Crimes by the Justice System and Police

Off the top of my head, I'd say Texas. George W. Bush was very proud that he never commuted a death sentence while he was Governor. It's been said by more than one person that they have a fast lane to killing inmates.
No agenda here or politics is there...

I can find political sites if I want one.

Have at it, as always, it's where you are trying to lead it.

90 or more percent on "both sides" are scum. All the same.

Good night all.

I can't wait to see fair happen here. Waiting with bated breath. Not.
 
People are appealing, but nobody wants to admit a mistake. In that John Oliver video, one DA comes right out and says innocent people should be put to death.
Well they need to support/use the Innocent project and also sue in civil courts too.

That's also the stage that state representatives need to be lobbied to get involved.
 
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They only get a certain number of appeals. When that's done, they can't appeal any more.
Well yes of course, if they have appealed and lost up to the supreme court. List the cases on this thread so we can follow them and their appeals or link if there is a thread already.
 
And appeal as well. Feature the cases on here that you are advocating for.

There are too many overall. The point is that it's a major problem. I linked two cases. One has been resolved, and the other one has been given a stay of execution.

The problem is that the ones that go unnoticed are the ones that receive the least justice. Without the Paradise Lost documentaries, Damien Echols would probably be dead and the other two would still be in prison.

It's too big of a problem for me to look into. If you want to, go to the innocence project website.
 
There are too many overall. The point is that it's a major problem. I linked two cases. One has been resolved, and the other one has been given a stay of execution.

The problem is that the ones that go unnoticed are the ones that receive the least justice. Without the Paradise Lost documentaries, Damien Echols would probably be dead and the other two would still be in prison.

It's too big of a problem for me to look into. If you want to, go to the innocence project website.
I don't have time. If they were UK cases i would be more familiar with the appeal processes. Maybe choose a couple - the worst ones from each state perhaps and feature them once a month. Some may not even have contacted the innocent project either.
 
If y'all want to get into personal debates that are borderline political, let us know and we'll move this thread to Area 51. You can send an anonymous note via the "Report" button.

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If y'all want to get into personal debates that are borderline political, let us know and we'll move this thread to Area 51. You can send an anonymous note via the "Report" button.

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I don't really know at what point it gets political. Talking about appellants or wrongly convicted contacting and getting help from their representatives isn't really political but public service. Is criticising police and DA's and appeal processes and discussing wrongly convicted political?

I don't like being continually told i should look at something or being tagged and then criticised when i do respond to a tagged post. That's not political but is bad manners IMO.

It doesn't matter to me whether a thread is in the political category or not but i have noticed hardly anybody comments on those threads LOL.
 
More proof that cops definitely will do absolutely anything to cover for each other. Golubski was a part of it here. He put an innocent guy in prison by manufacturing evidence and others went along with it.

described deep-seated corruption and a culture of protecting wrongdoers in the department.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article296436594.html#storylink=cpy
More...

 
Well they need to support/use the Innocent project and also sue in civil courts too.

That's also the stage that state representatives need to be lobbied to get involved.
Personally, the "innocence project" itself is not something i fully endorse. the premise is great but the LA one for instance...?? Just another thing with a lot of b.s. in it, money, non profit, etc., agenda. Not saying always, maybe some of them are, sure there are may some good ones involved in some areas but it's a whole thing.

I am going to leave that there.

State representatives?

It's all so far gone it isn't even funny.

Some, SOME, not many, I think still run or get involved with good intentions but are almost immediately done for. They can't do anything or are laid for immediately.

I admit I am cynical but it is not going to change. It's only going to get worse.

I guess there could be a revolution or civil war but those with the power would only make any in it a problem or someone over the edge.

I am serious.

People don't speak up because that's how it would be. And of course divide and conquer oh that surely goes on.

Youth may think they can make a difference, who doesn't at that age, like the UHC killing. But most would never go that far. But it is a dream.

I am to where most of us get, I think, take care of your own and self, to the best you can with the stupid systems and idiots and corrupt. I am well aware of what I sound like, but you just give up.

All I do is say what I can on here, etc. Bit*h about it taking years for a trial to take place, murders of children, things like that. Hope ir resonates with anyone that could maybe do something about it or make a difference. I don't sit silent. Obviously lol.

But nothing is going to get better, it slides further all of the time. Every generation, etc.

I am though more thankful every single day for things I maybe was not enough for. That UHC case and even the Hannah case. I mean wow. Who are these people.

I guess I am getting old but at the same time I can look back and know the age, etc.

She I guess just ran away, and probably lives in some fantasy world but again she's thirty, not 20. He though MURDERED.

I probably better stop, I really need some sleep but not able to yet.

Such stuff too is starting to be made out to be less serious or something. i guess if that's what someone young is looking at or watching, etc. and that's their influence overall, I can almost see how it happens.

It's like when notorious fame became fame, almost a good thing. And that's been some decades ago.

It didn't used to be.

But again, I am wandering.

And do know what I sound like.

Nonprofits, Hmm.

I could go down many a rabbit hole here. It's way too far gone.

And I know I started this over another topic, the Innocence Project, etc.

And then people get into those kinds of things and that's it. Or believe all of it.

Instead of looking at each as what it is. And each person in it as who they are, and each one. Nothing should be a blanket.

Our courts take now almost a decade to prosecute or proceed.

Now I know I need to stop.

Anyhow I am rarely on when anyone else is lol.

I don't have much lol in me but lol.

All of it is too far gone. One or another may make something better or try to here and there. Hopefully. But it's never going to turn around.

Unfortunately. and IMHO.
 

 
I don't plan on looking at the link but just on the part showing, they could say Catholic prison guard, Scientology prison guard, you name it. If the Os helped RA then let him say so. NOTHING takes him out of it though.

Not a single O can be placed there but again ya know if he was part of the group and had their help then let him TELL it. Because it's all there that it was him. If he had some O buddy, well then come clean.

It's all b.s. imo but again let him share it, he knows if anyone does. BUT HE was definitely there and did this so it doesn't clear him anyhow.
 
I don't plan on looking at the link but just on the part showing, they could say Catholic prison guard, Scientology prison guard, you name it. If the Os helped RA then let him say so. NOTHING takes him out of it though.

Not a single O can be placed there but again ya know if he was part of the group and had their help then let him TELL it. Because it's all there that it was him. If he had some O buddy, well then come clean.

It's all b.s. imo but again let him share it, he knows if anyone does. BUT HE was definitely there and did this so it doesn't clear him anyhow.

But they didn't say any of those groups. An FBI agent was murdered by an Odinist guard coming out of his office because someone threw a Molotov Cocktail through his office window. Just after submitting a report that encouraged more investigations into the Odinist angle. The guy was convicted.
 
But they didn't say any of those groups. An FBI agent was murdered by an Odinist guard coming out of his office because someone threw a Molotov Cocktail through his office window. Just after submitting a report that encouraged more investigations into the Odinist angle. The guy was convicted.
I think i read about this a long time ago. There was also a polygrapher murdered too IIRC. Pretty sure i put these incidents on the Delphi thread so we don't want to go over old ground.
 

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