Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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i managed to copy pasta the VF article. If she moves to SC then i guess she is not planning to attend the trial. Unless she stays in a hotel. I guess she could afford it if she sells for half a million plus the million from Peacock.

@GrandmaBear your point about the jury visiting the torture chamber is a good one, so i think the prosecution need to delay the sale till after trial.


CRIME

Alleged Long Island Serial Killer's Lifelong Home Hitting the Market​

The Gilgo Beach home where Rex Heuermann lived while allegedly killing at least six women will be offered for sale in 2025.
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BY EVE BATEY
NOVEMBER 23, 2024
Long Island Serial Killer

Law enforcement officials are seen as they investigate the home of Rex Heuermann, who was arrested in the unsolved Gilgo Beach killings on July 14, 2023 in Massapequa Park, New York.MICHAEL M. SANTIAGO/GETTY IMAGES


Some Long Island real estate agent is about to have the toughest job of their career. The lifelong home of Rex Heuermann, the alleged Long Island serial killer behind the deaths of multiple women since the 1990s, is reportedly about to hit the market as his wife and adult children leave New York for a new life elsewhere. Now, neighbors are speculating about who might buy such a property—or what might take its place.

Heuermann is believed to be the killer characterized as “LISK” in Robert Kolker’s 2013 non-fiction bestseller Lost Girls: An American Unsolved Mystery. Investigators say that the same killer—now believed to be Heuermann—was responsible for the deaths of at least ten women whose bodies were dumped in the region. Long unsolved, the case saw a break in 2023 when DNA testing and cell phone and credit card data linked Heuermann to some of the remains.

Heuermann, a 60-year-old architect who police say stocked his residential basement with (per the New York Times) “an arsenal and a manual of grisly methods on how to hunt and kill women,” maintains his innocence, and has pled not guilty to charges in six deaths stretching back to 1993. His wife, Asa Ellerup, also believes that he had nothing to do with the crimes. Ellerup “still has the same opinion: She doesn’t believe he’s capable of what he’s been accused of,” her attorney, Robert Macedonio says.

Despite that, Macedonio tells ABC 7 that Ellerup and the couple’s two adult children “are moving out of the home and in the process of relocating.” Speaking with NBC 4, Macedonio says that the family will move to South Carolina as repeated raids by law enforcement have caused her to lose “her attachment to her house of 30 years.”


“To start the healing process, she wants to move on,” Macedonio told the broadcast station via statement.

Even before Ellerup moved into the home, Heuermann was there. According to the Associated Press, the single-story house had been Heuermann’s home since his childhood. Neighbors say that it had been in a state of disrepair for years, with one nearby resident saying, “It was weird. He looked like a businessman. But his house is a dump.”
The condition of the home has not improved in the meantime. Since July of 2023, it’s attracted tourists and true crime gawkers, as well as repeat visits from police seeking additional evidence in the case. According to Macedonio, investigators have left the interior seriously damaged, and Ellerup—who was reportedly paid as much as $1 million to participate in a Peacock documentary about the Long Island serial killer case—“has no money to repair it.”

According to a Daily Mail report from late 2023, the home was valued at $530,000 when Heuermann transferred the deed to Ellerup for $0, months after she filed for divorce. At the time, Ellerup’s attorney characterized the split merely as a “precautionary measure to protect her from future liability in case the families of Heuermann’s alleged victims sue.”

That divorce is expected to be finalized within six months, clearing the way for the home’s sale. Meanwhile, a trial date for Heuermann remains up in the air. During a hearing in October, a judge said a trial might be scheduled during a December 17 court date, even as Heuermann’s defense attorney argues that the trial should be moved elsewhere to ensure an untainted jury.

“We talked about a change of venue. We’re going to look into that. We have been looking into that, whether we can get a fair and impartial jury here in Suffolk County,” defense attorney Michael Brown said. “Where do I hope it would be? The trial itself? Mars, I don’t know.”

 
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From the VF article above i read and also copied this link and the text about the "true crime gawkers".

