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Jeffrey Epstein Confidante Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested on Sex Abuse Charges

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and heiress who became a confidante of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and was later implicated in his alleged sexual crimes, has been arrested by the FBI. She was arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire, around 8:30 a.m. Thursday on charges she conspired...

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*Didn't Harry lose his security when he moved to the US?

Calls for Prince Andrew to lose dukedom and police protection as Charles refuses to comment

The Labour MP for York Central, Rachael Maskell, says it is "untenable" for Andrew to remain a duke, and the organisation Republic says "lots of celebrities and other high-profile people pay for their own security".

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Given there is little chance of the Queen's second son returning to royal duties, Graham Smith, head of Republic, which campaigns for an elected head of state, said Andrew should pay for protection out of his own pocket.

Andrew is "no longer in any real sense a member of the royal household", Mr Smith said, and "lots of celebrities and other high-profile people pay for their own security".

 

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*Didn't Harry lose his security when he moved to the US?

Calls for Prince Andrew to lose dukedom and police protection as Charles refuses to comment

The Labour MP for York Central, Rachael Maskell, says it is "untenable" for Andrew to remain a duke, and the organisation Republic says "lots of celebrities and other high-profile people pay for their own security".

news.sky.com

Given there is little chance of the Queen's second son returning to royal duties, Graham Smith, head of Republic, which campaigns for an elected head of state, said Andrew should pay for protection out of his own pocket.

Andrew is "no longer in any real sense a member of the royal household", Mr Smith said, and "lots of celebrities and other high-profile people pay for their own security".

AFAIK Prince Harry only lost his security because he left the UK. He would have to pay for it himself outside the UK unless he was on official business. Prince Andrew will still keep his paid security, in the UK at least. Whether his security is paid for or not luckily has nothing to do with Mr. Smith and Republic. Only our head of state makes that decision.

 

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This article has a bit more background about the possible identities of 8 John Does. Guiffre wants the names revealed and Maxwell lawyers are no longer opposing it so it is now up to the individuals themselves and the judge as to whether the identities are released.

 

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This article has a bit more background about the possible identities of 8 John Does. Guiffre wants the names revealed and Maxwell lawyers are no longer opposing it so it is now up to the individuals themselves and the judge as to whether the identities are released.

So Virginia named these men in her civil suit? I'm surprised Ghislaine isn't pursuing keeping the names under seal. What other persons could cause a media circus that we don't know about? I'm intrigued.

 

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So Virginia named these men in her civil suit? I'm surprised Ghislaine isn't pursuing keeping the names under seal. What other persons could cause a media circus that we don't know about? I'm intrigued.

One is supposedly an ex PM and I have no clue who it is.

Not sure if I posted this Sun article but quite a few possibles are mentioned.

Clinton, Trump & 'mystery PM' could face humiliation in unsealed Epstein docs

BILL Clinton, Donald Trump, a mystery Prime Minister, and other rich & famous people could face humiliation in a new court bid by Prince Andrew’s accuser to unseal secret documents. Virgi…

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WHO'S NEXT?

"And now the questions are who are these Joe Does? What are their links to Epstein? and what other revelations could be in the documents?
Virginia in other unsealed documents from the case described seeing Clinton on Epstein's island and described Trump as a "friend" of Epstein.
Neither former president has even been accused of wrongdoing over their association with Epstein and Maxwell.

And in other previously released documents from the same case it is mentioned she was trafficked to a "Prime Minister", "foreign presidents" and "many other powerful men".
Its unclear which country the alleged mystery PM is from.
Virginia also made specific allegations she was trafficked to Epstein's lawyer Alan Dershowitz, model scout Jean Luc Brunel, billionaire Glenn Dublin, former US Senator George Mitchell, and New Mexico governor Bill Richardson - all which are strongly denied by the men."

"And in one unsealed file written by US District Judge Robert Sweet, he says Roberts claims she was forced to have sex with "many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister, and other world leaders".

Numerous high profile names were dropped during Maxwell's trial for sex trafficking - including Trump, Clinton and Andrew.

Others named include Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, violinist Itzhak Perlman, and US Senators John Glenn & George Mitchell.

