Oxford, MI School Shooting *Ethan Crumbley GUILTY PLEA* - *Mom & Dad GUILTY of manslaughter*

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The trial for James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parent of Oxford High School shooter Ethan, will head to trial in January.

On Monday, Ethan Crumbley pleaded guilty to all charges against him including four counts of murder, one count of terrorism, seven counts of assault with intent to murder, and 12 counts of possession of a firearm while in the commission of a felony.

He signed his plea agreement last week, giving up his right to a trial. But it will have no impact on the upcoming trial for his parents, James and Jennifer.

According to the Oakland County Circuit Court, jury selection for the trial of James and Jennifer is set for Jan. 17 after the initial hearing was delayed due to motion hearings.


James and Jennifer Crumbley have fought to have charges against them thrown out, with their attorneys arguing that they couldn't have known what their son was allegedly planning.

However, during Ethan's guilty plea hearing on Monday, he said that he asked James to buy him the gun used in the shooting and gave money to his father to do so. This will likely be used against the Crumbley parents during their January trial.
 

Prosecutor seeks life without parole for Oxford school shooter Ethan Crumbley​

If prosecutors have their way, 16-year-old Ethan Crumbley will spend the rest of his life in prison for killing four students at Oxford High School and injuring six other students and a teacher in a mass shooting last fall that terrorized a community that is still struggling to recover.

In a court filing Monday, the Oakland County Prosecutor's Office sought a life sentence with no chance for parole for Crumbley, who pleaded guilty last month to all the crimes with which he was charged, including first-degree murder and terrorism.

"As we previously stated, there have been no plea bargains, no charge reductions, and no sentence agreements," Chief Assistant Prosecutor David Williams said in a statement Tuesday. "The shooter has been offered and promised nothing. The motion filed (Monday) is a formal declaration of our intent to seek the maximum possible sentence in this case."

Crumbley is scheduled to be sentenced in February, though because he is a teenager, he is entitled to a so-called Miller hearing to determine whether life without parole is appropriate.
 

MI Supreme Court pauses case against James & Jennifer Crumbley in Oxford shooting​

The Michigan Supreme Court has issued a stay on the involuntary manslaughter cases against James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley.

In an order released on Tuesday, the Michigan Supreme Court paused the trial and sent the case back to the Michigan Court of Appeals to see if there was enough evidence for James and Jennifer to be bound over for trial.

The Crumbleys were expected to go to trial on the charges in January, but this ruling will likely delay the trial from starting.
 

Prosecutors: Our case against Crumbley parents is stronger than ever​

In an effort to keep James and Jennifer Crumbley locked up, the prosecution has disclosed new evidence that it says shows the couple to be a greater flight risk than ever before and strengthens the novel case against the Oxford school shooter's parents.


The Crumbleys have consistently maintained the gun was locked in a drawer. But when their son pleaded guilty in October, he said he had access to it. "It was not locked," he said.

"That statement came under oath from a witness the (Crumbleys) have endorsed, and from the one person who knows better than anyone else how he got the gun — their son," the prosecution argues in its filing, which is a response to the Crumbleys' request this week that they be released on a lower bond.

It is their sixth such request. All five have been previously denied.

The prosecution argues this one should be, too.

"The case against the (Crumbleys) is stronger now that it was at the time of any prior bond review," Friday's filing said, noting that more evidence has yet to come out. "As the court and counsel are aware, the (prosecutors) did not, and never do, present all their evidence at a preliminary examination."
 

Prosecutors: Our case against Crumbley parents is stronger than ever​

In an effort to keep James and Jennifer Crumbley locked up, the prosecution has disclosed new evidence that it says shows the couple to be a greater flight risk than ever before and strengthens the novel case against the Oxford school shooter's parents.


The Crumbleys have consistently maintained the gun was locked in a drawer. But when their son pleaded guilty in October, he said he had access to it. "It was not locked," he said.

"That statement came under oath from a witness the (Crumbleys) have endorsed, and from the one person who knows better than anyone else how he got the gun — their son," the prosecution argues in its filing, which is a response to the Crumbleys' request this week that they be released on a lower bond.

It is their sixth such request. All five have been previously denied.

The prosecution argues this one should be, too.

"The case against the (Crumbleys) is stronger now that it was at the time of any prior bond review," Friday's filing said, noting that more evidence has yet to come out. "As the court and counsel are aware, the (prosecutors) did not, and never do, present all their evidence at a preliminary examination."
I didn't know that about the preliminary examination.
 

