MO LISA IRWIN: Missing from Kansas City, MO - 3 Oct 2011 - Age 10 months

Lisa was last seen at her home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue in Kansas City, Missouri on October 3, 2011. Her mother, Deborah Bradley, put her to bed in her crib with her pacifier, blanket and some toys.

Deborah last saw her daughter at either 6:40 or 10:30 p.m. (Accounts differ.) That evening, she was also caring for the Lisa's two older half-brothers, who were asleep in another room. She later admitted she'd been drinking wine that night and had gotten drunk. She was also taking prescription medication for anxiety.

Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, an electrician, came home from work at approximately 4:00 the next morning and they discovered Lisa was gone. Several lights in the house were on, Lisa's bedroom window was open, the front door was unlocked and three cellular phones were reportedly missing.

Lisa's parents called 911 to report her disappearance shortly at 4:00 a.m. An extensive search of the immediate area turned up no sign of the baby.

Authorities stated Lisa's mother and father were less than cooperative with the investigation, something Deborah and Jeremy denied. They were engaged to be married at the time of Lisa's disappearance, although Deborah was still legally married to another man, and had a six-year-old son by him.

Deborah and her husband had been separated for about four years by 2010, and he was serving in the Army. Her husband stated he didn't believe Deborah would have harmed Lisa or been involved in her disappearance.

Three different witnesses saw a man walking down the road about three miles from Lisa's home at approximately 4:00 a.m. that night, carrying a baby dressed only in a diaper. It's unclear whether the sightings are connected to Lisa's case.

Authorities haven't named any suspects in the child's disappearance. Her parents have stated they believe she was abducted from her home late on October 3 or early on October 4, possibly by a person who wanted to raise a baby. Lisa's case remains unsolved.


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Have you seen this child? Lisa Irwin

Missing From: KANSAS CITY, MO. Missing Date: Oct 3, 2011 12:00:00 AM. Lisa's photo is shown age-progressed to 7 years. She was last seen at home on October 3, 2011 at approximately 6:00 p.m. Lisa has a birthmark on her right thigh. She was last known to be wearing purple pants and a purple shirt...

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Charley Project -

Lisa Renee Irwin – The Charley Project

Wikipedia -

Disappearance of Lisa Irwin - Wikipedia

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Lisa has a birthmark on her right outer thigh. Two of her bottom teeth had erupted by the time of her disappearance, and she had a small bug bite under her left ear. Her nickname is Pumpkin Pie. She was last known to be wearing purple pants and a purple shirt with kittens on it.

LISA IRWIN is still missing from Kansas City, MO since 3 Oct 2011. She was only 10 mos. old when she disappeared.

Lisa was last seen at her home in Kansas City, Missouri. Her mother, Deborah Bradley, put her to bed in her crib with her pacifier, blanket and some toys. She later admitted she'd been drinking wine that night and had gotten drunk. She was also...

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[Guess Who]

Just got into episode 1 and I think i just heard the best quote ever. "interrogation is not investigation... and is only a means of intimidation".

 

[Guess Who]

One other quick thing I noticed is that I am even more set in my opinion that nobody should ever go to the station without representation. They can ask me any questions anywhere else if they so desire to ask actual questions. They don't need to be in the confines of an interrogation room for me to answer your questions. ESPECIALLY if I am innocent!

 

[Guess Who]

on Megan episode and Megan is either lying now or at the time about he phones. At the time she stated that she was on her phone checking her food stamp upload while she was at waffle house so they could go to walmart. Now she's stating that she didn't have her phone on her and didn't get it back until she got back to her house after walmart and the logs were wiped. Hmmmmm.

She;s also stating that that night was the last time she used drugs - ever. Nope. She lost her son that she had afterwards because of her drug use.

 

[Guess Who]

Bawhaha! Cyndi Short's description of Jersey "he looked like a sophisticated consumer of the criminal justice system"

 

[Guess Who]

Here is what MW was saying about her situation at the time. The original posts are long gone but I found a copy of it here. Then stating something 100% different about both her drug use and her phone.

10-month old baby Lisa Irwin missing since 3 October 2011 - Page 17

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So Wright turned to creating her own page, “Megan Q&A, Baby Lisa”

“I'm so tired of struggling to answer questions, people asking the same questions etc...,” Wright posted. “It's getting a little too absurd for me.”