Once again - none have ever been accused of wrongdoing and it shows the web of the rich and powerful insidiously assembled by Epstein and Maxwell.

The paedophile couple hid in plain sight as they used their fame and fortune to intimidate their victims.

Clinton and Trump are both known to have been pals with Epstein.

Clinton is known to have taken flights aboard Epstein's plane - and has previously been pictured with both him and Maxwell.

He was snapped chomping on a cigar aboard the Lolita Express, and also pictured with alleged sex slave Chauntae Davies.

Virginia claimed in other documents relating to the 2015 lawsuit that she saw Clinton with "two beautiful girls" on Epstein's private island Little St James."

 

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Sentencing on June 28th plus defence motion for a new trial should be in by 19th Jan.

Ghislaine Maxwell will learn her prison fate in June

Ghislaine Maxwell is scheduled to be sentenced in her sex trafficking case at the end of June, a federal judge said Friday. Judge Alison Nathan wrote in a letter Friday that the convicted sex…

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This earlier article confirms prosecutors will drop perjury charges at sentencing if no retrial is ordered.

Prosecutors and defense disagree on Ghislaine Maxwell sentencing date

Prosecutors are seeking a sentencing date for sex trafficker Maxwell, but her attorneys want to wait until they know if she’ll face another trial.

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Virginia Giuffre seeks testimony from Prince Andrew’s former assistant | Prince Andrew | The Guardian

Attorneys say they have ‘reason to believe’ that Robert Olney has ‘relevant information’ about duke’s relationship with Epstein

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Giuffre’s lawyers also wrote in court filings that Olney’s name “appears in publicly available copies of Epstein’s phone book”.

The attorneys said in court filings that they would like to question Olney about Andrew’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. Giuffre’s lawyers also said they wanted to ask him about “any communications with or regarding plaintiff,”, as well as Andrew’s travel to New York City and “to or from any of Jeffrey Epstein’s homes”.

Giuffre’s attorneys have also requested testimony from Shukri Walker, who said that she saw Andrew at Tramp nightclub in London “with a young girl around the time that plaintiff contends Prince Andrew abused her in London after visiting Tramp Nightclub.

“Because Prince Andrew has denied ever meeting plaintiff or being at Tramp Nightclub during the relevant time period, Ms Walker’s testimony is highly relevant,” Giuffre’s lawyers wrote.

Walker’s name has previously surfaced as a potential witness to Giuffre’s interactions with Andrew at Tramp nightclub. Her attorney, Lisa Bloom, previously told the Guardian: “My client says she was there and she remembers the night clearly because she never saw a royal before or since.

 

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Although this is a few years old I just had to post it for the pics alone.

The Prince Who Did Not Sweat: The Royal’s “proof” that he did not rape an underage girl

There are only three ways to explain Andrew’s friendship with Epstein: The first is that he knowingly associated with a convicted sex offender, because he did not regard that as a disqualific…

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I am wondering if Maxwell is going to turn "Queen's evidence" as we call it. She will never get a title but this could be her "get out of jail free" card.

Queen's evidence

noun
ENGLISH LAW

1. evidence for the prosecution given by a participant in or accomplice to the crime being tried.
   "what happens if they turn Queen's evidence ?"

 

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Although this is a few years old I just had to post it for the pics alone.

The Prince Who Did Not Sweat: The Royal’s “proof” that he did not rape an underage girl

There are only three ways to explain Andrew’s friendship with Epstein: The first is that he knowingly associated with a convicted sex offender, because he did not regard that as a disqualific…

businessmanagement.news

I am wondering if Maxwell is going to turn "Queen's evidence" as we call it. She will never get a title but this could be her "get out of jail free" card.

Queen's evidence

noun
ENGLISH LAW

1. evidence for the prosecution given by a participant in or accomplice to the crime being tried.
   "what happens if they turn Queen's evidence ?"

Who was that woman, not that it really matters.

Queen's evidence..ok, what is that exactly?

 

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Who was that woman, not that it really matters.

Queen's evidence..ok, what is that exactly?

Become a witness for the prosecution. Eg become a witness against Prince Andrew on behalf of the prosecution. I don't know who this woman was but it was in St Tropez according to the article. Lol.

