UT DYLAN ROUNDS: Missing from Lucin, UT - 28 May 2022 - Age 19 *Found Deceased**GUILTY PLEA*

Family offering $20,000 reward for man who disappeared after 'weird run-in' with stranger - East Idaho News

IDAHO FALLS – A 19-year-old man with ties to eastern Idaho has been missing since Saturday morning and his family is working with law enforcement to find him. Katie Wells of Rigby tells EastIdahoNews.com her nephew, Dylan Rounds, was last seen Saturday in Lucin, Utah, on the farm where he is...

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Family offering $20,000 reward for man who disappeared after ‘weird run-in’ with stranger​

Katie Wells of Rigby tells EastIdahoNews.com her nephew, Dylan Rounds, was last seen Saturday in Lucin, Utah, on the farm where he is working. Rounds apparently called several family members last Wednesday after having a “weird run-in” with a guy on a gravel road.

“The man was walking down the gravel road barefoot. He flagged Dylan down, who was in his truck. He asked to use Dylan’s phone and was acting erratically. Dylan felt the man was dangerous and may have been high. When he asked Dylan for a ride, (Dylan) did not give him a ride,” Wells explains.

Wells says the man was spotted in Montello, Nevada several days later asking about Dylan and there are reports that the man got a ride to Dylan’s trailer on Saturday.


“We don’t believe anything was ransacked,” Wells explains. “Dylan is missing, his phone is missing and his wallet.”

Noting Dylan’s age, Wells says some people seem to think Dylan ran off, but she suspects foul play.

“He is an old soul, farm boy at heart. All he wants to do is get up and work all day every day. He isn’t interested in partying, he isn’t interested in travel. He never dated in high school. He’s not your typical 19-year-old,” Wells says.

Dylan’s mom, Candice Cooley, lives in Twin Falls and his dad, Justin Rounds, lives in Ucon. They are actively involved in the search and are offering a $20,000 reward to anyone who finds him or knows where he might be.


MEDIA - DYLAN ROUNDS: Missing from Lucin, UT since 28 May 2022 - Age 19

 

[GrandmaBear]

What I am saying is that they do not do it for the account holder at all. Not text transcripts. They do not know what is just nosiness vs real concern without LE intervention. LE is who has to request the warrant. Why the sheriffs dept hasn't done that is the real question.

Still, I disagree with it. They should at least be able to submit a request and pay for it for the account holder and if they can show an open case, it should be provided on a more urgent basis. Jmo of course and my opinion sure won't change their ways.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I watch a LOT of YouTubers who investigate old mining caves. I wonder if there are any out there from that area? I'll have to search YouTube later when I have some time.

I don't know but it does sound like TX Eq is sending an arsenal of various drones and other equipment. Heat seeking, night vision and I thought some type of thing that would help with mines... They've also had other volunteers including dog handlers and dogs and search teams etc.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Watch out. Same kinds of rumors circulated in the Brittanee Drexel case and it was FALSE information. But, same in Holly Bobo's case and those rumors were true! Just keep ourselves in check, is all.

Well the mother relayed it and she is keeping the case based on facts as much as possible. And yes she was saying his story changed constantly and there was no truth found to it but just putting it out there as having no basis at this time plus it does seem it is the source of some of the misinformation or conflicting dates, etc. in the news which makes the news a bit harder to trust as fact--it also kind of puts this Kurt guy on the radar or he did that himself I guess.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I thought it was said that Kurt's dad is the bar owner...

No idea, pretty sure she said he was BUT it could be like grandpa and Dylan both owning the farm... Family owned so to speak.

 

[Regina]

I think grandma called him. They keep saying it the other way around but in one interview mom did say grandma called, and Dylan said he couldn't talk cause he had to get the truck in. Because you're right. It wouldn't make sense for him to call her only to say he couldn't talk.

Well, even that press release from ELKO County wasn't/isn't completely clear to me, I mean, it says that the call to the grandmother was from his farm but then it goes on to say "the last cell communication from Dylan's phone was...near his farm...(and) Dylan disappeared sometime after he made that call."

 

[Guess Who]

Odd they'd keep saying he called her. Maybe she called him, he missed the call and called her right back quick saying he couldn't talk or something like that.

Yeah by the end of the video Duty Ron named the case and family. Not necessary I agree. These channels do though get these cases out there and keep attention on them so I will say that. Dylan's mom was probably happy to have the support and again they are partnering pretty heavy with Texas Eq, they are raising money for them and families all of the time on this channel.

I saw something about the grain being okay as well.

By the end of the video I did hear the grain was checked or read it somewhere and you confirm it too so good to know that.

