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10-year-old Lily Peters found dead near Wisconsin trail with bike nearby, suspected homicide *ARREST*
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GrandmaBear
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Yep.
Keep in mind this is an area of Wisconsin or not so far from an area where 12 years is the max on murder and six is considered adequate. I guess we'll see if Chippewa County can do it better...
I'd also go so far as to say this judge nor any of them there have likely dealt with a teenaged minor murderer before.
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Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
I know hon. It's beyond disgraceful. I love you my friend.
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
Reverse waiver brief filed in Lily Peters case
A reverse waiver brief is filed in the case of Lily Peters.
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Reverse waiver brief filed in Lily Peters case
A reverse waiver brief is filed in the case of Lily Peters.In the document, Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell argues that the teen charged in the death of Peters remain in adult court.
The conclusion of the document, signed by the District Attorney, states in part, “Given that the defendant has not proven the statutory factors necessary for this Court to transfer the matter to juvenile court, this Court must deny the petition for reverse waiver.”
DA files to deny reverse waiver in Lily Peters murder case
CHIPPEWA FALLS — Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has filed a brief saying a reverse waiver request for the teen accused of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters should be denied.
DA files to deny reverse waiver in Lily Peters murder case
Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has filed a brief saying a reverse waiver request for the teen accused of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters should be denied.Newell filed the eight-page brief ahead of Friday’s deadline to submit paperwork to the court.
“It is important to discourage juveniles from engaging in premeditated murder,” Newell wrote to the court. “‘General deterrence’ can best be accomplished by this court keeping the matter in criminal court. This would send the message, to other juveniles, that a serious premeditated violent offense is dealt with in a serious way, which offers protection to everyone.”
The teen is presently charged as an adult; a reverse waiver would send the case to juvenile court. Newell noted that if it remains in adult court, the defendant faces a minimum sentence of life in prison with eligibility to petition for release to extended supervision after 20 years. If the matter was sent to a juvenile court disposition, the teen would likely be ordered to participate in the serious juvenile offender program until he reaches the age of 25.
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
Good. As far as I am concerned. He should never see a day of freedom.Reverse waiver brief filed in Lily Peters case
A reverse waiver brief is filed in the case of Lily Peters.Reverse waiver brief filed in Lily Peters case
A reverse waiver brief is filed in the case of Lily Peters.
In the document, Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell argues that the teen charged in the death of Peters remain in adult court.
The conclusion of the document, signed by the District Attorney, states in part, “Given that the defendant has not proven the statutory factors necessary for this Court to transfer the matter to juvenile court, this Court must deny the petition for reverse waiver.”
DA files to deny reverse waiver in Lily Peters murder case
CHIPPEWA FALLS — Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has filed a brief saying a reverse waiver request for the teen accused of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters should be denied.www.leadertelegram.com
DA files to deny reverse waiver in Lily Peters murder case
Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has filed a brief saying a reverse waiver request for the teen accused of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters should be denied.
Newell filed the eight-page brief ahead of Friday’s deadline to submit paperwork to the court.
“It is important to discourage juveniles from engaging in premeditated murder,” Newell wrote to the court. “‘General deterrence’ can best be accomplished by this court keeping the matter in criminal court. This would send the message, to other juveniles, that a serious premeditated violent offense is dealt with in a serious way, which offers protection to everyone.”
The teen is presently charged as an adult; a reverse waiver would send the case to juvenile court. Newell noted that if it remains in adult court, the defendant faces a minimum sentence of life in prison with eligibility to petition for release to extended supervision after 20 years. If the matter was sent to a juvenile court disposition, the teen would likely be ordered to participate in the serious juvenile offender program until he reaches the age of 25.
GrandmaBear
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I say good as well!Reverse waiver brief filed in Lily Peters case
A reverse waiver brief is filed in the case of Lily Peters.Reverse waiver brief filed in Lily Peters case
A reverse waiver brief is filed in the case of Lily Peters.
