PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

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This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.


 
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We don't know that the egg juror wasn't an alternate in the first place, do we? 2 had to be replaced due to Covid, then the egg juror was the last to be replaced, that's three, and 2 others due to medical problems.

I would not think they would question all 18 but just the final 12 who deliberated. Plus the egg juror maybe, if it is her complaint.

Becky Hill was elected in 2020 and it is a four year term

"Hill was a court reporter before being elected as Clerk of Court in 2020. She published a book, Behind the Doors of Justice: The Murdaugh Murders, in July."


This is from her bio for the Clerk elections in 2020.


Employment: Employed for the S.C. Judicial Department as a state court reporter for 12 years; resident court reporter to The Honorable Perry M. Buckner in the 14th Circuit.
Member of S.C. Court Reporter’s Association, American Sign Language (ASL) of the Lowcountry, Fight CRC (Colorectal Cancer) Alliance and a lifelong resident of Colleton County.

Why are you running
for office in Colleton County?

As a state judicial court reporter for the past 12 years, I’ve had immeasurable courtroom experience with General Sessions/Criminal Court, Civil Court/Common Pleas and Family Court. I’ve had the opportunity to establish good working relationships with many clerks, judges, attorneys and courthouse staff that help provide a cohesive professional foundation. With the retirement of the Colleton County clerk of court and the position becoming available, I feel that I can provide experience, knowledge and leadership to the local level.
I will continue to build upon the incredible foundation that has been laid and look forward to continuing to provide quality services, top-notch in operational efficiency, and leadership with integrity that the residents of Colleton County have come to know.
Hmm so she was a court reporter. I wonder if she ever changed a transcript. Only half kidding. If she's as corrupt as it seems is being hinted at.... But it may be a whole lot of corrupt being done to her, hard to say in this area.

Mallory Beach died/boating accident Feb 2019. Things going on with it for all the years after. Maggie and Paul murdered 2021. She was elected in 2020, was she campaigning in 2019 at all and probably as there was trouble and an investigation going on or lack of one or Alex affecting one, etc. Not saying it relates, just trying to get context of when she came in as clerk and what cases were going on or not yet, etc. So she came in in full fledged Murdaugh case time and after Paul's crashing the boat killing someone's loved one, a FRIEND of their group. When the case, emotions and Alex's attempts to influence witneeses/the kids' stories and the cops etc. was probably rumored, swirling or whatever. I looked up these dates, did not look up the lawsuit filing date, etc. So she was in office when it all went downhill from there and while he and Maggie and Paul and all were spiraling and more and then his major downfall. And their murdes. I have NO POINT at all, I'm kind of talking it out to myself by typing it...

The other thing I'm wondering here and haven't had a chance to look up is if the 14th circuit is the one that is Colleton County, I can't recall. Or did she live in Colleton and was working as a court reporter for a judge in another county...?
 
By his own attys. perhaps. Yeah.

I haven't had a chance but Donna Adelson claimed such almost immediately and there was a hearing on it yesterday that should be posted. WELL worth watching. I meant to post a link but didn't get a chance.

What abuse claims are you talking of by the way?

The Odinist guards tasing him and being cruel to him.
 
The Odinist guards tasing him and being cruel to him.
And the man never willfully disobeyed and if they were doing such intentionally he'd have more than two tasing incidents in a year and if corrupt they probably wouldn't put it on record either.

I don't buy it.

You know if such was made a deal of or came out before his confessions it might be a different story but I have watched the timing and things reared by the defense here throughout and nope. I have seen the timing of all Allen has done as well. Mostly his defense.

It's all blatantly obvious imo.

And I personally am thinking they didn't let him plead after he confessed and got on him for it, said we have to fix this, etc. That team was RUNNING him from that point.

They should NOT be his attorneys. They are in it for self.

IF Allen murdered Libby and Abby, two young minors, he is not exactly a role model rule abiding man is he... Do you truly think behind bars he has been... Throughout...