I don't know, even if the phone belongs to an adult, it all is technically his dad's. There is a missing person here and they have the account holder, their customer, needing the info in a timely/quick fashion. Doesn't seem right and seems unnecessary.

again it's just the text transcripts they won't give. They will give him the logs of calls and texts, just not the transcripts of the texts and they do that for the reasons I listed above.

 

[Guess Who]

Still, I disagree with it. They should at least be able to submit a request and pay for it for the account holder and if they can show an open case, it should be provided on a more urgent basis. Jmo of course and my opinion sure won't change their ways.

it uses a LOT of resources to do that and if they did provide that service, too many would be taking advantage of it for the wrong reasons and that is why they don't. Too many openings for lawsuits, for one.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well, even that press release from ELKO County wasn't/isn't completely clear to me, I mean, it says that the call to the grandmother was from his farm but then it goes on to say "the last cell communication from Dylan's phone was...near his farm...(and) Dylan disappeared sometime after he made that call."

Much is confusing in this case but maybe they mean the last communication was the later "ping" and not the call? "His" farm is confusing also as to where they mean sometimes... Various locations in this case...

 

[GrandmaBear]

it uses a LOT of resources to do that and if they did provide that service, too many would be taking advantage of it for the wrong reasons and that is why they don't. Too many openings for lawsuits, for one.

Being sued for giving an account holder his own information if that is even a possibility these days is wrong. It takes major resources to get years of copies of your own medical records and such too but you have a right to them and can get them quickly. Whether he is 19 or not, it was his dad's account. You know darned well that in such a case with bank records, they would be accessible too.

Anyhow, at least or hopefully it sounds like they have the times and contact info but clearly we are not being told all because that phone likely went off radar at some point. I wonder when and where... Was it with that last ping mentioned...?

 

[Guess Who]

Being sued for giving an account holder his own information if that is even a possibility these days is wrong. It takes major resources to get years of copies of your own medical records and such too but you have a right to them and can get them quickly. Whether he is 19 or not, it was his dad's account. You know darned well that in such a case with bank records, they would be accessible too.

Anyhow, at least or hopefully it sounds like they have the times and contact info but clearly we are not being told all because that phone likely went off radar at some point. I wonder when and where... Was it with that last ping mentioned...?

can you imagine if a company requested the transcripts of texts of every company owned phone? What about abused spouses trying to get away from the abuse? It's a slippery slope and they have chose not to go down it for good reasons.

The owner of the phone can request call info and text info that will tell them who was called or texted between, just not the transcripts of the texts. You wouldn't want your spouse (example only) to have access to your texts at a whim, any time he felt like asking for them, would you, even if you were doing absolutely nothing wrong? What you are wanting would make that possible if you had a shared account. Any employer could do that and what if you were just blowing steam and the employer saw it and fired you for something that was nothing. Some companies have thousands of company cell phones. Can you imagine if they did this?

 

[Guess Who]

Being sued for giving an account holder his own information if that is even a possibility these days is wrong. It takes major resources to get years of copies of your own medical records and such too but you have a right to them and can get them quickly. Whether he is 19 or not, it was his dad's account. You know darned well that in such a case with bank records, they would be accessible too.

Anyhow, at least or hopefully it sounds like they have the times and contact info but clearly we are not being told all because that phone likely went off radar at some point. I wonder when and where... Was it with that last ping mentioned...?

Again, why hasn't the sheriff's dept requested this? I really am leaning to believe the mom that they are not doing much at all and their explanation was bs. OR they might have and not let the parents know or it's just not back yet. It can take weeks for the info to get back to them.

 

[Regina]

Much is confusing in this case but maybe they mean the last communication was the later "ping" and not the call? "His" farm is confusing also as to where they mean sometimes... Various locations in this case...

Well, the media is still saying things like "boots found near his truck at his farm", but personally, I've always understood that there are two locations, 5 miles apart.
What's clear to me since that last video is that the 640 acres is where his farm is and that other property belongs to somebody else, although, there's info he was "working on" buying that, too.
About the cell info from Elko Co, I just find it confusing because first they say from the farm, but go on to describe it as near...Also, they say last "cell communication" rather than "ping".

 

[GrandmaBear]

can you imagine if a company requested the transcripts of texts of every company owned phone? What about abused spouses trying to get away from the abuse? It's a slippery slope and they have chose not to go down it for good reasons.

The owner of the phone can request call info and text info that will tell them who was called or texted between, just not the transcripts of the texts. You wouldn't want your spouse (example only) to have access to your texts at a whim, any time he felt like asking for them, would you, even if you were doing absolutely nothing wrong? What you are wanting would make that possible if you had a shared account. Any employer could do that and what if you were just blowing steam and the employer saw it and fired you for something that was nothing. Some companies have thousands of company cell phones. Can you imagine if they did this?