In the document, Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell argues that the teen charged in the death of Peters remain in adult court.
The conclusion of the document, signed by the District Attorney, states in part, “Given that the defendant has not proven the statutory factors necessary for this Court to transfer the matter to juvenile court, this Court must deny the petition for reverse waiver.”
DA files to deny reverse waiver in Lily Peters murder case
CHIPPEWA FALLS — Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has filed a brief saying a reverse waiver request for the teen accused of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters should be denied.DA files to deny reverse waiver in Lily Peters murder case
Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has filed a brief saying a reverse waiver request for the teen accused of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters should be denied.
Newell filed the eight-page brief ahead of Friday’s deadline to submit paperwork to the court.
“It is important to discourage juveniles from engaging in premeditated murder,” Newell wrote to the court. “‘General deterrence’ can best be accomplished by this court keeping the matter in criminal court. This would send the message, to other juveniles, that a serious premeditated violent offense is dealt with in a serious way, which offers protection to everyone.”
The teen is presently charged as an adult; a reverse waiver would send the case to juvenile court. Newell noted that if it remains in adult court, the defendant faces a minimum sentence of life in prison with eligibility to petition for release to extended supervision after 20 years. If the matter was sent to a juvenile court disposition, the teen would likely be ordered to participate in the serious juvenile offender program until he reaches the age of 25.
Glad to see the DA doing his job and getting it in ahead of time/in a timely fashion.
He is a "child" and so was SHE, younger yet. While he was far from a sophisticated murderer who likely never thought beyond the plan/act, he knew what he was doing in taking her life and again it was planned, and he definitely needs far more than the juvenile offender program and if his own cousin isn't safe from him, no one is and he was only getting started.
I find it outrageous that a minimum sentence in adult court would mean possible release after 20 years and I take this to mean had an ADULT did this, it would be the same. This is MY home state and that maddens me.
Tis maybe an hour away from where I grew up. I work with someone who even though I am in MN grew up in this area. I am surprised at the # of WI people. She is young but works full time in addition to going to college and has her head on straight. I should ask her if she knows of this crime. I'd have to bet she does but I bet I would likely find she doesn't know a thing about the DA, judge, etc., might know the family, and doesn't likely follow crime. Very few "youth" do or area or bigger politics, etc. I didn't until in my 30s in any serous, informed way, or just thereabouts.
Still I should ask her. It isn't a huge area. IF I get time. We are busy and rampling up for the holidays and Black Friday. While I hoped to end up with an extra day off next week because T Day is a day off, nope, instead I end up with a SIX day long stretch of work from Black Friday to the next day off. So tired... And scheduled the day before T Day till late and then day after, Black Friday at 5ish in the morning/opening. NEVER have I went in that early in the year I have worked there. Yeah just recently hit a year.
Anyhow, this "kid" belongs in adult court. He committed a murder and he planned to harm her. I do see a slight difference in him and the likes of Aidan Fucci/Florida but both were murders and planned acts. They don't belong on the streets.
Judge rules suspect in Lily Peters case to stay in adult court
The suspect in the Lily Peters homicide case will be tried as an adult.
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Judge rules suspect in Lily Peters case to stay in adult court
The suspect in the Lily Peters homicide case will be tried as an adult.Court documents show the suspect’s petition for a reverse waiver into juvenile court is denied.
The documents note that testimony revealed the suspect was evaluated by doctors and both doctors diagnosed the suspect with “multiple, verified psychological disorders.”
The suspect, who will turn 16 years old in March, is charged with first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of sexual assault.
Judge: Teen accused of killing Lily Peters will stay in adult court
The teen suspected of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters almost two years ago will have the homicide case against him continue in the adult court system.