"Since July of 2023, it’s attracted tourists and true crime gawkers, as well as repeat visits from police seeking additional evidence in the case."

From that link -

Since his arrest on July 13, hundreds of wide-eyed people from across Long Island and beyond have come each day to the home, about five miles from Gilgo Beach, where Mr. Heuermann lived with his wife and two grown children. They have clustered outside police tape on the edge of his block.​
The site on the otherwise unremarkable corner of First and Michigan Avenues in this sleepy bedroom community allows a vantage into the red house, a crime scene that for days has been searched by investigators, while Mr. Heuermann’s family has not been seen at home. His wife, Asa Ellerup, has filed for divorce, her lawyer, Robert A. Macedonio, confirmed on Wednesday.​
Some bike over or walk the dog from nearby blocks; some trek from distant towns or other states. Once-near-empty streets are lined with cars from sunup to sundown, parked by true-crime addicts, serial killer aficionados and some people obsessed specifically with the Gilgo Beach murders.​
“It’s part of history,” said Lidia Feldman, 26, who lives several towns away. Her 2-year-old daughter cheerfully rode her plastic toy car into the yellow crime-scene tape.​
“It sends chills down your spine,” said Ms. Feldman.​
Some couldn’t care less about Gilgo Beach, the red house or the arsenal of guns being carried out of it by investigators in white jumpsuits. One group of women showed up Tuesday evening to announce they were there only to meet police officers to date.​
This offer was met with a mix of grins and stern stares from a phalanx of officers standing sentry.​
Some parents viewed the house as an educational site. Mayra Urema of Farmingdale brought her daughter Veronica Medina, 14, because, she said, “I wanted to teach my daughter that there’s scary people in this world.”​
As for herself, Ms. Urema said. “I’ve been following this story since Day 1.”’​
She stared past the crime scene tape and murmured, “I’d love to go inside there, just to see.”​
Onlookers seemed both horrified and fascinated.​
Image
An aerial view of a suburban home.

Investigators carted off evidence under the avid eyes of true-crime fans. Some had come just to meet police officers.Credit...Johnny Milano for The New York Times
“Coming here makes it real for me,” said Lori Gargiulo, who mentioned her own coincidental connections to notorious crimes. The serial killer Joel Rifkin was a classmate at East Meadow High School, she said, and Colin Ferguson, who shot 25 people, six fatally, on a Long Island Rail Road train in 1993, was a co-worker at a burglar alarm company in Syosset.​
For Michael Iavarone, of Huntington, visiting this neighborhood of modest, well-kept houses in neat rows drove home the idea that “this guy was living amongst the people.”​
Mr. Iavarone, a co-owner of the champion racehorse Big Brown and a surpassingly flashy internet personality, looked toward the red house, absorbed in watching investigators cart out evidence.​
“I feel horrible for the neighbors,” he said. “It’s become a tourist spot.”​
Marianne Patino, 59, who lives in Babylon, likened the Heuermann house to the Dutch colonial two miles away made famous by the “Amityville Horror” films, which were based on the true story of a young man who killed six members of his family in 1974.​
“This will be the next ‘Amityville Horror house,’ it will stay in history,” she said — a prospect dreaded by neighbors. Decades after the Amityville crimes, gawkers still drive by and take photos, to the consternation of the current owners.​
On Tuesday, a reporter who visited the original Amityville house was met by a woman on a balcony who shouted, “private property!”​
Nick Marsi and Jake Goodhart, both 18-year-olds from Hauppauge, had parked in front of the house to chat about the films. They enjoy exploring serial killer points of interest, they said.​
The young men said they were unaware of the Gilgo Beach slayings, but were amazed to learn that the suspect lived only two miles away.​
“Sounds awesome,” Mr. Marsi said.​
They drove off.​
Back at the Massapequa Park house, Bernadette Paredes, 53, an office manager from Levittown, had brought her 18-year-old daughter, Brooke, who had watched a Netflix movie, “Lost Girls,” based on the Gilgo Beach case.​
“It was just weird to watch it and come here and see it in real life,” Brooke Paredes said. “It’s creepy.”​
Her mother took photographs for Facebook.​
“I guess now I’m cool,” she said. “I got to see Rex’s house.”​
Chelsia Rose Marcius contributed reporting.​
A correction was made on
July 20, 2023
:
An earlier version of this article misstated the genre of the movie “Lost Girls.” It is based on reality, but not a documentary.
 