“So please bare [sic] with me, give me like 10 minutes,” Wright wrote Facebook members on the Justice for Lisa Irwin page. “Then I'll post a link. Thanks for letting me preserve the last little scrap of my sanity.”

Wright posted new details on her page and answered questions about drug use and the living situation.

“No, I was not on meth,” Wright wrote on Facebook. “I went to the Waffle House around 3:00 a.m. because I was irritated about the situation with my phone and my friend thought it would be good for me to get away. Any more questions about my actions that night?”

Wright had been in a relationship with a handyman police questioned in the case and shared her phone with the man she says used it the night Baby Lisa disappeared.

Many posters are asking her whether either of the men would be capable of being involved in Baby Lisa’s disappearance.

“I refuse to speculate on who did anything,” Wright writes. “That's how my name got thrown in the gutter, people making assumptions and not thinking first. I do believe that he had my phone all night. But other than that, I'm not sure. Just because he had my phone doesn't make him guilty of anything.”

“After I got my food stamps at 6 a.m. I did a little shopping,” Wright wrote. “I took a nap when I got home, and ended up feeling rather sick and stayed in bed most of the next day. Any more questions about my actions that night?"

According to her posts, she left her phone in a different part of the house and didn’t notice anything unusual until several hours later.

“I went looking for my phone at some point,” Wright posted on Facebook. “It was brought to me by a friend and I noticed that my call logs and messages had been deleted. I went on a rant, asking who had it and why my things were deleted.”

She wrote that she doesn’t know whether the man who used her phone knows the Irwin family, but said several people in the home had access to the phone.

“There were eight people living in the house, and that got warped into 7 other people having access to my phone,” Wright wrote. “There were 5 adults and 3 kids [with another on the way] plus various friends of house members who frequently used my phone.”

For updates on the Baby Lisa Case, follow @russptacek on Twitter or “like” KSHB Russ Ptacek on Facebook.

 

[Guess Who]

and while I was looking back at some of the original interviews that are still available, I found this little gem. For those claiming that KCPD cleared Jersey, here is what was ACTUALLY said

“We're satisfied at the moment and we're moving on. That's not to say something may change later where we would like to speak to [him] again. That's why I'm staying away from the word 'cleared.' Really, truly, the investigation is wide open. We aren't ruling anything out yet,” said Kansas City spokesperson Steve Young to People Magazine regarding Jersey.

 

[Guess Who]

I’m leaning this way as well. I think she knows more but I don’t think she’s involved either. There’s a group of people keeping secrets.

A group of people who's lives revolve around keeping secrets.

 

[Regina]

Re the debit card charges, below is a clip from the Today Show where Jeremy and Deborah (eventually...@3:23) appeared with their attorney.
I remember the info that besides that phone call to Megan's number, there was "attempted" access to other features of the phone and I wonder if that's where / how Jeremy's card info was obtained.

https://www.today.com/video/stolen-debit-card-charge-a-clue-in-baby-lisa-case-44554307549

 

[Guess Who]

Re the debit card charges, below is a clip from the Today Show where Jeremy and Deborah (eventually...@3:23) appeared with their attorney.
I remember the info that besides that phone call to Megan's number, there was "attempted" access to other features of the phone and I wonder if that's where / how Jeremy's card info was obtained.

https://www.today.com/video/stolen-debit-card-charge-a-clue-in-baby-lisa-case-44554307549

Back then there weren't many apps on phones. The family didn't have iPhones and back then you had to have a data plan to be able to get online. If the phones didn't work, neither did data back then. They "might" have gotten it from the one that did work but it wasn't their phone, it was borrowed from a family member so it more than likely had the family members bank info if it had any bank info on it

My guess is it was from somebody where they used their card at and not related. Just somebody messing with them.

 

[Kimster]

One other quick thing I noticed is that I am even more set in my opinion that nobody should ever go to the station without representation. They can ask me any questions anywhere else if they so desire to ask actual questions. They don't need to be in the confines of an interrogation room for me to answer your questions. ESPECIALLY if I am innocent!

I said that to one of the investigative deputies before he retired and he said that makes cops feel more suspicious. I’d still want an attorney.