Hours after the prosecution filed its request, Oakland County Circuit Judge Cheryl Matthews issued an order stating that she did not have the authority to decide the Crumbleys' bond request, saying it's a matter for the Michigan Court of Appeals, where the fate of the case is now pending.

Meanwhile, according to the prosecutor's filings, here is what makes B.J. a bad option for housing the Crumbleys as they continue to fight for their release:

  • In May, the Port Huron police filed a harassment complaint against B.J, alleging he faked being transgender to get into a women's locker room to make threatening statements. He wore a "transwoman" T-shirt to the gym and asked a front desk employee which bathroom he could use. Then he became upset because he was "tired of this woke s---." No charges were filed.
  • In 2020, a bench warrant for his arrest was active for nearly six months over his failure to appear at a creditor's exam in Sanilac County Circuit Court.
  • In 2017, he unsuccessfully tried to get permission to use his home as a large-scale marijuana grow facility, acknowledging that he has been growing 72 pot plants on his property for a period of a year.
  • B.J. has expressed "extremist views" on Facebook, including "the virus is killing people left and write," "The Biden administration is trafficking children for sex and cheap labor" and "Ye said the Jews control the money so the IRS freezes his bank accounts."
 
Faking "Transgender". Pervert. Well the I.R.S. Isn't the issue. Freezing your accounts. If they are. You don't need it in prison. Virus killing people left and right. And "Biden" Is trafficking kids. Paranoid delusions. So how does this pertain to you shooting kids and others atva school. YOU were killing people left and right.
 

By AILEEN WINGBLAD | awingblad@medianewsgroup.com | Macomb Daily
PUBLISHED: February 10, 2023 at 10:10 a.m. | UPDATED: February 10, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.

An Oakland County judge has again ruled that school shooter Ethan Crumbley will remain in the Oakland County Jail rather than be transferred to Children’s Village, the county’s juvenile facility.

At the monthly placement hearing Friday morning held via Zoom, Oakland County Circuit Judge Kwame Rowe said he “continues to believe it’s in the interest of justice to continue defendant’s placement in the Oakland County Jail.”

The judge made the ruling after the prosecution and Crumbley’s defense attorney Paulette Loftin said they had no updates to share.

Crumbley, 16, pleaded guilty last Oct. 24 to all 24 felony charges he faced in connection with the Nov. 30, 2021 mass shooting at Oxford High School where four students were killed and several others, including a teacher, were wounded. His sentencing hearing hasn’t been scheduled yet as a “Miller hearing” must be conducted prior — and that hasn’t been scheduled yet either. A Miller hearing is required for all juveniles possibly facing a sentence of life in prison, which the Oakland County Prosecutor’s Office said it’s seeking. At the hearing, the judge will hear arguments from the prosecution to support a life sentence and from the defense in favor of a term of years with the possibility of parole for Crumbley.
 

Michigan judge dismisses all suits against Oxford school district over deadly 2021 mass shooting​

A Michigan Circuit Court judge dismissed all lawsuits filed against the Oxford Community School District in connection with a 2021 school shooting at Oxford High, claiming that the district and its employees have governmental immunity and cannot be sued as the shooter is the most direct cause of the attack, ABC News reported.

Nearly a dozen lawsuits were filed by filed by victims and families of victims of the shooting, accusing the school district and several school employees of negligence, gross negligence and violation of the Child Protection Law, among other claims.

Several lawsuits have alleged that accused school shooter Ethan Crumbley had exhibited "concerning behavior that indicated psychiatric distress, suicidal or homicidal tendencies and the possibility of child abuse and neglect," but the school did not act appropriately. The suits argue that school officials failed to act appropriately to prevent violence when the teenage shooter exhibited several warning signs leading up to the shooting.


The school district has claimed that civil lawsuits filed against it, alleging Fourth Amendment violations, are barred because the district has governmental immunity. Governmental immunity shields government agencies from legal liability if the agency is "engaged in the exercise or discharge of a governmental function," according to court documents.

In her decision, Oakland County Circuit Judge Mary Ellen Brennan said the conduct of the school district and its employees who were named in the suit were not the "proximate cause" of the victims' injuries.

Brennan ruled that Crumbley's act of firing the gun was the most "immediate, efficient and direct cause of the injury or damage," not the actions of the district and school employees, arguing that their conduct did not cause immediate harm to the plaintiffs.
 