They went together - the home and the marriage and the swinging. She stayed because he paid for holidays a few times a year for her and the kids, i guess. She/he sure didn't have any money because it said she was using food stamps at one point didn't it? Oh woe is me and he cannot afford butter in jail.

I'm pretty sure the Vegas condo was just a time share. If he had any property then he couldn't have a PD right? So now her lawyer is saying how much the home is worth. He should keep quiet or they could (should IMO) seize all assets. It obviously was his house and it didn't belong to his wife, which is why he sold it for a dollar.
I agree the home, marriage, etc. went together. Just saying I think she was referencing the home.

Well even a time share sells for money so she probably netted there or is renting out their weeks and netting money there.

No, he coudn't have a public defender, they''ve entirely played the system, she got and saved all the assets, he is getting free representation and it's all been done in front of everyone's noses and no one is stopping it AND screwed the victim's familiies over.

And her attty basically boldly says such. Couching it in terms of it "protecting" her. It's disgusting.

They've sued themselves, car accidents if I recall, supposedly owed taxes and didn't do right there, and yes Food Stamps I believe was the case and that's interesting. Probably property rich but cash poor, and again playing the system, all while he rents a Manhattan office... That was rented I believe, right? However, the Food Stamps may go to the son as well as disability as he's an adult. Just as she likely has control of his TV/movie money, she likely is the trustee with the FS and disability payment.

IF they got Food stamps themselves it is because of being property rich but income poor. It used to be like that here. And it's disgusting. I can tell a story of a couple in a brand new pricey house, brand new garages, bought a house for their children out of state when they were going to college, ran their own business and showed no income. They got free medical, Food Stamps, etc. Meanwhile I was raising two kids on my own, not receiving child support, working a fairly low paying job, and could not qualify. That's the dumb loopholes, etc. and sh*t govt. does. I'm not sure how NY is. Politicians and people that run the country/and world are idiots as I keep saying and it's why I pretty much universally say it about all in a blanket statement.

But her son would definitely probably qualify too even if living at home.

IMO at BEST there should be laws that the most of assets that can be transferred in a situation like this to the wife or the "noncharged" partner is HALF. The rest should be held somehow pending whether the charged spouse is found guilty or not, and even then victim families can bring civil suits. If they WANT to use it for a private atty, perhaps let them til it's gone, don't know the answer there, and then they're in the bpat pf broke and qualify for a taxpayer paid defense. They shouldn't be able to move, divest of it and save it or have a partner saving it for them, etc. and imo cheating the stupid system.

And seriously what does someone who is never going to be out on bond need money for but if bills continue to need to be paid, allow that, maybe some commissary money, or if they want to use it for a private atty, well as things stand, that should probably be allowed. Not saying I agree with that, but those would be normal expenses while incarcerated. They should not again be able to move 100 percent, divest of it, get a wife to save it for them, ,etc. and keep it from victim families and so forth all while he has a taxpayer funded defense. They also need to make a rule about what Asa did and the network who paid them did. That's just way too logical though. Someone who is not an idiot needs to spearhead such but then they'd still need idiots to approve it which won't happen.

I don't think he can even buy butter in jail which is as it should be imo. And I agree, (just reading your post again to finish my response) and in this case, yes not sure she was even on any of the deeds to begin with in which case, not even sure half should be allowed but held until things are sorted out, him found guilty, etc., etc.

I recall in Dulos, Fotis had to I believe petition the court to use his retirement to pay his atty or some such. He couldn't just USE it. The judge had done something there to halt such happening automatically or being used.

It's definitely something that needs to be addressed and there needs to be laws about such. But let me tell you, civil laws versus criminal laws, such things working together or anyone in the system knowing how to integrate all has never happened lol. It's just way to complicated for them I guess. Different systems don't play nice or work together well and aren't integrated. Just like the food stamps are not something that would ever even be looked at by the judge in the criminal case, etc. Nor divesting of assets generally. Etc.

