Epstein, Maxwell et al: exposed in child sex trafficking

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Do we have a Jefferey Epstein thread?

 
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I think there must be another indictment also, or a revised one. That one only has six charges, including the two perjury charges. They were dropped and 2 more charges must have been added for the Carolyn charges to bring it back up to the final 6 charges against her.

ETA according to this article, the Carolyn charges were added at a later date.

Thank you! I'll pull up the court case in PACER and see if I can download the revised document from there.

As for the perjury charges, I thought those would be decided at a separate trial. The prosecution was waiting to determine the outcome of a mistrial determination by Judge Nathan first. I could have misunderstood though.

*edited to add the superseding indictment
 
@Tresir I found this article where an opinion is given that Ghislaine's sentence may be far lower than most would expect. I thought this might of interest & give weight to your points made about a short incarceration.

 
Per the article I referenced above I found the 2004 Federal Sentencing Guidelines. It is a LARGE file however it explains in greater detail the specific legal 'weight' that can be applied to each guilty count.

 
@Tresir I found this article where an opinion is given that Ghislaine's sentence may be far lower than most would expect. I thought this might of interest & give weight to your points made about a short incarceration.

Interesting. Certainly in the UK, financial crimes often have the longest sentences, much more than other offences. In this case it is a first offence and she is not a career criminal. So, yes, she was a flight risk due to her French and British citizenship, yet she did not leave the US, when she quite clearly could have done, legally, and if she had fled to France, I don't think there is extradition from there to the US. Yet she did not flee. Her time in jail will benefit her and count against her sentence. My estimate is she will get 10 years, but it could be time served and probation due to no priors.
 
Interesting. Certainly in the UK, financial crimes often have the longest sentences, much more than other offences. In this case it is a first offence and she is not a career criminal. So, yes, she was a flight risk due to her French and British citizenship, yet she did not leave the US, when she quite clearly could have done, legally, and if she had fled to France, I don't think there is extradition from there to the US. Yet she did not flee. Her time in jail will benefit her and count against her sentence. My estimate is she will get 10 years, but it could be time served and probation due to no priors.
After reading, probably too much lol, I have to agree. Given Ghislaine's age and her co conspirator's death the chances of recividism are very low. I don't believe she'll be sentenced to more than 10 years.
 
After reading, probably too much lol, I have to agree. Given Ghislaine's age and her co conspirator's death the chances of recividism are very low. I don't believe she'll be sentenced to more than 10 years.
plus she will most likely also have time served deducted.
 
Interesting article (from February) that addresses some of the questions about others involved, sentencing, the Epstein fund plus a new window opening in September for victims.

I have to wonder, after reading that article, who is benefiting from the money still in Epstein's estate.
 
Any residue would go to his brother I guess. I wonder why nothing has been done about pursuing him as the owner of the block of apartments where many of the victims were housed.


This is an article about his will, his executors and possible beneficiary.

 
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Any residue would go to his brother I guess. I wonder why nothing has been done about pursuing him as the owner of the block of apartments where many of the victims were housed.


This is an article about his will, his executors and possible beneficiary.

I thought Epstein owned a lot of the apartments in that Manhattan building but Wexner owned it? Maybe that is old information though.

What good can those assets be to a person who is deceased? It feels like more conspirators are being shielded. MOO
 
I thought Epstein owned a lot of the apartments in that Manhattan building but Wexner owned it? Maybe that is old information though.

What good can those assets be to a person who is deceased? It feels like more conspirators are being shielded. MOO
I agree about conspirators being shielded. The article says Mark Epstein owned 150 apartments and rented some to his brother. I guess the freehold could be owned by Wexner. Jeffrey Epstein had power of attorney for Wexner at one time so I am sure there is a connection.

The article says

"Mark Epstein says he fears the non-profit Blood Center’s new facility will “kill the views” from the notorious property he owns nearby on 66th Street."

"Epstein owns most of the units in the 16-story condo building — more than 150 apartments in all, according to records.

Epstein rented “several apartments” to his now-dead brother Jeffrey, who would “keep” his underage girls he was sexually abusing in them, a lawyer for three underage girls alleged in 2009."

This Vanity Fair article explains a lot. It also says that Wexner was the former owner of the building.

 
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This article explains that the judge agreed with the defence that three of the charges were duplicitous and therefore the max sentence is reduced by 10 years. Sentencing is still next month though. I guess after that we will hear more about any appeal.

So counts 1, 3 and 5 will count as one offence with a max of 5 years, count 2 she was found not guilty and 4 and 6 are max of 5 and 40 years respectively. I make that a max of 50 though. Confusing.


From link-

"The judge agreed with the defense the conspiracy counts were "multiplicitous" because they charged the same offense.

"The overarching conspiracy — which, as the Government argued and proved at trial, employed a single 'playbook' to groom and sexually abuse underage girls — constitutes a single conspiracy offense with multiple victims," the decision said.

Maxwell is scheduled to be sentenced June 28.


"This legal conclusion in no way calls into question the factual findings made by the jury. Rather, it underscores that the jury unanimously found — three times over — that the Defendant is guilty of conspiring with Epstein to entice, transport, and traffic underage girls for sexual abuse," the decision said.

The conclusion does, however, reduce by 10 years the maximum possible prison time. Maxwell could be sentenced to as many as 55 years in prison. "

This link below, however, mentions a 40 year max. I think 40 would be the max if the sentence for each charge ran concurrently. As we previously discussed, as a first offender I don't believe she will get the max though. Sentencing is June 28th.


A jury found Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite accused of recruiting and grooming girls for deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein to abuse, guilty on five of the six charges against her in late December.

She was found not guilty of one charge: enticing a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts.

Maxwell could face a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison.


  • Count 1: Conspiracy to entice a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts - maximum sentence of five years
  • Count 2: Enticing a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts - maximum sentence of five years
  • Count 3: Conspiracy to transport a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity - maximum sentence of five years
  • Count 4: Transporting a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity - maximum sentence of 10 years
  • Count 5: Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors - maximum sentence of five years
  • Count 6: Sex trafficking of minors - maximum sentence of 40 years
 
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They are all in the little black book though, which has been published.


Team Maxwell preparing for sentencing. (on 28th June).


Also, someone is trying to kill her in jail.

 
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This is the prosecution view. Vanity Fair article. Wasn't it Vanity Fair that turned down the opportunity to expose Epstein twenty odd years ago IIRC?


Vanity Fair - who are also adults who made their own choices. Here is a 2022 report and their original March 2003 article.



"There will be trouble for your family if I don't like the article."
 
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This DM article has a copy of the defence sentencing report. Actually, having just started reading it, I see it is only 8 pages of 77 that are available initially in this article. I don't think I can manage 77 pages. I have read the 8, though, and they are recommending less than 5 years. (There are additional pages linked later on in the article.)

 
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