The whole O thing is unfortunate but it is SIGNIIFCANT in a year there was not a thing SAID about such by his defense and even after his confessions until the weak mental stress claims did not do much with public opinion...

TIMING.
 
And the man never willfully disobeyed and if they were doing such intentionally he'd have more than two tasing incidents in a year and if corrupt they probably wouldn't put it on record either.

I don't buy it.

You know if such was made a deal of or came out before his confessions it might be a different story but I have watched the timing and things reared by the defense here throughout and nope. I have seen the timing of all Allen has done as well. Mostly his defense.

It's all blatantly obvious imo.

And I personally am thinking they didn't let him plead after he confessed and got on him for it, said we have to fix this, etc. That team was RUNNING him from that point.

They should NOT be his attorneys. They are in it for self.

IF Allen murdered Libby and Abby, two young minors, he is not exactly a role model rule abiding man is he... Do you truly think behind bars he has been... Throughout...

The whole O thing is unfortunate but it is SIGNIIFCANT in a year there was not a thing SAID about such by his defense and even after his confessions until the weak mental stress claims did not do much with public opinion...

TIMING.
Hey you two - this is the Murdaugh thread LOL.
 
Link to the 14th Circuit solicitors office below. It covers 5 counties including Colleton.. So would the 14th circuit court reporter presumably cover all those counties too?

I don't know I know in our county it is very common for a specific court reporter to be the one in on one judges' cases and in that branch as her main job/full time position. A Ckerk on the other hand is a Clerk for all branches but in my state we don't cover multiple counties, I am talking about one county that has two or three branches, courtrooms, judges, etc. , each has their own court reporter, judicial assistant, etc. DO they and have they covered for another, I'd suppose that may happen but would not be the norm. I wouldn't think it to be the norm with the way county and state jobs are with their job descriptiions and doing nothing beyond them and so on. BUT if she was a court reporter for the circuit she could be assigned anywhere in it BUT the article listed her has with a certain judge as his court reporter.
 
The response is in the article.



"According to the draft response (.pdf), these employees are lobbing “spurious allegations” against Hill as part of a “laundry list” of false claims – which Hill insisted were “easily disproven by a cursory review of the actual facts.”
Hill is currently under investigation by the S.C. State Ethics Commission (SCSEC). One complaint being probed by the agency accused Hill of “unethically and potentially unlawfully” using her office to enrich herself by obtaining and releasing confidential information – some of which later appeared in her book. The second complaint accused Hill of misappropriating public funds from multiple accounts – and then allegedly misrepresenting those misappropriations to county officials."


This next section of the article has the pic of Alex in his cell. Brace yourself Gbear.


"Regarding an oft-discussed image of Murdaugh in his jail cell, Hill claimed that the allegation she used her position to obtain confidential information and images is “non-meritorious” as there is a public security camera located in the entrance hallway of the courthouse.

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Who took the image? According to Hill, the photo in question was snapped by Gary Hale – a former law enforcement officer who is now a member of the clerk of court’s staff. According to Hill’s response, Hale used his cell phone to take the picture from the public security camera – although sources familiar with the photo’s origin say it was snapped from a large-screen television located within Hill’s office."
 
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The response is in the article.



"According to the draft response (.pdf), these employees are lobbing “spurious allegations” against Hill as part of a “laundry list” of false claims – which Hill insisted were “easily disproven by a cursory review of the actual facts.”
Hill is currently under investigation by the S.C. State Ethics Commission (SCSEC). One complaint being probed by the agency accused Hill of “unethically and potentially unlawfully” using her office to enrich herself by obtaining and releasing confidential information – some of which later appeared in her book. The second complaint accused Hill of misappropriating public funds from multiple accounts – and then allegedly misrepresenting those misappropriations to county officials."


This next section of the article has the pic of Alex in his cell. Brace yourself Gbear.


"Regarding an oft-discussed image of Murdaugh in his jail cell, Hill claimed that the allegation she used her position to obtain confidential information and images is “non-meritorious” as there is a public security camera located in the entrance hallway of the courthouse.