Yeah from the little we know, she was never on anything as an owner. Not even sure they had a joint back account. Now I don't disagree that doesn't mean she's entitled to something after many years of marriage and that depends on if a community property state, if they had any kind of prenup, what he owned before marriage, etc. And all that is just more of the mess that isn't integrated and is a different system and subject. Criminal court. Civil court. Divorce/Family court.

And then our states have a lot of their own autonomy which is good at times but definitely not always. They don't have it in everything and fed can overrule but all states differ in their laws and rules, and yada, yada, yada.

regardless this is a major wrong thing and a huge loophole almost everywhere. Many loopholes and called playing the system in my book. Macedonia can publicly talk about what they/she did because it was all within the bounds of the law with none broken I guess. And what CB did handng her everything to save it.
 
Yes, the house
That's what I thought as it was the topic at the time, Also agree if so inhabitable then why the heck was she still there if they couldn't function in it and it's been for some time now, and this news also says they are talking maybe six months from now when divorce is final. Kind of interesting that it isn't. I wonder why...

It is six months in my state from day you file, can't be any sooner I don't believe. I think I have that right won't swear to it But why would this one still be six months out when he gave her everything and there's no disagreements... And when she filed very quickly after his arrest....
 
No one in their right mind will want the home, the property though is a possibility. Even neighbors I could see buying it just to get it out of the neighborhood (the home anyhow) and make sure the eyesore is gone and ensure nothing they wouldn't want ends up in its place. A real estate developer. Etc. It has a taint sure but the house more than anything I'd say. Now for me, I wouldn't want anything about it, the property, a new house on it, nothing but that wouldn't bother quite a few. I'm a BIT well not superstitious and not saying it would be haunted or anything like that as I'm logical, but there is a whole lot of bad history there and that would likely be always at the back of my mind. The home is laughable (not funny, just doesn't fit the neighborhood these days) but it's on prime real estate and I don't think it would stop some developers, etc. However, whether she'll get the price she will likely desire I guess that's just going to depend on who would want it and why..

The torture chamber was dug out underground, wasn't it. If someone believes in ghosts, they wouldn't touch it.
 
The torture chamber was dug out underground, wasn't it. If someone believes in ghosts, they wouldn't touch it.
Not sure honestly, I know/believe it was in the basement, don't know that something was dug out like you are saying. I think LE did some digging outside and maybe inside? Again, not sure.
 
Below are the ones that haven't been charged yet, so I think it could be Karen or Valerie that gets charged next. What do you think?

Karen Vergata missing Feb 14th 1996
Alicia Reynolds, 2nd March 1996, VA
"Peaches" discovered in 1997
(Baby "Peaches" discovered April 2011)
***Valerie Mack Spring/Summer 2000
Jodie Brewer, 19, Aug 2006, Las Vegas
Kim Raffo, 35, 21st Nov 2006
Tracy Ann Roberts, 23, Oct 2006
Barbara Breidor, 42, Nov 2006
Molly Dilts, 19, Nov 2006
(Above four victims from Atlantic City )
Shannan Gilbert May 2010 disc Dec 2011
Asian male discovered April 2011
Aaliyah Bell, Rock Hill, SC Nov 2014

*** RH declared a POI in June 2023.
Bringing this forward to see if those two victims fit his calendar and they do slot right in between the Atlantic city victims in 2006 and Shannan Gilbert in 2010.
 
I came across this article about Tanya Rush (2008) and Cherries (2007) so am posting it for reference - two women whose body parts were found in suitcases.

I havent got through it all but Cherries is a lot heavier than his normal victim. However who knows... I don't think I knew Peaches was found in a tote. I haven't gotten to any part about Rush yet.

A suitcase is different but you know, he followed profilers and such and I think he purposely tried to change MOs, mix it up, etc.

Many an expert has had to admit they were wrong that thought the earlier killings and later ones were not related or by the same killer. Now he is charge with some from both time periods.