Judge: Teen accused of killing Lily Peters will stay in adult court
The teen suspected of killing 10-year-old Lily Peters almost two years ago will have the homicide case against him continue in the adult court system.The teen, whose name is redacted to only show his initials C.P.-B., was 14 at the time of the Peters' death on April 24, 2022.
A reverse waiver hearing took place over several days in August, where C.P.-B.'s defense team argued that the teen would get better treatment to fit his needs in juvenile court. They cited C.P.-B's adverse childhood and diagnosed psychological disorders as reasons why. They also argued moving to juvenile court would not have depreciated the seriousness of the crime.
The Chippewa County District Attorney argued the actions of C.P.-B. were pre-meditated, violent and egregious in nature. Because of that, moving it to juvenile court would depreciate the seriousness of the offense. A source told News 18 this is the argument Gibbs agreed with.
Chippewa Co. DA “looking at trial dates in April 2025″ for Lily Peters case
“Right now we are looking at trial dates in April 2025,” the State says.
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Chippewa Co. DA “looking at trial dates in April 2025″ for Lily Peters case
Court documents show that Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell has requested that the arraignment in the Lily Peters trial be set within the next 60 days.Newell believes that getting the trial on the calendar now means a possible trial date in April of 2025.
On Jan. 22, the court denied the defendant’s petition to move the trial to juvenile court. Since then, Defense Attorney Michael Cohen has filed a petition for leave to appeal the denial of the reverse waiver, as well as a motion to pause the trial. The motion to pause the trial was denied.
Cohen responded to the request to set the arraignment in an email, saying, “We are NOT doing an arraignment at this time, which would be the next proceeding anyway, until the appeal process is concluded.”
“Right now we are looking at trial dates in April 2025. The State, and the victim’s family, don’t want to wait another six months before we can even get this matter on the trial calendar,” Newell said in the document. “April of 2025 is fourteen months from now. More than enough time to have a decision regarding the appeal, and then proceeding to trial if the matter stays in adult court.”
FULL DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE AT LINK
Court of Appeals to hear Lily Peters case
The Wisconsin Court of Appeals will decide whether the teen accused in Lily Peters’ death will be tried in juvenile or adult court.
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Court of Appeals to hear Lily Peters case
The Wisconsin Court of Appeals will decide whether the teen accused in Lily Peters’ death will be tried in juvenile or adult court.Today the Third District Court of Appeals filed an order saying the three-judge panel will take up the appeal filed by the teen’s lawyer, Michael Cohen.
Last month, a Chippewa County judge ruled the case will remain in adult court. Cohen appealed that decision.
The teen, who will be 16 next month, is charged with first-degree intentional homicide and sexual assault in the 2022 murder of Peters, who was only 10 years old.
Cohen now has 25 days to file a brief to the court.
Lawyers Seek to Keep Lily Peters Murder Trial in Juvenile Court
Attorneys for the teenager accused of murdering Lily Peters are striving to keep his case in juvenile court. B...
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Lawyers Seek to Keep Lily Peters Murder Trial in Juvenile Court
Attorneys for the teenager accused of murdering Lily Peters are striving to keep his case in juvenile court.Both defense and prosecution have submitted briefs to the appellate court.
The suspect, who was 14 at the time, allegedly beat, raped, and strangled Peters as she walked home in 2022.
The case has experienced delays due to a judicial backlog and disputes over whether it should be tried in adult court.
A judge ruled in January that the case should proceed in adult court, with the trial set to begin soon.
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Boy who 'murdered cousin, 10, and raped her corpse' makes sick plea
Carson Peters-Berger was 14 when he allegedly killed Lily Peters as they walked along a hiking trail in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, on April 24, 2022.
He has been held at Northwest Regional Juvenile Detention Center in Eau Claire on a $1 million cash bond, where he will stay until he is 18.
But his lawyers argued in a 35-page brief that he should be tried as a juvenile, which would only send him to jail for 10 years, letting him walk free aged 25.
