KY CRYSTAL ROGERS: Missing from Bardstown, KY - 3 July 2015 - Age 35 *ARREST*

Parents of Missing Kentucky Woman Crystal Rogers Suspect Foul Play

The parents of a Kentucky woman last seen 10 days ago suspect foul play in her disappearance.

abcnews.go.com

The parents of a Kentucky woman last seen 10 days ago suspect foul play in her disappearance.

Crystal Rogers, 35, a mother of five, was last seen by her live-in boyfriend, Brooks Houck, on July 3, according to the Nelson County Sheriff’s Office.

Houck has said he had nothing to with Rogers’ disappearance. He has been extremely cooperative with investigators, police said, and he took a polygraph test.

Officer fired after 'tampering with brother's missing girlfriend case'

Mother-of-five Crystal Rogers, 35, was last seen on July 3. Her boyfriend Brooks Houck is the only suspect. His brother Nick was fired from the Bardstown Police Department.

www.dailymail.co.uk

A Kentucky police officer has been fired for allegedly tampering with an investigation regarding the missing girlfriend of his brother, who has just been named the only suspect in her disappearance.

Crystal Rogers, 35, has been missing since July 3. Her boyfriend, Brooks Houck, has claimed the last time he saw the mother of five was the night before, playing games on her phone.

The only clue in Rogers disappearance was her maroon Chevy Impala, which was found unlocked and with a flat tire on Bluegrass Parkway on Saturday.

Inside were her keys, purse and uncharged phone.

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CRYSTAL ROGERS has been missing from Bardstown, #KENTUCKY since 3 July 2015 - Age 35

Crystal, a mother of five, was last seen by her live-in boyfriend, Brooks Houck, on July 3, according to the Nelson County Sheriff’s Office. Houck has said he had nothing to with Rogers’ disappearance. He has been extremely cooperative with...

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[Guess Who]

I know that, what I meant was did each of these places they have searched, this being the most recent, need a warrant? Anyone that has ownership can grant permission. I doubt the suspect's mother granted permission but this hasn't been the only search.

Permission doesn't cover it to not get evidence found thrown out. It 100% does help in getting info for securing a warrant.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Of course there all sorts of variables but generally yes they can and yes such evidence can be used. I am talking about this.

Consent: No Warrant Needed​

Many have called consent an officer’s best friend. The adage comes from the fact that officers can achieve so much with so little as an “okay” from the right person. Indeed, valid consent allows them to search when they don’t have a warrant or any other basis to examine a home.

If officers come by consent (relatively) honestly, the premises to be searched belong to the person granting consent, and the officers limit their search to the areas the consent giver agreed to, then any evidence they find will likely be admissible in court.

Officers don’t need to inform the person that they can refuse to consent. Usually, if officers simply fail to tell someone that a search could lead to criminal prosecution, consent from a resident will be valid. But consent can be invalid when officers mislead a suspect about who or what they’re investigating.

Search Warrants: How They Work and When Officers Need Them

What is a search warrant? And when do police need one? What happens if police don't comply with a warrant? Can a search warrant be challenged?

www.lawyers.com

 

[Guess Who]

Of course there all sorts of variables but generally yes they can and yes such evidence can be used. I am talking about this.

Consent: No Warrant Needed​

Many have called consent an officer’s best friend. The adage comes from the fact that officers can achieve so much with so little as an “okay” from the right person. Indeed, valid consent allows them to search when they don’t have a warrant or any other basis to examine a home.

If officers come by consent (relatively) honestly, the premises to be searched belong to the person granting consent, and the officers limit their search to the areas the consent giver agreed to, then any evidence they find will likely be admissible in court.

Officers don’t need to inform the person that they can refuse to consent. Usually, if officers simply fail to tell someone that a search could lead to criminal prosecution, consent from a resident will be valid. But consent can be invalid when officers mislead a suspect about who or what they’re investigating.

Search Warrants: How They Work and When Officers Need Them

What is a search warrant? And when do police need one? What happens if police don't comply with a warrant? Can a search warrant be challenged?

www.lawyers.com

We've had 3 cases here in the last few years where evidence that was gathered with permission but without a warrant to document the what and why, was thrown out. All it takes is a sympathetic judge.

 

[GrandmaBear]

We've had 3 cases here in the last few years where evidence that was gathered with permission but without a warrant to document the what and why, was thrown out. All it takes is a sympathetic judge.

Which ones?

Like I said there are a lot of variables. And the link goes into that. Multiple owners and roommates and owners and more.

It doesn't matter, it is what I was talking of and yes it is still the law. A sympathetic judge could throw out anything or ruin anything. Wouldn't matter what we were talking about. Doesn't mean it's right.

And warrants get challenged too. Very often. I can think of cases like that as well.

And judges who don't allow testimony that other legal experts believe should have been allowed.

