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Bernard Madoff says he is dying and is asking a judge for compassionate release from prison, where he is serving 150 years for orchestrating the largest Ponzi scheme in history, according to a Wednesday federal court filing.

Madoff, 81, has terminal kidney failure and a life expectancy of less than 18 months. When the court sentenced him, “it was clear that Madoff’s 150-year prison sentence was symbolic for three reasons: retribution, deterrence, and for the victims,” the court filing states. “This Court must now consider whether keeping Madoff incarcerated … is truly in furtherance of statutory sentencing goals and our society’s value and understanding of compassion.”

Madoff said in the request for compassionate release that he “does not dispute the severity of his crimes.”

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Bernie Madoff says he's dying and wants out of prison - KRDO

Bernard Madoff says he is dying and is asking a judge for compassionate release from prison, where he is serving 150 years for orchestrating the largest Ponzi scheme in history, according to a Wednesday federal court filing. Madoff, 81, has terminal kidney failure and a life expectancy of less...
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IMO- stay in jail
 
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Okay, something is really missing in this one. So the mother drops the baby with a woman whose daughter is dating the baby's father. Only the woman allegedly did not know her daughter was dating a man whose child had just been left with her... The baby's father's parents refused to wake their sleeping son, the baby's father? Am I getting this right? I had to read it three times... There seems to be more than one problem here and more than a bit to wonder about, and not just the child's mother...

While the mother did drop the baby, in a way she was leaving the child with the dad and his new honey's family, she did not harm the child... She also did not ring the doorbell and run so there is more to this. What was dad up to, was he helping at all with support or helping to care for the child?

Just sayin' there seems to be more here than one can glean from this article.

people.com

Fla. Mom Charged After Allegedly Abandoning Baby on Woman's Doorstep

Melissa Kelley has been charged with unlawful desertion of a child and child neglect after allegedly abandoning the baby
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GrandmaBear said:
Okay, something is really missing in this one. So the mother drops the baby with a woman whose daughter is dating the baby's father. Only the woman allegedly did not know her daughter was dating a man whose child had just been left with her... The baby's father's parents refused to wake their sleeping son, the baby's father? Am I getting this right? I had to read it three times... There seems to be more than one problem here and more than a bit to wonder about, and not just the child's mother...

While the mother did drop the baby, in a way she was leaving the child with the dad and his new honey's family, she did not harm the child... She also did not ring the doorbell and run so there is more to this. What was dad up to, was he helping at all with support or helping to care for the child?

Just sayin' there seems to be more here than one can glean from this article.

people.com

Fla. Mom Charged After Allegedly Abandoning Baby on Woman's Doorstep

Melissa Kelley has been charged with unlawful desertion of a child and child neglect after allegedly abandoning the baby
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You had it right in the 1st paragraph. In the 2nd one .. the baby's 28 year old 'dad' didn't live there rather he lived at his parents house. And it's doubtful (IMO) that Clayton Zinck was contributing anything to his childs needs. (See links below.)

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daytonamugshot.com

CLAYTON ZINCK booked 20201110

CLAYTON ZINCK - age28 arrested on 20201110 for TRESPASS PROP. OTHER THAN STRUCTURE/CONVEYANCE. Bail .
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GrandmaBear said:
I guess on the surface he did the right thing now and confessed but he still is only doing it faced with his own death and judgment...? He left someone's loved ones without answers for a very long time... However, you don't see this very often...

people.com

Terminally Ill Man Allegedly Calls Police, Confesses to 1995 Alabama Cold Case Murder

Johnny Dwight Whited's account of the 1995 killing allegedly matched evidence collected from the scene
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Guess he thinks God will wipe that off his list of misdeeds now.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Okay, something is really missing in this one. So the mother drops the baby with a woman whose daughter is dating the baby's father. Only the woman allegedly did not know her daughter was dating a man whose child had just been left with her... The baby's father's parents refused to wake their sleeping son, the baby's father? Am I getting this right? I had to read it three times... There seems to be more than one problem here and more than a bit to wonder about, and not just the child's mother...

While the mother did drop the baby, in a way she was leaving the child with the dad and his new honey's family, she did not harm the child... She also did not ring the doorbell and run so there is more to this. What was dad up to, was he helping at all with support or helping to care for the child?

Just sayin' there seems to be more here than one can glean from this article.

people.com

Fla. Mom Charged After Allegedly Abandoning Baby on Woman's Doorstep

Melissa Kelley has been charged with unlawful desertion of a child and child neglect after allegedly abandoning the baby
people.com people.com
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Boyfriend and his parents sound like such wonderful people. P.O.S's!!!!. I don't understand the part about the Mother finding out the baby's father if she was the one now dating him. It isn't written very clearly.
 