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Who took the image? According to Hill, the photo in question was snapped by Gary Hale – a former law enforcement officer who is now a member of the clerk of court’s staff. According to Hill’s response, Hale used his cell phone to take the picture from the public security camera – although sources familiar with the photo’s origin say it was snapped from a large-screen television located within Hill’s office."
Should I have braced myself u mean for pic of Alex or the sh*t about Hill? I am no fan of the Clerk because at BEST she should have NEVER done a book at this point even if not "illegal" or violating ethics. If it wasn't it should have been a rule. She should have never questioned a juror. Etc.

I don't necessarily buy what defense says and the few jurors and my issue lies with I don't trust a bit in them. But I have said she gave them ammunition at minimum by her stupid choices. And may have almost singlehandedly destroyed a successful conviction. Whether she did all accused of and a lot of wrong or little wrong she made very bad selfish choices that don't look good at minimum and help defense use them and make it a lot easier for people to believe more is behind her choices and info and pics obtained.

No fan of hers. No fan either of pics of Alex ever.

I have/had hope it wasn't all as claimed but at a point now with this she has a few too many things to explain and when that happens in any case my scale finally tips in a direction. And it is tipping.
 
Should I have braced myself u mean for pic of Alex or the sh*t about Hill? I am no fan of the Clerk because at BEST she should have NEVER done a book at this point even if not "illegal" or violating ethics. If it wasn't it should have been a rule. She should have never questioned a juror. Etc.

I don't necessarily buy what defense says and the few jurors and my issue lies with I don't trust a bit in them. But I have said she gave them ammunition at minimum by her stupid choices. And may have almost singlehandedly destroyed a successful conviction. Whether she did all accused of and a lot of wrong or little wrong she made very bad selfish choices that don't look good at minimum and help defense use them and make it a lot easier for people to believe more is behind her choices and info and pics obtained.

No fan of hers. No fan either of pics of Alex ever.

I have/had hope it wasn't all as claimed but at a point now with this she has a few too many things to explain and when that happens in any case my scale finally tips in a direction. And it is tipping.
I know what you mean about too many things - her explanation about the pic of Alex being available on a camera in a public area is just BS. No way can the public see the prisoners in a cell like that IMO.

I meant it as a joke, just warning about the pic of Alex just reclining in his cell like that, snoozing like he had no cares in the world. Just a double murder and millions of dollars in financial crimes.....
 
I know what you mean about too many things - her explanation about the pic of Alex being available on a camera in a public area is just BS. No way can the public see the prisoners in a cell like that IMO.

I meant it as a joke, just warning about the pic of Alex just reclining in his cell like that, snoozing like he had no cares in the world. Just a double murder and millions of dollars in financial crimes.....
Agree and agree and agree. Too many things. When one has to explain this thing, that thing, and the other thing... It is too much and not believable.

I think though we have two dirty sides here or all one...

I didn't get that's what you meant lol about Alex but no kidding, not a care in the world and just kicked back. Relaxing or dreaming of the next move/plot.

We will have to wait and see I guess but I don't have much faith in almost anyone in this saga down there in SC.

I hate that she gave ammunition to the defense but it still doesn't mean I trust Alex and his team or don't think them dirty and connected, etc., etc.
 

Author: Tony Santaella
Published: 4:52 PM EST December 19, 2023
Updated: 6:26 PM EST December 19, 2023

COLUMBIA, S.C. — Former South Carolina Chief Justice Jean Toal has been picked to preside over convicted murder Alex Murdaugh's efforts to get a new trial.

Tuesday the South Carolina Supreme Court ordered that Toal to take over for Judge Clifton Newman. Newman, who oversaw Murdaugh's murder trial and his state financial crimes trial, asked the court to be removed from the case last month and will retire from being a judge at the end of the month. Murdaugh's attorneys had also requested to remove Newman from the case before he voluntarily stepped away.