Judge Steven Gibbs ruled on January 22 that he should stay in an adult court, but the Wisconsin Court of Appeals agreed to hear an appeal by the defense.
'The court disagrees that a possible 10-year confinement in the juvenile system, registering as a sex offender and that the defendant would be vulnerable to the adult system would be punishment enough for the defendant,' Gibbs wrote in his ruling.
Peters-Berger's lawyer Michael Cohen objected, arguing sending him to jail for decades wouldn't deter others and would only be retribution.
'The Circuit Court correctly found that he could not receive adequate treatment in the criminal justice system and that retaining jurisdiction in adult court is not necessary to deter him or other juveniles,' he said.
'But the Circuit Court erred in finding that transferring jurisdiction would depreciate the seriousness of the offense.
'In this case, putting [Peters-Berger] in adult prison for life is not necessary. It will not motivate change or cause change.
'It is only punishment for the sake of punishment, which is not what the law permits for juveniles.
'There is no evidence that imposing this harsh outcome upon [Peters-Berger] will in any way deter others. We may hope, or wish that it does, but in reality, it will not change others' behavior.'
Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul and Assistant AG John Flynn submitted a 25-page rebuttal on Monday, arguing the crime was too serious.
GrandmaBear
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POLITICS AGAIN affecting justice. This is my state. And our appeals court was KIDNAPPED and mutinied for lack of better terms.Lawyers Seek to Keep Lily Peters Murder Trial in Juvenile Court
Attorneys for the teenager accused of murdering Lily Peters are striving to keep his case in juvenile court. B...Lawyers Seek to Keep Lily Peters Murder Trial in Juvenile Court
Attorneys for the teenager accused of murdering Lily Peters are striving to keep his case in juvenile court.
Both defense and prosecution have submitted briefs to the appellate court.
The suspect, who was 14 at the time, allegedly beat, raped, and strangled Peters as she walked home in 2022.
The case has experienced delays due to a judicial backlog and disputes over whether it should be tried in adult court.
A judge ruled in January that the case should proceed in adult court, with the trial set to begin soon.
Very explicit details at link below. (What is copied here is not explicit.)
The boy was charged as an adult with first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of sexual assault, and faced life in prison.Boy who 'murdered cousin, 10, and raped her corpse' makes sick plea
Carson Peters-Berger was 14 when he allegedly killed Lily Peters as they walked along a hiking trail in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, on April 24, 2022.www.dailymail.co.uk
He has been held at Northwest Regional Juvenile Detention Center in Eau Claire on a $1 million cash bond, where he will stay until he is 18.
But his lawyers argued in a 35-page brief that he should be tried as a juvenile, which would only send him to jail for 10 years, letting him walk free aged 25.
Judge Steven Gibbs ruled on January 22 that he should stay in an adult court, but the Wisconsin Court of Appeals agreed to hear an appeal by the defense.
'The court disagrees that a possible 10-year confinement in the juvenile system, registering as a sex offender and that the defendant would be vulnerable to the adult system would be punishment enough for the defendant,' Gibbs wrote in his ruling.
Peters-Berger's lawyer Michael Cohen objected, arguing sending him to jail for decades wouldn't deter others and would only be retribution.
'The Circuit Court correctly found that he could not receive adequate treatment in the criminal justice system and that retaining jurisdiction in adult court is not necessary to deter him or other juveniles,' he said.
'But the Circuit Court erred in finding that transferring jurisdiction would depreciate the seriousness of the offense.
'In this case, putting [Peters-Berger] in adult prison for life is not necessary. It will not motivate change or cause change.
'It is only punishment for the sake of punishment, which is not what the law permits for juveniles.
'There is no evidence that imposing this harsh outcome upon [Peters-Berger] will in any way deter others. We may hope, or wish that it does, but in reality, it will not change others' behavior.'
Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul and Assistant AG John Flynn submitted a 25-page rebuttal on Monday, arguing the crime was too serious.
