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Bernard Madoff says he is dying and is asking a judge for compassionate release from prison, where he is serving 150 years for orchestrating the largest Ponzi scheme in history, according to a Wednesday federal court filing.

Madoff, 81, has terminal kidney failure and a life expectancy of less than 18 months. When the court sentenced him, “it was clear that Madoff’s 150-year prison sentence was symbolic for three reasons: retribution, deterrence, and for the victims,” the court filing states. “This Court must now consider whether keeping Madoff incarcerated … is truly in furtherance of statutory sentencing goals and our society’s value and understanding of compassion.”

Madoff said in the request for compassionate release that he “does not dispute the severity of his crimes.”


IMO- stay in jail
 
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"We have been saying for over a year and a half that the settlement terms and conditions were unfair and should never be imposed on sexual assault survivors," Wigdor said. "We were surprised that class counsel and the New York Attorney General did not recognize this fact but are pleased that Judge Hellerstein swiftly rejected the one-sided proposal."
"On behalf of our clients, we look forward to pursuing justice against Harvey Weinstein and his many enablers," he added.
A 36-page brief was filed Monday by lawyers for several accusers, CNN reported, asking the court to reject the proposed settlement.
"Under no set of circumstances should the uber-wealthy former directors, including Harvey and Bob Weinstein, receive more money than a class of rape and sexual assault survivors," said Wigdor, as well as attorneys Kevin Mintzer and Bryan Arbeit, in a statement to CNN, calling the settlement's terms and conditions "one-sided and unfair."

 

Tragic and sad but strange case... Luxury apartment, the perp got out and they do not know how, masked and got in and was on surveillance having time even to clean up or start to, etc...?
 
WTH. Sometimes I am really glad I live in the areas I do.... Seems to be a question on whether this was a full torso.

 
If you read this, it sounds like the 3rd perp was a woman who rode with the victim to the gas station and "set her up". What prizes... What a gal... She is with the victim, gets out of the car and goes in the gas station. This is when the other two pull up and shoot her... Interestingly, the gal exits the gas station and takes off with the men in the car... Uh what?? Evil but again, STUPID. I hope this young mother makes it, she is in critical condition...

Mother Shot Multiple Times At Gas Station, While Her Infant Son Was Found Miraculously Unharmed In Back Seat
 
I posted a day or two ago here in this thread about the 13 year old being charged as an adult killing his brother. So the parents have a dead child and another charged whose future is likely done as well.

Well now the parents are charged. I think this could be a thread and likely possibly a hot headed one and it definitely can touch politics which I prefer to try to avoid generally but if capable of being discussed, there are some hot topics in it. I as in many cases am torn on the issues here. And don't know enough. I personally would rather not get too deep into political things but I also think each case is different and hot button issues in each case can be different too. Anyhow, here you go, it may be one to consider for a thread...

I see just off the top of the two posts I put up about this, this one and the one previously, several topics.

First this family is close to destroyed in days or even less and not only have their dead child to grieve but no chance to do so as the 13 year old son who killed him is charged and now both parents are.

Second, I don't like to get too much into gun control convos as again, I am not 100 percent one way on it and such can get very heated but that exists here as does parental responsibility.

The charging of a child as an adult is definitely an issue for discussion here. This child was not single digits but 13. Should he have known better? Does he deserve to be charged as an adult? Did he understand the possible finality of his actions? Are some 13 year olds more mature than others?

Some in the first article seem to feel a child of any age almost should not be charged as well, do you agree with that? And have no punishment nor consequences despite a "death"...?

Just examples. Lots of subject matter here. I would not mind a thread but also know it is likely to be heated... Or a very good discussion...

 
I posted a day or two ago here in this thread about the 13 year old being charged as an adult killing his brother. So the parents have a dead child and another charged whose future is likely done as well.

Well now the parents are charged. I think this could be a thread and likely possibly a hot headed one and it definitely can touch politics which I prefer to try to avoid generally but if capable of being discussed, there are some hot topics in it. I as in many cases am torn on the issues here. And don't know enough. I personally would rather not get too deep into political things but I also think each case is different and hot button issues in each case can be different too. Anyhow, here you go, it may be one to consider for a thread...

I see just off the top of the two posts I put up about this, this one and the one previously, several topics.

First this family is close to destroyed in days or even less and not only have their dead child to grieve but no chance to do so as the 13 year old son who killed him is charged and now both parents are.

Second, I don't like to get too much into gun control convos as again, I am not 100 percent one way on it and such can get very heated but that exists here as does parental responsibility.

The charging of a child as an adult is definitely an issue for discussion here. This child was not single digits but 13. Should he have known better? Does he deserve to be charged as an adult? Did he understand the possible finality of his actions? Are some 13 year olds more mature than others?

Some in the first article seem to feel a child of any age almost should not be charged as well, do you agree with that? And have no punishment nor consequences despite a "death"...?

Just examples. Lots of subject matter here. I would not mind a thread but also know it is likely to be heated... Or a very good discussion...

I'd have to have a lot more facts to decide on that one. I could go either way at the moment.
 
I'd have to have a lot more facts to decide on that one. I could go either way at the moment.
That is my usual way too and I do not have an opinion yet. I do see if fact that the 13 year old was the oldest of five kids home and the parents were not home. He does admit to knowing the guns were loaded. He put the gun back where he got it after shooting his brother. He admitted to being upset with him. He called 911 and lied about what happened...

HOWEVER, then my thoughts go this way. 13 is not exactly an unusual age to trust a child to babysit. Even a 3 or 4 year old, etc. will deny eating a cookie, breaking the cookie jar, etc. and blame it on the dog. Or try to hide something or put it back...

Children's brains are not developed nor mature nor done growing nowadays they say until like 25.

Very tough one...
 
Unless I have lost all memory OR this is Bible Study by Facetime or something, I would like to know how this is possible?? Watts I thought was in Wisconsin and the last I knew or so they thought Patterson was moved to New Mexico or something like that?? Was Watts moved too? Perhaps someone who knows how to check that out better can look into that. What a pair though... I see no good in either...

 

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