Just saying he could mix up his MO maybe intentionally, or got lazier, who knows.

Interesting that where a body part was found was the state of someone who owns Madison Square Garden. Wow.

I'm not going to jump to conclusions but it is a good reminder of the kinds of people who live on Long Island, etc.

It's assumed of course it came downstream or whatever...

I don't have the time right now to read the rest but will try to.

One thing I do believe is he has murdered throughout his years. Something may have made him take a hiatus but when not having to, I think he did, and even hit different areas perhaps.

I mean, it's kind of difficult to ascertain but we know he traveled, hunted in Alaska, visited his mom often where she lived, owned other homes or time share in SC and Vegas...And YET they appeared to have little means or money. Appeared may be the word that matters there... Asa was quickly claiming broke, etc. a GFM, you name it, house wrecked. Man that still irritates me. He whines about butter to other SKs.

I don't get time to much but when a person stops to think about all that and more, it's pretty ODD.

She travels or gets sent off with the kids a lot and he kills. At least in some of the cases.. House is a dump. Yet he wears suits and has a Manhattan office.

So WEIRD.

Doesnt match anyone's life I know of or know.

I guess it is just hitting me again how weird it all is, have not thought of in awhile, how weird they are.

I sure know people vary and this is NYC, LI, Manhattan and all that is pretty alien to me and where I am but still, they are some pretty weird ducks imo. Gamers, a comic fan, he is married with a kid of his own but his life is going to work and finding prostitutes to screw or kill I guess.

And one of them imo is for sure an SK.

Both rumored swingers, etc.

He is someone who never left the childhood home.

And then the other one profits from the acts of the one serial killing.

I am trying really hard to put it into words but it's hard of how absolutely revolting and WEIRD they both are, and how can the kids help but be...

I get so numb to crime maybe from following too much but every so often it hits me and hits me hard. I think we all do honestly. Anyhow it is hitting me hard right now.
 
Reminder there is a court date coming up on Tuesday Dec 17th. Trial date should be set then but funds are needed.

 
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Yeah there's a few things coming up isn't there, I think Daybell, Delphi, this one. Sounds like a new thing or two on the Kohberger one too, thought to be about funds in the one piece also.
 
From the VF article above i read and also copied this link and the text about the "true crime gawkers".

"Since July of 2023, it’s attracted tourists and true crime gawkers, as well as repeat visits from police seeking additional evidence in the case."

From that link -


Since his arrest on July 13, hundreds of wide-eyed people from across Long Island and beyond have come each day to the home, about five miles from Gilgo Beach, where Mr. Heuermann lived with his wife and two grown children. They have clustered outside police tape on the edge of his block.​
The site on the otherwise unremarkable corner of First and Michigan Avenues in this sleepy bedroom community allows a vantage into the red house, a crime scene that for days has been searched by investigators, while Mr. Heuermann’s family has not been seen at home. His wife, Asa Ellerup, has filed for divorce, her lawyer, Robert A. Macedonio, confirmed on Wednesday.​
Some bike over or walk the dog from nearby blocks; some trek from distant towns or other states. Once-near-empty streets are lined with cars from sunup to sundown, parked by true-crime addicts, serial killer aficionados and some people obsessed specifically with the Gilgo Beach murders.​
“It’s part of history,” said Lidia Feldman, 26, who lives several towns away. Her 2-year-old daughter cheerfully rode her plastic toy car into the yellow crime-scene tape.​
“It sends chills down your spine,” said Ms. Feldman.​
Some couldn’t care less about Gilgo Beach, the red house or the arsenal of guns being carried out of it by investigators in white jumpsuits. One group of women showed up Tuesday evening to announce they were there only to meet police officers to date.​
This offer was met with a mix of grins and stern stares from a phalanx of officers standing sentry.​
Some parents viewed the house as an educational site. Mayra Urema of Farmingdale brought her daughter Veronica Medina, 14, because, she said, “I wanted to teach my daughter that there’s scary people in this world.”​
As for herself, Ms. Urema said. “I’ve been following this story since Day 1.”’​
She stared past the crime scene tape and murmured, “I’d love to go inside there, just to see.”​
Onlookers seemed both horrified and fascinated.​
Image
An aerial view of a suburban home.

