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Missouri woman who served 43 years in prison is free after her murder conviction was overturned
A woman whose murder conviction was overturned after she served 43 years in prison is now free, despite objections from Missouri’s attorney general
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Missouri woman who served 43 years in prison is free after her murder conviction was overturned
A woman whose murder conviction was overturned after she served 43 years of a life sentence was released Friday, despite attempts in the last month by Missouri's attorney general to keep her behind bars.Hemme had been the longest-held wrongly incarcerated woman known in the U.S., according to her legal team at the Innocence Project. The judge originally ruled on June 14 that Hemme’s attorneys had established “clear and convincing evidence” of “actual innocence” and he overturned her conviction. But Republican Attorney General Andrew Bailey fought her release in the courts.
Horsman ruled on June 14 that "the totality of the evidence supports a finding of actual innocence." A state appeals court ruled on July 8 that Hemme should be set free while it continued to review the case. The next day, July 9, Horsman ruled Hemme should be released to go home with her sister. The Missouri Supreme Court on Thursday declined to undo the lower court rulings that allowed her to be released on her own recognizance and placed with her sister and brother-in-law.
Hemme was serving a life sentence at the Chillicothe Correctional Center for the 1980 stabbing death of library worker Patricia Jeschke in St. Joseph, Missouri.
Horsman, after an extensive review, concluded in June that Hemme was heavily sedated and in a "malleable mental state" when investigators repeatedly questioned her in a psychiatric hospital after the killing. Her attorneys described her ultimate confession as "often monosyllabic responses to leading questions." Other than the confession, no evidence linked her to the crime, her trial prosecutor said.
The St. Joseph Police Department, meanwhile, ignored evidence pointing to Michael Holman — a fellow officer, who died in 2015 — and the prosecution wasn’t told about FBI results that could have cleared Hemme, so it was never disclosed before her trials, the judge found.
Evidence presented to Horsman showed that Holman’s pickup truck was seen outside Jeschke’s apartment, that he tried to use her credit card, and that her earrings were found in his home.
Horsman, in his report, called Hemme “the victim of a manifest injustice.”
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This is not even the first case recently when they refused to release a wrongfully convicted person free in Missouri.Missouri woman who served 43 years in prison is free after her murder conviction was overturned
A woman whose murder conviction was overturned after she served 43 years in prison is now free, despite objections from Missouri’s attorney generalMissouri woman who served 43 years in prison is free after her murder conviction was overturned
A woman whose murder conviction was overturned after she served 43 years of a life sentence was released Friday, despite attempts in the last month by Missouri's attorney general to keep her behind bars.
Hemme had been the longest-held wrongly incarcerated woman known in the U.S., according to her legal team at the Innocence Project. The judge originally ruled on June 14 that Hemme’s attorneys had established “clear and convincing evidence” of “actual innocence” and he overturned her conviction. But Republican Attorney General Andrew Bailey fought her release in the courts.
Horsman ruled on June 14 that "the totality of the evidence supports a finding of actual innocence." A state appeals court ruled on July 8 that Hemme should be set free while it continued to review the case. The next day, July 9, Horsman ruled Hemme should be released to go home with her sister. The Missouri Supreme Court on Thursday declined to undo the lower court rulings that allowed her to be released on her own recognizance and placed with her sister and brother-in-law.
Hemme was serving a life sentence at the Chillicothe Correctional Center for the 1980 stabbing death of library worker Patricia Jeschke in St. Joseph, Missouri.
Horsman, after an extensive review, concluded in June that Hemme was heavily sedated and in a "malleable mental state" when investigators repeatedly questioned her in a psychiatric hospital after the killing. Her attorneys described her ultimate confession as "often monosyllabic responses to leading questions." Other than the confession, no evidence linked her to the crime, her trial prosecutor said.
The St. Joseph Police Department, meanwhile, ignored evidence pointing to Michael Holman — a fellow officer, who died in 2015 — and the prosecution wasn’t told about FBI results that could have cleared Hemme, so it was never disclosed before her trials, the judge found.
Evidence presented to Horsman showed that Holman’s pickup truck was seen outside Jeschke’s apartment, that he tried to use her credit card, and that her earrings were found in his home.
Horsman, in his report, called Hemme “the victim of a manifest injustice.”
GrandmaBear
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if she is innocent she should be free but this article imo is rife with politics and another thing I'd point out is the faith people put into their state supreme courts, etc as this one weighed in here.
and i'm certainly not saying she isn't innocent or shouldn't be free, I have no idea.
I went in to read the actual link because I wanted the answer to if the only thing that linked her was her confession how they came to suspect her in the first place? I didn't find that answer.
