level. it's the kitchen and the back bedrooms upstairs that you can see directly into from Watson's elevated back yard. Depending on which unit she was in, you might be able to see through the kitchen and part of the living room.

the home on 44th fits that description much better.

I found a piece I don't remember seeing at the time but it's Ron Rugen (shudder) asking Megan question and is pretty enlightening.

Also noted that Jersey absconded from the halfway house on Mulberry. One that has open doors so "inmates" are encouraged to go seek work and only required to be back at night. That's the one I was assuming he was at, but it was not from knowledge.

Private Investigator Reporter: The Baby Lisa Irwin Investigation: Megan Wright Reacts to Dane

That last piece was very interesting and offered some much needed insight and while the chronology wasn't always easy for me to follow, overall, the info did offer some clarity.
Thanks for posting that!

Now, I think it's been longer than you think since Megan lived or spent a few nights or whatever) in those townhome apts but I wonder if you've had the same thought as I have that it could have been someone who still lived there who (also) had Megan's number.

 

[Guess Who]

That last piece was very interesting and offered some much need insight and while the chronology wasn't always easy for me to follow not , overall, the info did offer some clarity.
Thanks for posting that!

Now, I think it's been longer than you think since Megan lived or spent a few nights or whatever) in those townhome apts but I wonder if you've had the same thought as I have that it could have been someone who still lived there who (also) had Megan's number.

Nope. I believe my friend that lived right there.

I am not following you on the megan's number thing.

 

[Regina]

Most of the links I have don't work any more.

I did see a video posted on here that shows her at the window explaining but not sure if it's the one you are talking about. It's been in the last couple of days. Not sure if it's one I posted or not.

I think the video you are talking about is on one of the new MK videos. That's where I think I saw it lately.

Well, about that sighting, I do believe there was a man and he was probably carrying something but I question whether it was actually a baby...

 

[Guess Who]

That last piece was very interesting and offered some much need insight and while the chronology wasn't always easy for me to follow not , overall, the info did offer some clarity.
Thanks for posting that!

Now, I think it's been longer than you think since Megan lived or spent a few nights or whatever) in those townhome apts but I wonder if you've had the same thought as I have that it could have been someone who still lived there who (also) had Megan's number.

Notice how Megan denied any drug use? Yeah, I don't believe a word she says any more. Her story is changing and not in the just not remembering the exact details kind of thing.

 

[Guess Who]

Well, about that sighting, I do believe there was a man and he was probably carrying something but I question whether it was actually a baby...

Why is that? It was right under a street light and her husband was out in his car right there and they described the baby. The husband would have been just on the other side of the road but sitting in the drivers seat would make him nearly in the middle of the road, right? That would make him possibly less than 10 ft away.

 

[Regina]

Nope. I believe my friend that lived right there.

I am not following you on the megan's number thing.

Sorry, what isn't clear?

 

[Guess Who]

My link itself doesn't work now but I have one that said something about Megan stating Jersey's friend on Chelsea they would go visit and his name was Denny. That would be Denny Watson, the yard Tanko was watering.

 

[Regina]

Why is that? It was right under a street light and her husband was out in his car right there and they described the baby. The husband would have been just on the other side of the road but sitting in the drivers seat would make him nearly in the middle of the road, right? That would make him possibly less than 10 ft away.

Because I've only heard the wife describe and demonstrate how the man held "a baby" close, which isn't enough to convince me that he was, in actual fact, carrying a baby.
Did they ever say they considered offering the man a ride? You know, that's what Thompson said crossed his mind when he said he saw the same thing.

 

[Guess Who]

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Because I've only heard the wife describe and demonstrate how the man held "a baby" close, which isn't enough to convince me that it was in actual fact, carrying a baby.
Did they ever say they considered offering the man a ride? You know, that's what Thompson said crossed his mind when he said he saw the same thing.

When I've walked cranky babies at night, nobody ever thought to ask to give me a ride. Why would they when they are just walking through a neighborhood and going into a yard that they might belong to? The sighting on Randoph, the guy did ask and that one makes much more sense to ask since they were walking out in the middle basically nowhere. Why would they ask in a subdivision when the person is walking into a yard?

We also haven't heard exactly what the husband describe what he saw and only her. How do we know that he didn't describe an actual baby to LE?

 

[Kimster]

Right, now as to the husband / wife witnesses on Chelsea, I'm having trouble with their info and need to know why the husband wanted the wife to call the police.
Do you know whether there's info directly from her available somewhere? I've looked but haven't found the whole video where Spellman (I think it was) was with her and she's standing at the window, appearing to explain what she saw.

I remember when I was married and my ex always wanted me to pick up the phone and make his phone calls. And my boss’s husband is the same way. I don’t know if he knows how to even call somebody because always has his wife do it. Maybe that’s what this guy was doing.

 

[Regina]

I remember when I was married and my ex always wanted me to pick up the phone and make his phone calls. And my boss’s husband is the same way. I don’t know if he knows how to even call somebody because always has his wife do it. Maybe that’s what this guy was doing.

I'm not questioning why the husband didn't call the police himself, I'm questioning why call the police, period.