Mel70 said:
Boyfriend and his parents sound like such wonderful people. P.O.S's!!!!. I don't understand the part about the Mother finding out the baby's father if she was the one now dating him. It isn't written very clearly.
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It is a mess to figure out isn't it? It seems all of the info comes from everyone but the baby's mother and the father and his gf's side are certainly not going to admit to being pieces of sh*t but enough shows through even in this poorly written article to have some real doubt...
 
kdg411 said:
You had it right in the 1st paragraph. In the 2nd one .. the baby's 28 year old 'dad' didn't live there rather he lived at his parents house. And it's doubtful (IMO) that Clayton Zinck was contributing anything to his childs needs. (See links below.)

jailed.info

jailed.info
daytonamugshot.com

CLAYTON ZINCK booked 20201110

CLAYTON ZINCK - age28 arrested on 20201110 for TRESPASS PROP. OTHER THAN STRUCTURE/CONVEYANCE. Bail .
daytonamugshot.com
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Yeah, I meant that in a "way" she was leaving the baby with dad's "new" family, not meaning he necessarily lived there, just that they would know or put together it is his child which amazingly they did and allegedly never knew their daughter was dating the child's father, etc. Say what? Strange case.

Well that info you posted on the child's father hint at a real winner don't they? Smh.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Yeah, I meant that in a "way" she was leaving the baby with dad's "new" family, not meaning he necessarily lived there, just that they would know or put together it is his child which amazingly they did and allegedly never knew their daughter was dating the child's father, etc. Say what? Strange case.

Well that info you posted on the child's father hint at a real winner don't they? Smh.
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A bunch of screwed up adults to take care of a child. I swear in some cases there should be forced sterilization.
 
Mel70 said:
A bunch of screwed up adults to take care of a child. I swear in some cases there should be forced sterilization.
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I don't know the answer but I do know once two people create a child both should be required to take care of that child even if not involved with each other any longer. Of course, theoretically, I guess it could be said laws exist that do that but so many parents abandon the other and help not at all nor take a turn, many do not see their children, of course many run from support and it seems a low priority in courts to do anything about it.

This case I would like to hear more on because I am a bit open minded about the mother just yet. She did not kill or leave this baby in the middle of nowhere. I just saw a state pushing the fact there are no charges for someone dropping a baby off somewhere safe if you cannot take care of it, of course they mean a fire house or hospital generally.

I don't know that I think charging her is a good thing. She resisted harming the child or herself. She rang the doorbell and waited for the woman to answer. She brought what she probably had for formula. She did not try to hide.

The father's parents on the other hand refused to go get their own grandchild or WAKE the baby's father. I think that says a lot right there.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I don't know the answer but I do know once two people create a child both should be required to take care of that child even if not involved with each other any longer. Of course, theoretically, I guess it could be said laws exist that do that but so many parents abandon the other and help not at all nor take a turn, many do not see their children, of course many run from support and it seems a low priority in courts to do anything about it.

This case I would like to hear more on because I am a bit open minded about the mother just yet. She did not kill or leave this baby in the middle of nowhere. I just saw a state pushing the fact there are no charges for someone dropping a baby off somewhere safe if you cannot take care of it, of course they mean a fire house or hospital generally.

I don't know that I think charging her is a good thing. She resisted harming the child or herself. She rang the doorbell and waited for the woman to answer. She brought what she probably had for formula. She did not try to hide.

The father's parents on the other hand refused to go get their own grandchild or WAKE the baby's father. I think that says a lot right there.
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That child has a terrible Mother, Father and Grandparents.
 
Mel70 said:
That child has a terrible Mother, Father and Grandparents.
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It certainly appears that way. If I was the mother of the new girlfriend (where the baby was left), I would get her daughter the hec* away from this guy and fast. Smh.

I still think there is more to this story. Whether we ever hear it is anyone's guess.

An educated guess is the mother of the baby wanted to show the new gf's mother her daughter was dating a man with a baby (he maybe denied?) and here was the baby, let him and the new honey deal with the work for awhile... Jealousy or payback? I don't know. Just guessing. Just odd.
 
Mel70 said:
Seriously. 2 parents that can't take care of them an another 2 that won't. 4 people have failed this Child.
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I don't disagree necessarily at all. I do think if we don't want young (or other) parents seeing the only way out as killing a child, I do think let a drop off not be charged. I don't necessarily mean she get the baby back, that is an entirely different can of worms.

Not quality parents but her intent could be as simple as here dad, girlfriend and family, you take a turn. I don't know, it is an odd and confusing article/case.

I think my relief is the baby is alive and safe. Where the baby goes from there, hopefully to a better situation/family might be the best answer.
 
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