It is a natural and obvious question and they fail to give it.
if she's innocent this is horrendous that 40 some years of her life are lost and next of course will be a lawsuit and should be honestly.
however, I don't think it's out of line to want to know how she came under suspicion to begin with. Did they just target her to frame her and close a case? I want that explanation.
Her committing crimes while behind bars is another thing. And one can go both ways on that. I guess it can be argued she couldn't commit a crime in jail if she was never wrongly put in jail. It could also be argued that the fact she did such means she is a threat and that she would do such a thing regardless of where she was. Attacking someone with a razor blade also kind of sounds like someone who could indeed have stabbed someone.
I'm not saying she isn't innocent and I'm not saying incarceration may not have lent to her committing these other acts but there isn't nearly enough information here for me.
And I'd hope that it bothers others that all I see in this article is politics. And politics should never play into the justice system but it does big time these days.
If she did not do it the she should be free. If she did not do it there is something wrong with Missouri's Supreme Court too and again that's back to politics.
Everyone puts so much faith in such things and such are only as good as who is put on such boards of power.
But let's go back to the basics where I would just like to know what lit them onto her to begin with so one can try to come to an opinion of whether she did this crime. That is not shown here whatsoever and again I went in and read the link which I don't always do for lack of time to find that answer and it wasn't there.
Did they just pick someone having mental issues out of the blue and go after her? Was she THERE?
I'm not saying she is not innocent but where is the meat of this and explanation of looking at her to begin with?
Maybe I'm out of line but I think one has to look at the political tones here and look at what has been happening in this country. I'm not saying she is one, she may well be innocent, but release of violent offenders and more and big time politics playing into things. And the woman had further charges while in prison.
I don't mean I would want her incarcerated in the first place for how many darned years EVER, what an unfair nightmare, but again, where is the rest of this story? It's about one party this news has to put in it and re-election and so forth. What in the HE77 should release or incarceration have to do with such playing into a wrongful conviction? It's not what this story is about and should not be but it is laced throughout.
I hope SOMEONE gets what I mean here. Overturn something, release someone if wrongfully convicted, I entirely agree but again there's not a single bit of information of why she was looked at tot begin with.
I need more I guess. This strikes me as political throughout. AND neither her innocence or freedom or the victim's justice should should be affected by politics. I am beyond concerned that that is the case these days.
And I'd go back to the state's Supreme Court. They wouldn't do it and so if proven, and if innocent, then people need to stop putting trust in their courts if they should have backed this judge's decision up and she is innocent. And she may well be with absolutely no proof. I have no idea because again this article tells none of that.
I'll be all for it once I see more facts. They aren't here. They are to me, obviously missing.
and i'm certainly not saying she isn't innocent or shouldn't be free, I have no idea.
I went in to read the actual link because I wanted the answer to if the only thing that linked her was her confession how they came to suspect her in the first place? I didn't find that answer.
It is a natural and obvious question and they fail to give it.
if she's innocent this is horrendous that 40 some years of her life are lost and next of course will be a lawsuit and should be honestly.
however, I don't think it's out of line to want to know how she came under suspicion to begin with. Did they just target her to frame her and close a case? I want that explanation.
Her committing crimes while behind bars is another thing. And one can go both ways on that. I guess it can be argued she couldn't commit a crime in jail if she was never wrongly put in jail. It could also be argued that the fact she did such means she is a threat and that she would do such a thing regardless of where she was. Attacking someone with a razor blade also kind of sounds like someone who could indeed have stabbed someone.
I'm not saying she isn't innocent and I'm not saying incarceration may not have lent to her committing these other acts but there isn't nearly enough information here for me.
And I'd hope that it bothers others that all I see in this article is politics. And politics should never play into the justice system but it does big time these days.
If she did not do it the she should be free. If she did not do it there is something wrong with Missouri's Supreme Court too and again that's back to politics.
Everyone puts so much faith in such things and such are only as good as who is put on such boards of power.
But let's go back to the basics where I would just like to know what lit them onto her to begin with so one can try to come to an opinion of whether she did this crime. That is not shown here whatsoever and again I went in and read the link which I don't always do for lack of time to find that answer and it wasn't there.
Did they just pick someone having mental issues out of the blue and go after her? Was she THERE?
I'm not saying she is not innocent but where is the meat of this and explanation of looking at her to begin with?
Maybe I'm out of line but I think one has to look at the political tones here and look at what has been happening in this country. I'm not saying she is one, she may well be innocent, but release of violent offenders and more and big time politics playing into things. And the woman had further charges while in prison.
