PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.

Questions abound in SC Murdaugh killing. Among them: Should prosecutor step aside?

Several days after two members of a prominent Hampton County family were fatally shot, questions about what happened still vastly outnumber answers.

www.postandcourier.com

 

[Tresir]

TBH I think the plagiarism is less important than the wiretapping, now we know what was actually being listened to.

It also begs the question, what else was being listened too that we don't know about ?

I think he will definitely get his retrial. Everything smells rotten in this case.

 

[Tresir]

Well I am going the other way. I am finding it harder and harder to feel sorry for her. What WAS she thinking??!!! All know you don't plagiarize and she wanted her book to do well and so she knew she plagiarized NOT for some college essay but in an actual BOOK that would be read by many and this was bound to be found out at some point.

I knew the public had gotten access to her emails at her work email and I was not aware that could be done as wha t if an email related to some other person's case... Not sure how that all worked/works. As I said i watched a show or part of one about a bunch of her emails but I wasn't focused on it and didn't really take much of it in.

What bothers me is I don't trust or believe all re the jurors and the defense and Alex but she is doing nothing but helping them out with her actions and apparently wrongdoing and it just keeps coming. Who knows if what her son was doing relates to her in any way...

The co-author stuck by her throughout and defended both himself, his wife and Hill. Now she has lost him as an ally. Deservedly so I'd say.

This is lawsuit worthy. She is going to be lucky if she has anything left by the time all is over. Or a job.

This woman is not that dumb but apparently felt untouchable, much like a Murdaugh or something. She has worked around the law and courts forever so how the heck could she be so darned stupid??

I'll tell you something else this does, she claims she felt under pressure, like deadline pressure and that's why she did it. Well that just gives more ammo with getting people to believe she DID want a quick verdictt too and the book out by a certain time.

Idiot woman.

Allegedly she didn't just want a quick verdict, she wanted a conviction to sell the book IMO.

"Authorities began investigating Hill for using her office for personal gain" it says.

Just wondering what else is gonna come out?

 

[GrandmaBear]

The access to the emails came from a FOIA request, I believe.

The news about the plagiarism is in all our UK media now. Plus more info in this article below which finally explains about the wiretapping and what was wiretapped. What a sh!tshow !!!!

Who is Becky Hill? Alex Murdaugh court clerk plagiarism controversy explained amid halted sales

Colleton County Clerk of Court Rebecca Hill, also known as Becky Hill, who oversaw the double murder trial of Alex Murdaugh and then co-wrote a book about the case, was recently accused of plagiarism

www.sportskeeda.com

More at link above, but the below extract appears to explain the reason behind the wiretapping.

"Hill has also been linked to a scandal relating to her son, former Colleton County employee Jeff Hill, 34, who was accused of abusing his position to illegally wire-tap a phone conversation. Jeff Hill worked as an Information Technology Director in Colleton County before he was arrested in November on charges of wiretapping.

According to WYFF, a state police investigation discovered Jeff Hill abused his office to listen in on internal county discussions about the formal ethics complaint against his mother, Becky Hill, who is the subject of an ethics investigation.

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Alex Murdaugh accused Becky Hill of influencing jurors​

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The allegations against Becky Hill come in the wake of defense attorneys for Alex Murdaugh demanding a new trial in September after authorities began investigating Hill for using her office for personal gain.

Alex Murdaugh’s Defense attorney alleged during the trial Hill spoke to three jurors. They claimed they had collected affidavits from two jurors alleging Hill had inappropriate discussions that influenced the jury. Hill allegedly also threatened the Jurors with sequestration if they failed to come back with a quick verdict."

So what he did was recent and related to an investigation into his mother... Pretty hard to believe it wasn't done for her and shared with her then...

 

[Tresir]

So what he did was recent and related to an investigation into his mother... Pretty hard to believe it wasn't done for her and shared with her then...

Yes, so the two things are connected according to this article above. See this BBM bit below.

"According to WYFF, a state police investigation discovered Jeff Hill abused his office to listen in on internal county discussions about the formal ethics complaint against his mother, Becky Hill, who is the subject of an ethics investigation."

 

[GrandmaBear]

TBH I think the plagiarism is less important than the wiretapping, now we know what was actually being listened to.

It also begs the question, what else was being listened too that we don't know about ?

I think he will definitely get his retrial. Everything smells rotten in this case.

I have trouble in cases where almost all are rotten. I mean her sh*t just definitely keeps getting worse and keeps coming but it doesn't all of a sudden make me believe what the defense is selling either nor does it mean they and Alex are all of a sudden upstanding moral people and that's what gives me trouble.

No surprise, I mean the b.s. runs deep there and the corruption and it's been said from the start, long before we knew a thing of Hill but let's add her to the mix. I don't doubt there was a witch hunt going on here BUT she AND her son now have provided in spades for the hunt.