In her role, Toal will decide all matters related to the case and will hold jurisdiction even if the venue were to change.

Toal is a trailblazer in South Carolina politics and law, having been the first female state Supreme Court justice in South Carolina history when she joined the bench in 1988. In 2000 she became chief justice, a position she held until 2015 when she retired due to state law that requires judges to retire at age 72.

She also is a former member of the South Carolina House of Representatives.
 

Author: Tony Santaella
Published: 4:52 PM EST December 19, 2023
Updated: 6:26 PM EST December 19, 2023

COLUMBIA, S.C. — Former South Carolina Chief Justice Jean Toal has been picked to preside over convicted murder Alex Murdaugh's efforts to get a new trial.

Tuesday the South Carolina Supreme Court ordered that Toal to take over for Judge Clifton Newman. Newman, who oversaw Murdaugh's murder trial and his state financial crimes trial, asked the court to be removed from the case last month and will retire from being a judge at the end of the month. Murdaugh's attorneys had also requested to remove Newman from the case before he voluntarily stepped away.

In her role, Toal will decide all matters related to the case and will hold jurisdiction even if the venue were to change.

Toal is a trailblazer in South Carolina politics and law, having been the first female state Supreme Court justice in South Carolina history when she joined the bench in 1988. In 2000 she became chief justice, a position she held until 2015 when she retired due to state law that requires judges to retire at age 72.

She also is a former member of the South Carolina House of Representatives.
Hopefully it's all good. I find it so hard to trust anything or anyone in that state when it comes to their system. Because, of course, of Alex and his family and the history. And Poot. Etc. Who knows who knows who/knew who and who is on the Court, who helpe get who appointed or elected and so on. Or who owes who, knows of things the other has done and on and on. SC has a LOT of black eyes.

Newman was certainly the right pick for the other cases as even I felt calmed by him and his seriousness and unflappable ways and fairness.

I guess we will see. It's interesting they say she will stay on throughout even if a change of venue.

I think Poot has always had an intent of planning for when Newman retired, was off the bench or getting him off the case. I almost feel that is one of a few reasons they largely did little at trial. Just an opinion.

Anyhow, hopefully they picked a serious and ethical judge with no connections, bias, etc. and no pocket judge. I get using senior judges at least to advise and what not but it's interesting how they bring them out of retirement and so forth. I wonder if she welcomes this case because I sure wouldn't at such a point in life and career.
 
Hopefully it's all good. I find it so hard to trust anything or anyone in that state when it comes to their system. Because, of course, of Alex and his family and the history. And Poot. Etc. Who knows who knows who/knew who and who is on the Court, who helpe get who appointed or elected and so on. Or who owes who, knows of things the other has done and on and on. SC has a LOT of black eyes.

Newman was certainly the right pick for the other cases as even I felt calmed by him and his seriousness and unflappable ways and fairness.

I guess we will see. It's interesting they say she will stay on throughout even if a change of venue.

I think Poot has always had an intent of planning for when Newman retired, was off the bench or getting him off the case. I almost feel that is one of a few reasons they largely did little at trial. Just an opinion.

Anyhow, hopefully they picked a serious and ethical judge with no connections, bias, etc. and no pocket judge. I get using senior judges at least to advise and what not but it's interesting how they bring them out of retirement and so forth. I wonder if she welcomes this case because I sure wouldn't at such a point in life and career.
So she is 80 years old now? (72 in 2015). Oh my, I hope her health is ok and she can stay the distance.

There is a link to her full bio in that article so I copied it below -

 
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So she is 80 years old now? (72 in 2015). Oh my, I hope her health is ok and she can stay the distance.

There is a link to her full bio in that article so I copied it below -

Hmmm. Well SC must have a reason for choosing her... And apparently she still serves..

There are some emails out here between Clerk Becky and others on her court email that are being discussed... Didn't get a chance to link... Not all bad, not all good and I believe all after the fact. I listened some but not closely to all. Busy but just giving heads up if anyone wants t o listen to or link.
 