And we could go on.

I doubt it applies in this most recent search anyhow but you sounded like you were saying it had changed and it hasn't.

And yes, it likely does get challenged. As do warrants.

 

[Guess Who]

unreasonable search and seizure

www.law.cornell.edu

To determine whether the consent was valid, courts may evaluate the circumstances when consent was made.

^^^ This is what happened to the cases here and why they want to get a warrant even if they have permission

 

[GrandmaBear]

unreasonable search and seizure

www.law.cornell.edu

To determine whether the consent was valid, courts may evaluate the circumstances when consent was made.

^^^ This is what happened to the cases here and why they want to get a warrant even if they have permission

You said permission doesn't cover it to not get evidence thrown out. But it does in many cases and as it says is LE's best friend or can be. I said there were variables. This is far off track from what I said and my point. Everything nowadays is challenged no doubt when there is nothing else to challenge defense throws all they can on every subject like a shi*t show in many cases.

The law is still where with consent, evidence can be used in most cases. I'm sure the officers know in most areas what they have to watch for in that case.

LOL. I get your points and you get mine I'm sure. It definitely isn't all where the evidence is thrown out or can't be used. It probably is sometimes their only chance in cold cases for instance where years later maybe a new owner might let them dig something up or have access. And NO, I dont mean this one with this last remark, just generally.

Don't make me get the pillows out!! Or the asparagus spear!!! So far no frying pan deserved...

 

[Guess Who]

You said permission doesn't cover it to not get evidence thrown out. But it does in many cases and as it says is LE's best friend or can be. I said there were variables. This is far off track from what I said and my point. Everything nowadays is challenged no doubt when there is nothing else to challenge defense throws all they can on every subject like a shi*t show in many cases.

The law is still where with consent, evidence can be used in most cases. I'm sure the officers know in most areas what they have to watch for in that case.

LOL. I get your points and you get mine I'm sure. It definitely isn't all where the evidence is thrown out or can't be used. It probably is sometimes their only chance in cold cases for instance where years later maybe a new owner might let them dig something up or have access. And NO, I dont mean this one with this last remark, just generally.

Don't make me get the pillows out!! Or the asparagus spear!!! So far no frying pan deserved...

Definitely not saying it doesn't happen. Just can not understand at all why in a probable murder case they would even take that chance. Smaller crimes, sure.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Definitely not saying it doesn't happen. Just can not understand at all why in a probable murder case they would even take that chance. Smaller crimes, sure.

Because if they can't get a warrant with a judge signing off which does take some required things and if a strict law abiding judge, maybe can't get one then the next hope they have before more evidence disappears or time passes is to get an owner's, etc. permission. I would hope they would try and do all they can.

And again now I am talking this case, any case and generally as to the law and what they can or can't do.

Jmo.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Or use as evidence.

 

[Guess Who]

Because if they can't get a warrant with a judge signing off which does take some required things and if a strict law abiding judge, maybe can't get one then the next hope they have before more evidence disappears or time passes is to get an owner's, etc. permission. I would hope they would try and do all they can.

And again now I am talking this case, any case and generally as to the law and what they can or can't do.

Jmo.

and then when the defense attorney gets wind of not having a warrant and why they don't have one comes up and gets everything from the search tossed. It happens.

 

[RoundPeg]

I'm a bit behind on this one. Did they search this property without a warrant?

 

[Kimster]

I'm a bit behind on this one. Did they search this property without a warrant?

I’m not sure? I think they were just discussing the ins and outs of searching with a warrant or just with permission.

 

[Guess Who]

I'm a bit behind on this one. Did they search this property without a warrant?

I don't think it's been stated publicly. We were just discussing what can happen if they don't get one.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Suspect in disappearance of Crystal Rogers trying to open day care in Bardstown

Brooks Houck wants to turn a church he owns into a daycare.

www.wdrb.com

Suspect in disappearance of Crystal Rogers trying to open day care in Bardstown​

Documents show Brooks Houck filed for a permit application on Aug. 17 with Nelson County Planning and Zoning on the former People's Church building he owns at 114 Wildcat Lane. He wants to change the building's use from church to day care.

However, the location sits across the street from the storage business owned by Rogers' mother, Sherry Ballard. She calls the day care plans "absurd and unusual" and believes it is no coincidence.

"I think it's taunting for me," she said Tuesday. "Am I comfortable with him being across the street form me? Of course, I am not.

"No. 1, I'm shocked that someone that's a main suspect in a disappearance of a mother can even try to open a day care. I would be totally shocked if anyone sent their kids to that day care. I cannot imagine that happening."

A petition at the local Liberty Tax was started by Don Thrasher to prevent Houck from opening a day care.