Investigators carted off evidence under the avid eyes of true-crime fans. Some had come just to meet police officers.Credit...Johnny Milano for The New York Times


“Coming here makes it real for me,” said Lori Gargiulo, who mentioned her own coincidental connections to notorious crimes. The serial killer Joel Rifkin was a classmate at East Meadow High School, she said, and Colin Ferguson, who shot 25 people, six fatally, on a Long Island Rail Road train in 1993, was a co-worker at a burglar alarm company in Syosset.​
For Michael Iavarone, of Huntington, visiting this neighborhood of modest, well-kept houses in neat rows drove home the idea that “this guy was living amongst the people.”​
Mr. Iavarone, a co-owner of the champion racehorse Big Brown and a surpassingly flashy internet personality, looked toward the red house, absorbed in watching investigators cart out evidence.​
“I feel horrible for the neighbors,” he said. “It’s become a tourist spot.”​
Marianne Patino, 59, who lives in Babylon, likened the Heuermann house to the Dutch colonial two miles away made famous by the “Amityville Horror” films, which were based on the true story of a young man who killed six members of his family in 1974.​
“This will be the next ‘Amityville Horror house,’ it will stay in history,” she said — a prospect dreaded by neighbors. Decades after the Amityville crimes, gawkers still drive by and take photos, to the consternation of the current owners.​
On Tuesday, a reporter who visited the original Amityville house was met by a woman on a balcony who shouted, “private property!”​
Nick Marsi and Jake Goodhart, both 18-year-olds from Hauppauge, had parked in front of the house to chat about the films. They enjoy exploring serial killer points of interest, they said.​
The young men said they were unaware of the Gilgo Beach slayings, but were amazed to learn that the suspect lived only two miles away.​
“Sounds awesome,” Mr. Marsi said.​
They drove off.​
Back at the Massapequa Park house, Bernadette Paredes, 53, an office manager from Levittown, had brought her 18-year-old daughter, Brooke, who had watched a Netflix movie, “Lost Girls,” based on the Gilgo Beach case.​
“It was just weird to watch it and come here and see it in real life,” Brooke Paredes said. “It’s creepy.”​
Her mother took photographs for Facebook.​
“I guess now I’m cool,” she said. “I got to see Rex’s house.”​

Chelsia Rose Marcius contributed reporting.​
A correction was made on
July 20, 2023
:
An earlier version of this article misstated the genre of the movie “Lost Girls.” It is based on reality, but not a documentary.
I just enlarged the photo. Is that a hot tub in the back garden with steps up to it?
 
I just enlarged the photo. Is that a hot tub in the back garden with steps up to it?
Not any good myself at enlarging them. Where is it you mean? I can't tell what half of all of the stuff in the back yard is. Or perhaps none of it is more like it. Starting the day with imagining either of those two in a hot tub was not a good imagined visual by the way, lol. Before coffee too. Thanks for that, not, lol.
 
Not any good myself at enlarging them. Where is it you mean? I can't tell what half of all of the stuff in the back yard is. Or perhaps none of it is more like it. Starting the day with imagining either of those two in a hot tub was not a good imagined visual by the way, lol. Before coffee too. Thanks for that, not, lol.
I thought that might make your day. It is in the VF article but i have specifically copied pasta for you below. It is to the right of the door that looks like a LE officer is walking thru. In fact it looks like he may be going down into a cellar of sorts. See below extract including the pic. Its a big white square thing with wooden steps up into it. Just use two fingers on the image and spread them apart to enlarge.

"She stared past the crime scene tape and murmured, “I’d love to go inside there, just to see.”
Onlookers seemed both horrified and fascinated.
Image

An aerial view of a suburban home.


Investigators carted off evidence under the avid eyes of true-crime fans. Some had come just to meet police officers.Credit...Johnny Milano for The New York Times
 
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