LOL the clerk is just getting in more and more hot water. Her co-author is parting ways with her because he discovered a paragraph plagiarized from a BBC article. She admitted it. I am now beginning to feel a bit sorry for her, but I know I shouldn't really.


From the above link -

He added that he was "blindsided" by the actions, and that the book is now ceasing publication.

Gordon said he discovered the duplicated writing while reviewing emails of Hill's made public by Colleton County officials last week in response to news outlets' public records request. The emails were taken from Hill's county account and dated from January to early December.
In an email exchange in February between Hill and a BBC News reporter, the journalist had "shared a long excerpt from an upcoming article about the Alex Murdaugh trial," according to Gordon. He then noticed the article, which was eventually published March 3, was similar to a 12-page passage in the book's preface.
In one Feb. 20 email from the reporter to Hill, an attached text includes: "To know South Carolina's Lowcountry is to know the Murdaugh family name. For 86 unbroken years, 1920 to 2006, a Murdaugh presided as the chief prosecutor for South Carolina's Fourteenth Judicial Circuit. It was the longest such stretch of family control in United States history."
Hill's book, which was published in July, includes a section: "To know South Carolina's Lowcountry is to know the Murdaugh family name. For eighty-six unbroken years, from 1920 to 2006, a Murdaugh presided as the chief prosecutor for South Carolina's Fourteenth Judicial Circuit. It was the longest such stretch of family control in United States history."
Gordon said that when he confronted Hill about the similarities, she admitted to it, citing deadline pressures.
"As a veteran journalist myself, I cannot excuse her behavior, nor can I condone it," Gordon said.
“I can’t be associated with anything like plagiarism and will no longer partner with Becky Hill on any projects,” Gordon said. “I’d like to apologize to our readers, and publicly to the BBC and the reporter.”
 
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The clerk is just getting in more and more hot water. Her co-author is parting ways with her because he discovered a paragraph plagiarized from a BBC article. She admitted it.


From the above link -

He added that he was "blindsided" by the actions, and that the book is now ceasing publication.

Gordon said he discovered the duplicated writing while reviewing emails of Hill's made public by Colleton County officials last week in response to news outlets' public records request. The emails were taken from Hill's county account and dated from January to early December.
In an email exchange in February between Hill and a BBC News reporter, the journalist had "shared a long excerpt from an upcoming article about the Alex Murdaugh trial," according to Gordon. He then noticed the article, which was eventually published March 3, was similar to a 12-page passage in the book's preface.
In one Feb. 20 email from the reporter to Hill, an attached text includes: "To know South Carolina's Lowcountry is to know the Murdaugh family name. For 86 unbroken years, 1920 to 2006, a Murdaugh presided as the chief prosecutor for South Carolina's Fourteenth Judicial Circuit. It was the longest such stretch of family control in United States history."
Hill's book, which was published in July, includes a section: "To know South Carolina's Lowcountry is to know the Murdaugh family name. For eighty-six unbroken years, from 1920 to 2006, a Murdaugh presided as the chief prosecutor for South Carolina's Fourteenth Judicial Circuit. It was the longest such stretch of family control in United States history."
Gordon said that when he confronted Hill about the similarities, she admitted to it, citing deadline pressures.
"As a veteran journalist myself, I cannot excuse her behavior, nor can I condone it," Gordon said.
“I can’t be associated with anything like plagiarism and will no longer partner with Becky Hill on any projects,” Gordon said. “I’d like to apologize to our readers, and publicly to the BBC and the reporter.”

12 pages!! :thud: That's a lot of stuff.
 
LOL the clerk is just getting in more and more hot water. Her co-author is parting ways with her because he discovered a paragraph plagiarized from a BBC article. She admitted it. I am now beginning to feel a bit sorry for her, but I know I shouldn't really.


From the above link -

He added that he was "blindsided" by the actions, and that the book is now ceasing publication.