Posted at 7:33 AM, Mar 07, 2023
and last updated 8:50 AM, Mar 07, 2023
(WXYZ) — A court hearing scheduled for Tuesday morning in the Michigan Court of Appeals will determine whether or not James and Jennifer Crumbley will stand trial in the Oxford High School shooting.

James and Jennifer, the parents of Ethan Crumbley, who pleaded guilty to the shooting at the school that killed four students and injured seven other people, are each charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter.
 

By Amy Lange and FOX 2 Staff
Published March 7, 2023 5:44PM

OXFORD, Mich. (FOX 2) - Parents of Oxford High School shooting victims say they are appealing after a judge ruled that school employees could not be sued civilly last week.

"Four kids were murdered and everybody gets to throw their hands up in the air. How effed up is that?" Buck Myre said.
 

Hannah Mackay
The Detroit News
March 17, 2023

Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley will remain in the Oakland County Jail and his sentencing hearing was tentatively scheduled for June 2 at a virtual hearing Friday morning before Oakland County Circuit Court Judge Kwame Rowe.

The Miller hearing, which must take place before sentencing a juvenile to life without parole, will take place in person at 9 a.m. once the prosecutors confirm that June 2 works for them, Rowe said.

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In the 2012 case of Miller v. Alabama, the United States Supreme Court ruled that mandatory life sentences without the possibility of parole were unconstitutional for juveniles who committed homicides. During a Miller hearing attorneys can present evidence about their client's character and life circumstances that they believe should be considered at sentencing. These factors can include the client's family, home environment, peer pressure, failure to appreciate risks and consequences, past criminal behavior, remorse and the possibility of rehabilitation.

Friday's review hearing was required by law since Crumbley is 16 years old and currently held in the Oakland County jail, an adult facility. Review hearings must take place every 30 days and the next one is scheduled at 9 a.m. April 14.

Crumbley, his attorneys and the prosecutors were present via Zoom and said there was no new information related to Crumbley's placement at the jail.
 

ByEmily Shapiro, Will McDuffie, and Peter Charalambous
March 23, 2023, 11:16 AM


The parents of Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley will stand trial for their alleged role in the attack, a three-judge panel with the Michigan Court of Appeals has ruled.

Jennifer and James Crumbley have pleaded not guilty to four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the Nov. 30, 2021 mass shooting at Oxford High School.

Their son, Ethan Crumbley, who was 15 at the time, allegedly used James Crumbley's semi-automatic handgun to kill four students and injure several others.

Jennifer and James Crumbley are accused of making the gun accessible and failing to recognize warning signs.

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Video at link. ~Summer
 

Crumbley parents banned from son's hearing: They just want to silence him, prosecutor says​

Against their wishes, James and Jennifer Crumbley will not be allowed to attend their son's hearing to determine whether he will have a chance at parole or will spend the rest of his life in prison for a deadly school shooting.

Without explaining why, a judge this week denied the Crumbleys' request to attend their son's so-called Miller hearing — an event that their lawyers argued "is of paramount importance."

"The Crumbleys remain very concerned about their son and ask this court to allow them to attend the Miller hearing," defense attorneys Shannon Smith and Mariell Lehman said in a court filing last month.

Hogwash, countered prosecutors, who blasted the Crumbleys over their request, alleging they want to attend the hearing only because they learned it would include testimony "that would be unfavorable to them."

"This is (the Crumbleys') attempt to confront and/or implore their son not to disclose the full circumstances of his upbringing," Assistant Prosecutor Marc Keast wrote in a blistering court filing, in which he argued against having the Crumbleys at their son's hearing next month.


In doing so, the prosecutor portrayed the Crumbleys as selfish parents looking out for only themselves, alleging they are using their son in an effort to spare themselves from a lengthy prison sentence. He noted the parents face up to 15 years in prison if convicted of involuntary manslaughter for buying their son the gun that he used in the Oxford High School shooting in November 2021. Their 16-year-old son faces a life sentence, without the possibility of parole.

"The idea that they are focused on reducing their own sentence at the expense of their son is shameful," Keast wrote, noting the Crumbleys also plan to call their son as a witness in their case.
 