It's what they do and the rules they have so it isn't worth going on about but no, I disagree. If you want privacy, you keep your own account and on top of that cell phones or internet and privacy are debatable anyhow. Both spouses can access just about anything else that is joint at any time and if you share a cell phone account you can also track the other or your children so that really doesn't compute to me. As for an employer if they provide the phone and service well you darned well better be aware of it and the same with email and if an employer wants to secretly camera the workplace. That's all legal in most places to my knowledge and you have no expectation of privacy in those cases.

I can see the burden of providing the cell phone records but for most things out there if you fill out the appropriate request and authorization, records are provided for instance, as I said, medical records of your own. That's a burdensome one for med facilities and many hire outside companies or contractors to take care of records just as some do for the burdensome billing and coding.

And I'm not talking about getting records quickly on a whim. We are talking about crimes here or missing people where time matters, I think there should be an avenue when the father here IS the account holder without question.

We don't have to agree and I don't agree.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Again, why hasn't the sheriff's dept requested this? I really am leaning to believe the mom that they are not doing much at all and their explanation was bs. OR they might have and not let the parents know or it's just not back yet. It can take weeks for the info to get back to them.

Apparently they lied about not knowing how to access phone records, etc. and then they said something else and claimed the grandma misunderstood but mom said no she didn't, they had recorded the conversation and she listened to it.

I don't know either--I think the mom is expecting things that no department would do much differently, even if they should do it better. They don't share all with family and it isn't unusual to separate family members in what they tell them either or have a different detective talk to each family member. Been there. On the other hand, they are not doing some things or being responsive to the family until she complains publicly apparently and that's not okay by a long shot either AND it sounds as if they have outright lied. The handling of the boots is questionable. The sheriff's wife making contact sure raises eyebrows... Etc.

 

[Guess Who]

Apparently they lied about not knowing how to access phone records, etc. and then they said something else and claimed the grandma misunderstood but mom said no she didn't, they had recorded the conversation and she listened to it.

I don't know either--I think the mom is expecting things that no department would do much differently, even if they should do it better. They don't share all with family and it isn't unusual to separate family members in what they tell them either or have a different detective talk to each family member. Been there. On the other hand, they are not doing some things or being responsive to the family until she complains publicly apparently and that's not okay by a long shot either AND it sounds as if they have outright lied. The handling of the boots is questionable. The sheriff's wife making contact sure raises eyebrows... Etc.

for text transcripts...not just text info...they couldn't access anyway. They know how to get subpoenas, I am sure of that. Why they haven't, IF they actually haven't, is beyond me. The more this sheriffs department tries to justify themselves, only leads me to believe the mom more.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well, the media is still saying things like "boots found near his truck at his farm", but personally, I've always understood that there are two locations, 5 miles apart.
What's clear to me since that last video is that the 640 acres is where his farm is and that other property belongs to somebody else, although, there's info he was "working on" buying that, too.
About the cell info from Elko Co, I just find it confusing because first they say from the farm, but go on to describe it as near...Also, they say last "cell communication" rather than "ping".

I think maybe because there are two locations and then a 640 acre family farm and then at times we hear "his farm" and then there is the other guy whose property yes he wants to buy which is another farm I guess PLUS it is said Dylan already has bought a bit of land from him or something like that etc. and I think the number of different "farms" or whose is whose or whose do they mean when they say farm in each case is adding to the confusion.

I get the impression Dylan isn't on the family farm or land but on the land he got from this other farmer that he plants but I may have that wrong.

 

[GrandmaBear]

for text transcripts...not just text info...they couldn't access anyway. They know how to get subpoenas, I am sure of that. Why they haven't, IF they actually haven't, is beyond me. The more this sheriffs department tries to justify themselves, only leads me to believe the mom more.

LE should have to have warrants or cause now there I agree transcripts would be private unless a case/cause. However, I would think with he and his phone and more missing and all of his vehicles present, they likely have ample cause and I sure hope they got after it by now...

 

[Regina]

The handling of the boots is questionable.

Re the boots, I recall it (do you?) in that video where it was said that the spot on the boots was positively blood, yet there was no mention/question as to whether it was compared.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Re the boots, I recall it (do you?) in that video where it was said that the spot on the boots was positively blood, yet there was no mention/question as to whether it was compared.

Yeah and they weren't taken and protected as evidence and were not turned in right away the way it sounded. If they do compare or test the blood, not sure they have not compromised the boots as evidence.

 

[Regina]

Yeah and they weren't taken and protected as evidence and were not turned in right away the way it sounded. If they do compare or test the blood, not sure they have not compromised the boots as evidence.

Yeah, it's inexplicable that if it appeared to be blood, why it wasn't properly collected and analyzed (and to my point, once confirmed, DNA tested and compared), but apart from that circumstance and despite the environment and that it was days later, there should have been an attempt to collect some other source of DNA.