Gordon said he discovered the duplicated writing while reviewing emails of Hill's made public by Colleton County officials last week in response to news outlets' public records request. The emails were taken from Hill's county account and dated from January to early December.
In an email exchange in February between Hill and a BBC News reporter, the journalist had "shared a long excerpt from an upcoming article about the Alex Murdaugh trial," according to Gordon. He then noticed the article, which was eventually published March 3, was similar to a 12-page passage in the book's preface.
In one Feb. 20 email from the reporter to Hill, an attached text includes: "To know South Carolina's Lowcountry is to know the Murdaugh family name. For 86 unbroken years, 1920 to 2006, a Murdaugh presided as the chief prosecutor for South Carolina's Fourteenth Judicial Circuit. It was the longest such stretch of family control in United States history."
Hill's book, which was published in July, includes a section: "To know South Carolina's Lowcountry is to know the Murdaugh family name. For eighty-six unbroken years, from 1920 to 2006, a Murdaugh presided as the chief prosecutor for South Carolina's Fourteenth Judicial Circuit. It was the longest such stretch of family control in United States history."
Gordon said that when he confronted Hill about the similarities, she admitted to it, citing deadline pressures.
"As a veteran journalist myself, I cannot excuse her behavior, nor can I condone it," Gordon said.
“I can’t be associated with anything like plagiarism and will no longer partner with Becky Hill on any projects,” Gordon said. “I’d like to apologize to our readers, and publicly to the BBC and the reporter.”
Well I am going the other way. I am finding it harder and harder to feel sorry for her. What WAS she thinking??!!! All know you don't plagiarize and she wanted her book to do well and so she knew she plagiarized NOT for some college essay but in an actual BOOK that would be read by many and this was bound to be found out at some point.

I knew the public had gotten access to her emails at her work email and I was not aware that could be done as wha t if an email related to some other person's case... Not sure how that all worked/works. As I said i watched a show or part of one about a bunch of her emails but I wasn't focused on it and didn't really take much of it in.

What bothers me is I don't trust or believe all re the jurors and the defense and Alex but she is doing nothing but helping them out with her actions and apparently wrongdoing and it just keeps coming. Who knows if what her son was doing relates to her in any way...

The co-author stuck by her throughout and defended both himself, his wife and Hill. Now she has lost him as an ally. Deservedly so I'd say.

This is lawsuit worthy. She is going to be lucky if she has anything left by the time all is over. Or a job.

This woman is not that dumb but apparently felt untouchable, much like a Murdaugh or something. She has worked around the law and courts forever so how the heck could she be so darned stupid??

I'll tell you something else this does, she claims she felt under pressure, like deadline pressure and that's why she did it. Well that just gives more ammo with getting people to believe she DID want a quick verdictt too and the book out by a certain time.

Idiot woman.
 
The access to the emails came from a FOIA request, I believe.

The news about the plagiarism is in all our UK media now. Plus more info in this article below which finally explains about the wiretapping and what was wiretapped. What a sh!tshow !!!!



More at link above, but the below extract appears to explain the reason behind the wiretapping.

"Hill has also been linked to a scandal relating to her son, former Colleton County employee Jeff Hill, 34, who was accused of abusing his position to illegally wire-tap a phone conversation. Jeff Hill worked as an Information Technology Director in Colleton County before he was arrested in November on charges of wiretapping.

According to WYFF, a state police investigation discovered Jeff Hill abused his office to listen in on internal county discussions about the formal ethics complaint against his mother, Becky Hill, who is the subject of an ethics investigation.


Alex Murdaugh accused Becky Hill of influencing jurors​


The allegations against Becky Hill come in the wake of defense attorneys for Alex Murdaugh demanding a new trial in September after authorities began investigating Hill for using her office for personal gain.

Alex Murdaugh’s Defense attorney alleged during the trial Hill spoke to three jurors. They claimed they had collected affidavits from two jurors alleging Hill had inappropriate discussions that influenced the jury. Hill allegedly also threatened the Jurors with sequestration if they failed to come back with a quick verdict."
 
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