Cassidy Johncox, Senior News Editor
Published: April 14, 2023 at 9:33 AM
Updated: April 14, 2023 at 10:19 AM

PONTIAC, Mich. – The Oxford High School shooter was once again ordered to remain lodged in jail during Friday’s monthly placement hearing as his sentencing hearing looms.

Each month, the now-16-year-old shooter must appear in court for a hearing in which the judge decides whether to continue to lodge him at the Oakland County Jail instead of a juvenile facility. The shooter’s attorney previously requested that he be moved to a juvenile detention center because he is a minor, but an Oakland County judge denied that request in March 2022 and has since continued to keep the shooter in jail.

Still, the judge’s decision to keep the shooter at the Oakland County Jail must be revisited every 30 days. These hearings will continue until the shooter is sentenced for the 24 felonies that he pleaded guilty to in October 2022, including first-degree murder and terrorism charges.

The shooter appeared before a judge on Friday, April 14, for another placement hearing. He was ordered to remain lodged at the Oakland County Jail once again.

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The prosecutor’s office affirmed then that is has not, and will not, offer sentence agreements or deals to the convicted shooter.

The shooter is expected to face sentencing this year. Before a sentence is handed down, the shooter will first appear for a Miller hearing on July 27, in which the judge will determine if the shooter’s age will have an impact on his sentencing at all.

The Miller hearing was initially scheduled for February, and then moved to June, but the dates did not work for the parties involved. The judge said on April 14 that the Miller hearing is tentatively scheduled for 9 a.m. on July 27.
 

By MATTHEW FAHR | mfahr@medianewsgroup.com | The Oakland Press
PUBLISHED: April 28, 2023 at 12:40 p.m. | UPDATED: April 28, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

The civil lawsuit filed against Jennifer and James Crumbley, parents of Oxford school shooter Ethan, will soon be dismissed in order to expedite the process of moving on to the Michigan Court of Appeals.

According to Ven Johnson, attorney for the victims’ families, a motion has been made before Oakland County Circuit Court Judge Mary Ellen Brennan to remove their names from the civil suit filed in January 2022.

Once the motion is accepted, the case will be dismissed, and Johnson will move on to appeal a ruling made by Brennan in March removing all Oxford employees named in the original suit.
 
This is exactly where the victims are completely forgotten. More on law suits, Plea deals, Insanity pleas, Any excuse to evade responsibility and hold things up. It's sickening.
 

Lily Altavena
Detroit Free Press
May 12, 2023

A federal judge ruled Friday that a lawsuit from family members of victims in the November 2021 Oxford High School shooting can proceed against Oxford Community Schools and two school staff members, while also dismissing seven former and current staff members from the case.

Judge Mark Goldsmith in U.S. District Court in Detroit ruled against requests to dismiss the school district along with Shawn Hopkins — an Oxford counselor at the time — and Nicholas Ejak, then the school's dean of students. Goldsmith wrote that the attorneys for the victims' families have plausibly argued that Hopkins and Ejak knew shooter Ethan Crumbley posed a risk to Oxford and failed to address that risk.

The ruling does not mean the district or the staff members have been found liable, it means that attorneys on both sides can move forward in finding more information, the process of discovery, to try to prove or disprove their case further.
 

Tresa Baldas
Detroit Free Press
May 18, 2023

James and Jennifer Crumbley, the first parents in America charged in a mass school shooting, are appealing to the Michigan Supreme Court, arguing the decision to charge them for a massacre carried out by their son was "clearly erroneous," sets a dangerous precedent and will "cause injustices."

At issue for the Crumbleys is a series of lower-court decisions that essentially concluded there was enough evidence to bind them over for trial on second-degree murder charges for the deadly 2021 Oxford High School shooting that was carried out by their son. Ethan Crumbley, who was 15 at the time, used a gun his parents bought him to shoot up his school, killing four students and leaving seven others injured.

The Crumbleys, who were charged days after the shooting and have been jailed ever since, have repeatedly argued that an Oakland County judge abused her discretion in binding them over for trial. But on March 23, the Michigan Court of Appeals concluded that the judge did not abuse her discretion.

'One cannot predict the unimaginable,' Crumbley lawyers argue​

The Crumbleys, though, are still fighting to avoid that, maintaining that the prosecution cannot prove that they caused the students' deaths, and that the only one responsible for the deaths was their son, who has pleaded guilty to the murders and is awaiting sentencing. Moreover, their lawyers argue that the son's decision to carry out a mass school shooting was not "reasonably foreseeable."
 

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