"We need to bring it to peoples attention and formally ask the Kentucky Division of Regulated Childcare to withhold any licensing, because I believe he has questionable character," Thrasher said.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Main suspect in Crystal Rogers' disappearance arrested for traffic violations

The main suspect in Crystal Rogers' disappearance was taken in custody Thursday because of several unpaid traffic citation fines.

www.whas11.com

Main suspect in Crystal Rogers' disappearance arrested for traffic violations​

Nelson County Sheriff deputies served a warrant on Brooks Houck at a Bardstown subdivision where he was working. He was taken into custody and booked into the Nelson County Jail.

Houck was arrested on a bench warrant for failure to pay traffic citation fines, according to court records. The charge listed on the Nelson County Jail website read, "non-payment of court costs, fees or fines."

Houck was charged with seven traffic violations including improper use of farm plates, no or improper licenses in December of 2021.

The prosecutor later dismissed five of the seven charges, and Houck pleaded guilty to two charges in January of this year. He was ordered to pay a series of fines in April of this year, and granted "installment payments."

According to court records, Houck owed $353 to the courts. A warrant was issued for his arrest on Monday, Oct. 31, under KRS 534.060 which says:

"When a fine is imposed on a corporation, it is the duty of the person or persons authorized to make disbursement of the assets of the corporation and their superiors to pay the fine from assets of the corporation. The failure of such persons to do so shall render them subject to imprisonment under subsections (1) and (2) of this section."

Houck was most recently cited on Nov. 1, for "failure to wear seatbelt."

He was in jail for a short time before he posted bail.

These charges do not appear to be connected to the disappearance of Crystal Rogers in any way.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Main suspect in Crystal Rogers' disappearance arrested for traffic violations

The main suspect in Crystal Rogers' disappearance was taken in custody Thursday because of several unpaid traffic citation fines.

www.whas11.com

Main suspect in Crystal Rogers' disappearance arrested for traffic violations​

Nelson County Sheriff deputies served a warrant on Brooks Houck at a Bardstown subdivision where he was working. He was taken into custody and booked into the Nelson County Jail.

Houck was arrested on a bench warrant for failure to pay traffic citation fines, according to court records. The charge listed on the Nelson County Jail website read, "non-payment of court costs, fees or fines."

Houck was charged with seven traffic violations including improper use of farm plates, no or improper licenses in December of 2021.

The prosecutor later dismissed five of the seven charges, and Houck pleaded guilty to two charges in January of this year. He was ordered to pay a series of fines in April of this year, and granted "installment payments."

According to court records, Houck owed $353 to the courts. A warrant was issued for his arrest on Monday, Oct. 31, under KRS 534.060 which says:

"When a fine is imposed on a corporation, it is the duty of the person or persons authorized to make disbursement of the assets of the corporation and their superiors to pay the fine from assets of the corporation. The failure of such persons to do so shall render them subject to imprisonment under subsections (1) and (2) of this section."

Houck was most recently cited on Nov. 1, for "failure to wear seatbelt."

He was in jail for a short time before he posted bail.

These charges do not appear to be connected to the disappearance of Crystal Rogers in any way.

They're annoying him.

 

[RoundPeg]

Its pretty bad when you have enough equipment violations to get stuck in jail.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Suspect in disappearance of Crystal Rogers trying to open day care in Bardstown

Brooks Houck wants to turn a church he owns into a daycare.

www.wdrb.com

Suspect in disappearance of Crystal Rogers trying to open day care in Bardstown​

Documents show Brooks Houck filed for a permit application on Aug. 17 with Nelson County Planning and Zoning on the former People's Church building he owns at 114 Wildcat Lane. He wants to change the building's use from church to day care.

However, the location sits across the street from the storage business owned by Rogers' mother, Sherry Ballard. She calls the day care plans "absurd and unusual" and believes it is no coincidence.

"I think it's taunting for me," she said Tuesday. "Am I comfortable with him being across the street form me? Of course, I am not.

"No. 1, I'm shocked that someone that's a main suspect in a disappearance of a mother can even try to open a day care. I would be totally shocked if anyone sent their kids to that day care. I cannot imagine that happening."

A petition at the local Liberty Tax was started by Don Thrasher to prevent Houck from opening a day care.

"We need to bring it to peoples attention and formally ask the Kentucky Division of Regulated Childcare to withhold any licensing, because I believe he has questionable character," Thrasher said.

Un-flipping-believable! I know the type whether they murder or taunt and have to go for reaction and to show and flaunt no one can do anything about it. And apparently the courts can't....??

Such a world this is.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Its pretty bad when you have enough equipment violations to get stuck in jail.

yeah but they dismissed five of seven charges. or something like that it said but of course i guess since they do such in so many cases if they didn't in his he could yell that they are doing it to him unfairly and for a reason...

disgusting man who i believe murdered.

 

[Guess Who]

Its pretty bad when you have enough equipment violations to get stuck in jail.

It also shows his blatant disregard of laws and consequences.