 

[Kimster]

on Megan episode and Megan is either lying now or at the time about he phones. At the time she stated that she was on her phone checking her food stamp upload while she was at waffle house so they could go to walmart. Now she's stating that she didn't have her phone on her and didn't get it back until she got back to her house after walmart and the logs were wiped. Hmmmmm.

She;s also stating that that night was the last time she used drugs - ever. Nope. She lost her son that she had afterwards because of her drug use.

I absolutely do not believe that that was the last night she used drugs. That’s where she lost me during the interview. Talk like that makes me think she’s still using.

 

[Regina]

Back then there weren't many apps on phones. The family didn't have iPhones and back then you had to have a data plan to be able to get online. If the phones didn't work, neither did data back then. They "might" have gotten it from the one that did work but it wasn't their phone, it was borrowed from a family member so it more than likely had the family members bank info if it had any bank info on it

My guess is it was from somebody where they used their card at and not related. Just somebody messing with them.

That's the first I've heard that the Megan#- phone belonged to a family member. Where does that come from?
Now, in the following interview with reporters, Deborah said that only one of the three phones wasn't working.
It's @4:44

 

[Guess Who]

I said that to one of the investigative deputies before he retired and he said that makes cops feel more suspicious. I’d still want an attorney.

They can feel all the suspicious they do and I am still going to get one. They don't want you to get one because then it is harder for them to lie to you and twist what you are saying. That is what they are afraid of and why they don't want you to get one and also exactly why I would feel the need for one. I dont' care about their feelings.

 

[Guess Who]

I absolutely do not believe that that was the last night she used drugs. That’s where she lost me during the interview. Talk like that makes me think she’s still using.

She is definitely lying. She had parole violations for drugs multiple times in her case for losing her son.

 

[Guess Who]

That's the first I've heard that the Megan#- phone belonged to a family member. Where does that come from?
Now, in the following interview with reporters, Deborah said that only one of the three phones wasn't working.
It's @4:44

I never said Megan's phone belonged to a family member. The one of the phones that was stolen came from a family member of Lisa's that they were borrowing until they got theirs restored.

 

[Guess Who]

I never said Megan's phone belonged to a family member. The one of the phones that was stolen came from a family member of Lisa's that they were borrowing until they got theirs restored.

further delving into this, this borrowed phone came from DBs grandfather. No links because it came from an old fb post that either no longer exists or I can't find since I don't do fb. This info came from waaaaaaay back in the early days and was not an unknown thing at the time.

@askfornina most likely has the info linked to this since my info came directly from her in the early days.
She had a huge database built up on this case with so many links and many do not work now.

 

[Guess Who]

Here is what I have on an old email when we were discussing it. I have no link at the moment. It's from an old fb post

Debbie's cell phone had been acting up and the speakers and microphone on it were continually only working intermittently. So Sunday October 2 my Dad gave Debbie his old plain jane phone that has NO way to collect contact information on it. Debbie transferred the service from her old phone to the one that my Dad (her Grandpa) gave her.When she went home later that night she had both of her phones out and started coping numbers one by one into the phone she got from her Grandpa. She didn't get them all done of course so she left them on the table. Jeremy's PERSONAL cell phone was also on the table. These 3 phones were the ones that were stolen

 

[Guess Who]

That's the first I've heard that the Megan#- phone belonged to a family member. Where does that come from?
Now, in the following interview with reporters, Deborah said that only one of the three phones wasn't working.
It's @4:44

yes, one phone was not working at all. Not just the non payment issue.

 

[Regina]

I never said Megan's phone belonged to a family member. The one of the phones that was stolen came from a family member of Lisa's that they were borrowing until they got theirs restored.

Sorry, by "Megan#-phone", I meant the phone that called Megan's number.

 

[Regina]

For reference:

1 Lisa's house
2 witness that saw a man carrying a baby
3 yard where witness saw man carrying baby entered, which is also the yard that jersey was taking care of while the owner was out of town.
4 where megan and dane were staying
5 dumpster that was on fire that morning a few hours before she was reported missing.
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Based on news video from the time, 2 appears to me it should be 3617 N. Chelsea, which is on the other side of the street.
I'm doubting whether 4 is accurate because I don't think Megan was living in the immediate vicinity of the dumpster fire.