He plotted and he planned and he killed and is no better than Ethan Crumbley in MI or Aidan Fucci in FL. They committed serious ADULT crimes and as teens KNEW better.
:Like HE77 it would not deter anyone. It would deter him for one would it not and keep society safe where a slap on the hand in juvey will not. AND others.
This is what happens when uhm certain types take over. I'll keep the politics out of it but they are ALL OVER the PLACE on this one. Funny thing is that no one is going to RE-ELECT anyone who decides this way BUT then probably a majority of the citizens don't know what has happened in the State court.
POLITICS should NOT be affecting justice and a high percentage of the population has no clue they are and/or cares less.
HE is NOT the VICTIM here! HIS COUSIN IS. Yes, COUSIN. Makes it even worse. He IS THE PERP. What is WRONG WITH PEOPLE these DAYS? SOME anyhow... Oh just let 'em do the worst things and kill and then let's feel sorry for the perp, no, THAT is too harsh. What is harsh is what the victims and their FAMILY suffered and continue to!!
Bunch of freaking bleeding lack of logic libs.
Two years after Lily Peters' death, her case plays a role in changing WI law
The Wisconsin State Legislature passed a bill this year to expand the alert system for missing kids, in part because of the Lily Peters case.
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Two years after Lily Peters' death, her case plays a role in changing WI law
While it's not clear if the issuing of an AMBER Alert could have changed the outcome of the case, Henry still couldn't figure out why he did not receive a notification of any kind. As he returned to work during those dark days following Peters' murder, he could not get the thought out of his mind."I was very curious about why there was no alert or anything sent out," Henry said. "It sounded like -- I don't want to say a flaw in the system -- but there was something missing. Clearly, it needed to be addressed."
From there, Sen. Johnson and Sen. James led a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers in crafting legislation to expand the state's alert systems for missing children. Unable to adjust AMBER Alert guidelines, they instead focused their energy on the state's Silver Alert system, which has typically been used for vulnerable adults.
Ultimately, they passed a bill to give law enforcement broader authority to issue Silver Alerts for missing children who might be in danger but don't meet the AMBER Alert threshold. Specifically, the expanded Silver Alert system will apply to kids younger than 10.
The new law is named the "Prince Act" for Prince McCree but honors the memory of both Prince and Lily. Their families were all present when Gov. Evers signed the bill into law last April, and the governor's office mentioned both cases in its official press release.
GrandmaBear
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Yet in another recent cases, I think it may have been Vue but I won't swear to that, I came to find out our state has the broadest maybe and closest to the original Amber Alert rules. Regardless not a bad thing here but mentioning that. And again, not sure if that's the case but I mentioned in whatever case it was.
Not sure of course if it would have helped in this case but if something went out last seen at this time, on bike at such and such a place and heading home presumably who knows. He may have been caught, anything may have been a bit different. Hard to say.
Of course, it's as I keep saying a political year. Get that good press out there right... On all sides.
Try to minimize any failure if there was one.
Trying him as an adult or not is imo in some ways a far bigger one. And there we go too again with how politics can play into justice and should not.
I don't mean it's bigger for her, I mean as far as appearance. Of course then there is state level with the alert and county level with that decision although we all know there is probably pressure one way or another.
Imo most people are looking for harder on crime, it's gotten way too ridiculous. IF that's one of the issues that matter to them. He was a kid but imo he made a life changing choice for both of them and he saw it through other than maybe his other "act" he intended but he ensured she could not tell.
Who knows if he is redeemable, however society matters and safety first and he's demonstrated he can't be out in it imo. EVer at this moment. Hey these days they get enough chance to get out of prison much less juvey. It's sickening. Look at Gypsy Rose. Arguably a home life with a lot of reasons to SOMEWHAT be as she was, but she's out and she and a bf killed her mother.
NO JUVENILE light slap on the wrist for offenders like this. Jmo.