It's ironic and sad that she wanted Alex found guilty but she is the one who will have almost single handedly derailed the first trial and conviction. She cost her county a ton and not just in money but in several ways and is no better than Alex in that way.

I don't know if he will get a new trial but he's got the hearing right? I think so if I recall.

As to Becky Hill, there has been just too much now. She has to explain too much and that's always it for me. I don't believe in too many coincidences and so it has come to that point with her for me. I still have doubts about all of the defense claims and that of the jurors but she has again first handedly just made it entirely easier to believe.

It in no way though means Alex is innocent. And some types are quick to think something like this then makes the other party innocent, etc. Kind of similar to Allen in some respects. It does no such thing. If this goes to another trial, I have no doubt Alex will be convicted again IF nothing shady goes on as to judge, jury, more. and corruption by the other side (defense and Alex MURDAUGH).

 

[GrandmaBear]

TBH I think the plagiarism is less important than the wiretapping, now we know what was actually being listened to.

It also begs the question, what else was being listened too that we don't know about ?

I think he will definitely get his retrial. Everything smells rotten in this case.

The plagiarism may not be as important but it is one of the few things that is flat out obvious and she can't dispute and didn't, for that reason, is my guess. That then lends to the fact she will do dirty, illegal, use things to benefit self illegally. Even with her son, she could still say or he could that HE wanted to help his mom and was worried and she had no part. I'm not saying they can't maybe prove otherwise but we don't have a clear cut answer about that or the jury YET. With the plagiarism we do and so it makes all the other more likely and/or believable that she will do things to benefit self.

She coiuldn't deny that one, it is all there in black and white and in email. A total match up and with dates she had access to it prior. The plagiarized content. AND THIS she admitted. She had to. Imo. Or she wouldn't have.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yes, so the two things are connected according to this article above. See this BBM bit below.

"According to WYFF, a state police investigation discovered Jeff Hill abused his office to listen in on internal county discussions about the formal ethics complaint against his mother, Becky Hill, who is the subject of an ethics investigation."

Yeah I'd say the Hills have an upHILL battle. He's out of a job and I'm surprised she's not. She is't thus far is she? Of course she is elected. Attorneys aren't cheap and they're both in need of them, her for many a thing I'd say.

SC is a long way from having their houses cleaned it appears. Certainly in this area. It's hard to find someone clean where the dirty and corrupt seem to abound.

There is definitely an internal struggle, infighting and dirty going on here on both "sides" imo.

 

[Tresir]

Yeah I'd say the Hills have an upHILL battle. He's out of a job and I'm surprised she's not. She is't thus far is she? Of course she is elected. Attorneys aren't cheap and they're both in need of them, her for many a thing I'd say.

SC is a long way from having their houses cleaned it appears. Certainly in this area. It's hard to find someone clean where the dirty and corrupt seem to abound.

There is definitely an internal struggle, infighting and dirty going on here on both "sides" imo.

Not out of a job yet. As you say, it depends why he was tapping the convos about her internal ethics investigations. I cannot believe he did it without her knowledge or instigation even. I guess that is still being investigated.

 

[Tresir]

Here is another link from about a month ago when this surfaced. This article suggests her work phone was taken off the Colleton County phoneplan and put onto her private plan in an attempt to avoid a subpoena.

Colleton County Saga: Becky Hill Investigations Escalating - FITSNews

Another "tangled web?"

www.fitsnews.com

From the link -

"According to our sources, Jeffrey Hill’s alleged wiretapping of Utsey began in early June and continued through late July – which is when county staffers first became aware of the surreptitious recordings and reported them to ethics investigators.

Here is where things get interesting …

Around that same time – in late July – Becky Hill’s county-issued cell phone number was reportedly “released” from its taxpayer-funded Verizon account and promptly added to her personal account. This, we are told, was part of an effort to evade accountability – specifically, to dodge a looming subpoena from the ethics commission for Becky Hill’s cell phone records. Whatever motivated the account switcheroo, Becky Hill’s county-issued cell phone was removed from the county cell phone plan by the time a subpoena was eventually issued for it by ethics investigators in mid-August.

As our readers are aware, Becky Hill’s cell phone was the focus of a separate subpoena tied to the criminal probe into her son’s alleged wiretapping. As Fancher reported last week, Becky Hill was “forced to surrender her phone to SLED upon the issuance of a search warrant Tuesday evening.”

The cell phone seized by SLED was not the same device she used during the Murdaugh trial, incidentally."



IMHO, she has now become the story, more so than Murdaugh's request for a new trial.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Not out of a job yet. As you say, it depends why he was tapping the convos about her internal ethics investigations. I cannot believe he did it without her knowledge or instigation even. I guess that is still being investigated.

Yeah it is pretty hard to believe, I agree. I guess it's possible but it sure isn't likely and when adding it to other things well, very hard to buy...