If Maxwell does end up as a witness for the prosecution, could she end up in the witness protection program? The people she would be turning Queen's evidence against are some of the most powerful and influential people on the planet. They would have to protect her. Could that work?

 

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The lawyers for Guiffre are wasting money pursuing Olney, Prince Andrew's Equerry. According to his LinkedIn he worked for him from 2002- 2004.

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I am probably 15 to 20 pages behind in here for reading. Haven't stayed up on it since conviction so one of these days I have to go back to where I left off and read.

Just have to say though the phrase "queen's evidence" is quite ironic in this case. I"m sure it applies to any case in which that would happen but in this case, it happens to involve that very queen's son...

 

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The lawyers for Guiffre are wasting money pursuing Olney, Prince Andrew's Equerry. According to his LinkedIn he worked for him from 2002- 2004.

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• Managing a team of account managers processing all UK Airspace Change Proposals including Future Airspace Strategy Implementation North and South as part of the largest modernisation of UK airspace in over 50 years.
• Leading departmental transformation for 110+ staff.
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So, he wouldn't have any cooborating evidence to support Virginia's claims, correct? I wonder what they 'think' he could testify about.

*Whoever that woman is in that pic, I hope she stays anonymous but it does show Andrew's love of partying.

 

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Become a witness for the prosecution. Eg become a witness against Prince Andrew on behalf of the prosecution. I don't know who this woman was but it was in St Tropez according to the article. Lol.

If Maxwell does end up as a witness for the prosecution, could she end up in the witness protection program? The people she would be turning Queen's evidence against are some of the most powerful and influential people on the planet. They would have to protect her. Could that work?

If Maxwell turned on Andrew then she'd be admitting of her wrongdoings. While I don't see that happening it would give this case a new twist.

 

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If Maxwell turned on Andrew then she'd be admitting of her wrongdoings. While I don't see that happening it would give this case a new twist.

They already know all about Andrew though, so it would be the others IMO. I think her defence will be advising her to do it so she can get a reduced sentence.

 

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I am probably 15 to 20 pages behind in here for reading. Haven't stayed up on it since conviction so one of these days I have to go back to where I left off and read.

Just have to say though the phrase "queen's evidence" is quite ironic in this case. I"m sure it applies to any case in which that would happen but in this case, it happens to involve that very queen's son...

The term dates back to the 1500's apparently. After the American War of Independence it was changed in the US to "turn state's evidence". I agree it would be ironic and historic though, if it happened.

 

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So, he wouldn't have any cooborating evidence to support Virginia's claims, correct? I wonder what they 'think' he could testify about.

*Whoever that woman is in that pic, I hope she stays anonymous but it does show Andrew's love of partying.

By 2002 I think Roberts was back in Oz but not exactly sure of the timeline. She turned 18 in summer 2001, I believe.

 

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If Olney was in the books and worked for Andrew, I don't see what difference it makes when or how that means he is not worthwhile or knows something? They clearly want to talk to him for a reason.

When he worked for him doesn't mean he doesn't know things nor does it mean they weren't friendly, saw each other, stayed in touch, etc. does it or did I miss something? It says it is about his relationship with Epstein for one... I may have not a full understanding or missed something as I have not read back or into it more.

If I were them, I'd certainly question anyone who possibly had info and on top of it, they probably have info from their client of who knew things, who likely knew things and who to question. Jmo.

 

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I also think the sentencing not being until June is absolutely ridiculous. Imo. Another half of a year.

 

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They already know all about Andrew though, so it would be the others IMO. I think her defence will be advising her to do it so she can get a reduced sentence.

I think too her main reasons would be quite possibly to minimize the sentence although I'm not sure this woman would admit guilt for that purpose or not.

Sometimes too there may be with some people this attitude well "if I'm going down, I might as well take everyone else with me"... Appeals notwithstanding, she has fought the fight proclaiming innocence and it didn't work so who knows...

Most people have some grudging respect for the truth and if she actually told all, she might be looked on a bit more favorably by some even if they abhor the actions of her and Epstein. However, the flip side is she would be very disliked by more "important" types she names and their circles possibly so in the end, I'm not sure she'd want that.