Not sure of course if it would have helped in this case but if something went out last seen at this time, on bike at such and such a place and heading home presumably who knows. He may have been caught, anything may have been a bit different. Hard to say.
Of course, it's as I keep saying a political year. Get that good press out there right... On all sides.
Try to minimize any failure if there was one.
Trying him as an adult or not is imo in some ways a far bigger one. And there we go too again with how politics can play into justice and should not.
I don't mean it's bigger for her, I mean as far as appearance. Of course then there is state level with the alert and county level with that decision although we all know there is probably pressure one way or another.
Imo most people are looking for harder on crime, it's gotten way too ridiculous. IF that's one of the issues that matter to them. He was a kid but imo he made a life changing choice for both of them and he saw it through other than maybe his other "act" he intended but he ensured she could not tell.
Who knows if he is redeemable, however society matters and safety first and he's demonstrated he can't be out in it imo. EVer at this moment. Hey these days they get enough chance to get out of prison much less juvey. It's sickening. Look at Gypsy Rose. Arguably a home life with a lot of reasons to SOMEWHAT be as she was, but she's out and she and a bf killed her mother.
NO JUVENILE light slap on the wrist for offenders like this. Jmo.
Appeals court rules suspect in Lily Peters homicide will be tried in adult court
The decision was released Tuesday morning.
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Appeals court rules suspect in Lily Peters homicide will be tried in adult court
The Wisconsin Court of Appeals has ruled that the teenage boy charged in Lily Peters’ death will be tried in adult court. The court said the defense did not prove by moving the case to juvenile court, the seriousness of the offense would not be depreciated.The decision was released Tuesday morning. The three-judge panel took up the appeal in February after it was filed by the now 16-year-old’s lawyer, Michael Cohen. In January, a Chippewa County judge ruled the case would remain in adult court, but Cohen appealed that decision.
In his appeal, Cohen was hoping to keep the case in juvenile court. Harry Hertel, a criminal defense attorney not involved in the case, shared the likely reason why Cohen did that.
“The level of treatment or punishment is not life in prison whereas in the adult system for first-degree intentional homicide, life in prison is the result,” Hertel said. “So, you’re fighting really hard for your client to not have him face life in prison if at all possible.”
The court of appeals looked at the evidence presented in the case, including testimony from psychologists. One psychologist diagnosed the suspect with autism spectrum disorder and an unspecified anxiety disorder. He also said the suspect had extensive exposure to internet pornography, saying that caused the suspect to have “obsessive sexual thoughts.” The psychologist said those factors likely contributed to the suspect’s actions.
The appeals documents state the defense failed to show that a reverse waiver would not depreciate the seriousness of his offenses and therefore the appeals court affirmed the court’s order denying the petition for reverse waiver. Convincing the court that moving the case to juvenile court would not depreciate the seriousness of the offense is something Hertel said would have been difficult.
“It’s not an accident. It’s not just a spur-of-the-moment. It was very premeditated,” Hertel said. “If there was something in there to show that indeed he had remorse, that he was repenting, that he came forward to help, I’m not sure he would have been kept in the adult system.”
WEAU has chosen not to post the appeals documents due to its graphic details.
Lily Peters case will move forward in Chippewa County
According to the DA, the court will be setting the matter for an arraignment.
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Lily Peters case will move forward in Chippewa County
The case against a teenager charged with killing Lily Peters in 2022 will now move forward in Chippewa County Court.Court records show a remittitur was filed on Friday, which means the case is back in the trial court.
According to Chippewa County District Attorney Wade Newell, the court will be setting the matter for an arraignment, which is the day the suspect, who is now 16, pleads guilty or not guilty to the charges.
In Sept. 2024 the Wisconsin Court of Appeals ruled that the teenage boy charged in Lily Peters’ death will be tried in adult court. The court said the defense did not prove by moving the case to juvenile court, the seriousness of the offense would not be depreciated.