I don't mean I would want her incarcerated in the first place for how many darned years EVER, what an unfair nightmare, but again, where is the rest of this story? It's about one party this news has to put in it and re-election and so forth. What in the HE77 should release or incarceration have to do with such playing into a wrongful conviction? It's not what this story is about and should not be but it is laced throughout.
I hope SOMEONE gets what I mean here. Overturn something, release someone if wrongfully convicted, I entirely agree but again there's not a single bit of information of why she was looked at tot begin with.
I need more I guess. This strikes me as political throughout. AND neither her innocence or freedom or the victim's justice should should be affected by politics. I am beyond concerned that that is the case these days.
And I'd go back to the state's Supreme Court. They wouldn't do it and so if proven, and if innocent, then people need to stop putting trust in their courts if they should have backed this judge's decision up and she is innocent. And she may well be with absolutely no proof. I have no idea because again this article tells none of that.
I'll be all for it once I see more facts. They aren't here. They are to me, obviously missing.
Cousin Dupree
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This is not even the first case recently when they refused to release a wrongfully convicted person free in Missouri.
Almost 100% of prosecutors believe they never make mistakes and hate having a mistake made public.
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Plus, it's an election year.
Cousin Dupree
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Personally, I would vote against a guy who won't admit the woman should be free.
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Especially one that has done it more than once.
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They tried to protect their own.
kmbc.com
Kansas City police officer resigns after pleading guilty to assault, harassment charges
A Kansas City police officer has resigned after pleading guilty to harassment and assault charges.
kmbc.com
Cousin Dupree
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They tried to protect their own.
Kansas City police officer resigns after pleading guilty to assault, harassment charges
A Kansas City police officer has resigned after pleading guilty to harassment and assault charges.
A misdemeanor?????
GrandmaBear
Deputized Emu Slayer/Horse Thief Hunter
I am going to agree with you on this one surprise surprise. This is OUTRAGEOUS. By the way the last name Moran is very present in various states and positions of power. From LE to govt. I could say more but not going to. I can even tell you what states to try but here is a new one to me. I'd say it is over present.
This should NOT BE a misdemeanor. We have one that just disappeared from the record as to harassment and included judges and DV etc. same last name. Can't even show it to prove it as it no longer exists. Seriously. Not saying they are related, do not know but you know how the Kennedy name is known well, no one seems to have picked up on the number and differrent states the Moran name in positions crops up in.
This is ME, it s not from some website or other thing. I have noticed it all on my own. It isn't politics, it is not from anywhere, I just keep running into the last name. And ran into it myself some years back, PERSONALLY. It either is as common as the last name Smith or Nelson or I don't know. I know this sounds cryptic but I am not kidding. Positions of power, with that last name, maybe not on the highest level but everywhere.
And look,the perp gets a walk in the park.
Again, I know this sounds cryptic. And weird.
There are Morans all OVER the place in ilocal govs, state, etc.
GrandmaBear
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if you want to delve into something emu, that would be one. however, you aren't going to find some database for it. they can be clerks, "secretaries" in the county, town, county or state, etc. I am curious as to the last name origin because again it pops up everywhere. and again I did not get this from anywhere, it is just something I've noticed. If it was something like Smith back in the day probably wouldn't think it was odd to run into it a lot, or Nelson, Johnson, etc.
Cousin Dupree
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I'll try to update this as quickly as possible. This case is evolving rapidly and it appears the investigation is widening. Help appreciated with actual links as there are many.
This case involves alleged corruption in the millions of dollars.
Former Indiana sheriff charged with 15 felonies: New details emerge on luxury cars, work allegedly done by jail employees
Jamey Noel was arrested earlier this month. He is accused of having county employees work on his personal property and run errands for him while on the clock.
www.whas11.com
GrandmaBear
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isn't this the one that already has a thread? I don't follow it but have seen it come up many times. Unless there's more than one sheriff in trouble. Think it was a sheriff anyhow.
I'll try to update this as quickly as possible. This case is evolving rapidly and it appears the investigation is widening. Help appreciated with actual links as there are many.
This case involves alleged corruption in the millions of dollars.
Former Indiana sheriff charged with 15 felonies: New details emerge on luxury cars, work allegedly done by jail employees
Jamey Noel was arrested earlier this month. He is accused of having county employees work on his personal property and run errands for him while on the clock.
Cousin Dupree
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Yeah, there's a thread, but the story fits here too.
GrandmaBear
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True.
Then maybe reference that in your post.
The part about trying to update as quickly as possible and such makes it sound as if it is new news also.
Just a suggestion. Do as you will.