Interesting though the public isn't trying to do a recall petition to remove her from office... Maybe they like the other side so little...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Here is another link from about a month ago when this surfaced. This article suggests her work phone was taken off the Colleton County phoneplan and put onto her private plan in an attempt to avoid a subpoena.

Colleton County Saga: Becky Hill Investigations Escalating - FITSNews

Another "tangled web?"

www.fitsnews.com

From the link -

"According to our sources, Jeffrey Hill’s alleged wiretapping of Utsey began in early June and continued through late July – which is when county staffers first became aware of the surreptitious recordings and reported them to ethics investigators.

Here is where things get interesting …

Around that same time – in late July – Becky Hill’s county-issued cell phone number was reportedly “released” from its taxpayer-funded Verizon account and promptly added to her personal account. This, we are told, was part of an effort to evade accountability – specifically, to dodge a looming subpoena from the ethics commission for Becky Hill’s cell phone records. Whatever motivated the account switcheroo, Becky Hill’s county-issued cell phone was removed from the county cell phone plan by the time a subpoena was eventually issued for it by ethics investigators in mid-August.

As our readers are aware, Becky Hill’s cell phone was the focus of a separate subpoena tied to the criminal probe into her son’s alleged wiretapping. As Fancher reported last week, Becky Hill was “forced to surrender her phone to SLED upon the issuance of a search warrant Tuesday evening.”

The cell phone seized by SLED was not the same device she used during the Murdaugh trial, incidentally."



IMHO, she has now become the story, more so than Murdaugh's request for a new trial.

My God what is wrong with this woman! What is clear though is she saw things coming so again there are two sides to this meaning someone was informing her of things going on or coming down or the investigation was not being done very confidentially.

Not only that but now you've involved your own adult son in the dirty dealings. Or vice versa but probably she did. I don't doubt to a point fighting the dirty of the Murdaugh political vehicle and cronies would take some under the table tactics but this all appears to have been for her own gain. And even if not, that isn't an excuse.

She's a pariah just like Alex and all for personal gain and use of others and her position and affecting her own family members just as he did as well. Only difference I see is he murdered.

And then this isn't the phone used during Murdaugh, I wonder what they are doing about that as to ascertaining what happened to it and getting all records they can.

The man is guilty but look what she's done to that case!! I trust IF it has to go to a retrial/new trial, he will be convicted again BUT this woman needs to go as well.

A court reporter turned only recently to a Clerk and elected as such and where does she get the audacity and nerve to think she can do all these things, pull such stunts and she expected to get away with them during one of the most high profile cases there's been ever in that area? And her stupid book. Smh, Mark my words though, she isn't/wasn't alone though... More than likely...

 

[Tresir]

This is an interview she did about four months ago with one of the media personnel she met (or already knew) at the time.

26 minutes long.

This interview was recorded after the verdict. She comes across as fair and reasonable in this, so all that is coming out is that much harder to comprehend.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This is an interview she did about four months ago with one of the media personnel she met (or already knew) at the time.

26 minutes long.

This interview was recorded after the verdict. She comes across as fair and reasonable in this, so all that is coming out is that much harder to comprehend.

I love Gigi. The podcaster. And she has stuck up for Becky and said she is the kindest woman you could ever meet. I wonder what she says with this most recent news. It is that kind of thing from those who have met her and such that has had me hold my opinion of not thinking she did all accused of but it is getting really hard to stay that course. It was easier to dismiss at first as I don't trust a word that comes out of the defense's mouth and them getting to a juror or two somehow didn't phase me much but the sh*t just continues to come.

Again I do think there is a witch hunt and I do think there are two sides to this BUT much of this has gotten too hard to ignore and at that point my scale teeters and tips the other way. Even IF say her son was listening and she had him doing so as some corrupt county board or some such was after here and they felt the need, they STILL did so and aren't above doing such themselves. I mean sometimes you have to fight corrupt with dirty but it's just too much and then the plagiarizing as minor as it may sound just shows a real lack of ethics and put together with the rest, well, I am tipping.

If the darned woman had just not written a book or CARED to, and done her job to the best of her ability well no one would be in this mess. I wouldn't believe for an instant half of this sh*t went on or if it did I would think there was a good reason and maybe there still is/was but it is sooo much. She still has admitted to almost nothing other than plagiarizing BUT she almost had to with that one. Pretty much caught dead to rights. But the fact she DID DO that makes me now question all.

She is quite good at coming across as this sweet, fair, level headed and kind woman...

Gigi has always acknowledged knowing her since trial.

She has a great channel and has a music fact of the day. She is enjoyable to listen to but isn't always first with news. I just watched one of hers last night where she did the most recent updates on most of the comoonly followed hot cases. Murdaugh, Delphi, Daybell, ID 4 and more.

 

[Tresir]

I love Gigi. The podcaster. And she has stuck up for Becky and said she is the kindest woman you could ever meet. I wonder what she says with this most recent news. It is that kind of thing from those who have met her and such that has had me hold my opinion of not thinking she did all accused of but it is getting really hard to stay that course. It was easier to dismiss at first as I don't trust a word that comes out of the defense's mouth and them getting to a juror or two somehow didn't phase me much but the sh*t just continues to come.

Again I do think there is a witch hunt and I do think there are two sides to this BUT much of this has gotten too hard to ignore and at that point my scale teeters and tips the other way. Even IF say her son was listening and she had him doing so as some corrupt county board or some such was after here and they felt the need, they STILL did so and aren't above doing such themselves. I mean sometimes you have to fight corrupt with dirty but it's just too much and then the plagiarizing as minor as it may sound just shows a real lack of ethics and put together with the rest, well, I am tipping.

If the darned woman had just not written a book or CARED to, and done her job to the best of her ability well no one would be in this mess. I wouldn't believe for an instant half of this sh*t went on or if it did I would think there was a good reason and maybe there still is/was but it is sooo much. She still has admitted to almost nothing other than plagiarizing BUT she almost had to with that one. Pretty much caught dead to rights. But the fact she DID DO that makes me now question all.

She is quite good at coming across as this sweet, fair, level headed and kind woman...

Gigi has always acknowledged knowing her since trial.

She has a great channel and has a music fact of the day. She is enjoyable to listen to but isn't always first with news. I just watched one of hers last night where she did the most recent updates on most of the comoonly followed hot cases. Murdaugh, Delphi, Daybell, ID 4 and more.

I am hoping she might now do a follow up interview. We'll have to keep an eye on it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I am hoping she might now do a follow up interview. We'll have to keep an eye on it.

I would imagine or think Becky is pretty beleaguered right now but then she has always risen striking back and denying so who knows. I am sure Gigi would grant her the opportunity and be fair and if she wanted to try to explain she'd be a good choice. Gigi did attend this trial and saw nothing untoward and has said as much and she said Hill is the most gracious and nicest warm southern lady you ever could meet. Of course she couldn't know about any of this but with what you've found today and posted, I'd be curious as to her opinion. I didn't want to jump down that hole of guilty and I still haven't entirely but it is really hard for me to say so or believe it now and I wonder waht Gigi would say too. I don't believe in too much or too many coincidences and we are simply past that point with Becky Hill. I generally go to abotu a count of three but with her I think it is beyond. I did discount initial ones quite a bit because of who they came from (and we still don't know facts on those for sure) but... The plagiarism may seem minor but it is the first thing she had to outright admit to and all for the book--again....

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Wanting money and fame can change people. The phone she pulled is obviously to avoid handing over the real phone. I hope charges come her way. I doubt she had any affect on the jury, but it sure gives Murdaugh's defense something to crow about.

 

[Tresir]

Wanting money and fame can change people. The phone she pulled is obviously to avoid handing over the real phone. I hope charges come her way. I doubt she had any affect on the jury, but it sure gives Murdaugh's defense something to crow about.

I am wondering if the son suggested that. He clearly has a lot of techie control of the courts phone systems after all.
JMO.

What exactly is he charged with again? I will have to review that.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Wanting money and fame can change people. The phone she pulled is obviously to avoid handing over the real phone. I hope charges come her way. I doubt she had any affect on the jury, but it sure gives Murdaugh's defense something to crow about.

I hate as you know to agree with you dear Dodo but I do on this. I don't really buy into the jury thing or that she affected a decision but she has given them plenty of ammo now but now I do have to wonder if there is more to it where at first I did not. I do not think fame or money or the possibility could ever take over my right and wrong but for some people it sure can and it seems to have done so here.. It's a shame because from all accounts anyone that knows her thinks the world of her but she likely will have decimated this case all by herself and apparently images of fame and fortune .were her likely factors/motives.

 

[Tresir]

Ok the wiretapping charges are from early June and for July according to the Fits news link I posted up thread. So that ties in with when she swopped her phone over to her private account. That would also be the work phone that she had during the trial of course. I can only guess that is when the GJ convened right?

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I hate as you know to agree with you dear Dodo but I do on this. I don't really buy into the jury thing or that she affected a decision but she has given them plenty of ammo now but now I do have to wonder if there is more to it where at first I did not. I do not think fame or money or the possibility could ever take over my right and wrong but for some people it sure can and it seems to have done so here.. It's a shame because from all accounts anyone that knows her thinks the world of her but she likely will have decimated this case all by herself and apparently images of fame and fortune .were her likely factors/motives.

I doubt she thought it was any big deal. She was just getting stuff out after the trial. She didn't give a about plagiarizing so I doubt her conscience runs deep.