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Jeffrey Epstein Confidante Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested on Sex Abuse Charges

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and heiress who became a confidante of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and was later implicated in his alleged sexual crimes, has been arrested by the FBI. She was arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire, around 8:30 a.m. Thursday on charges she conspired...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Tresir]

The "who" she could possibly talk about is probably why she doesn't speak, but that person/people could be of way too many possibilities to name, for me. Just with the few we do know, just imagine how many names haven't come out yet. There are reasons why she is keeping quiet.

I think that they have all come out except for maybe a couple of names. It's way more than a few.

 

[Guess Who]

I think that they have all come out except for maybe a couple of names.

How would anybody know that? I'm pretty confident there were many more than we have heard about. Some powerful people are smart enough to live quietly. If you think there are only a few, that's even enough to have somebody make it worth for her to remain quiet about it.

 

[Tresir]

Pretty sure she's keeping quiet because it could possibly open up even more crimes she's been involved with.

The "who" she could possibly talk about is probably why she doesn't speak, but that person/people could be of way too many possibilities to name, for me. Just with the few we do know, just imagine how many names haven't come out yet. There are reasons why she is keeping quiet.

These articles pretty much cover everybody now so I think it's already all out there. As well as names on the flight logs. Now it's up to LE to take things forward re further prosecutions. Just one example is the NY apartment block owned by Epstein's brother, several apartments being rented to these young woman procured by Epstein for his clients.

The names of up to 200 John and Jane Does have been identified according to these two articles showing the info released just in the last few months, so I don't really know who you are referring to that haven't already been named. How would we even know? The first link below names over 130 alone.

The Epstein List: Full list of names revealed in unsealed court records so far

Prince Andrew, David Copperfield and Bill Clinton are among the names included in court documents published

www.independent.co.uk

Key takeaways from the unsealed Jeffrey Epstein documents

The filings stem from a now-settled litigation between Virginia Giuffre and Epstein’s fixer Ghislaine Maxwell

www.independent.co.uk

"More than 200 previously sealed court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced financier and registered sex offender, have been unsealed.

US judge Loretta Preska ordered that the court filings in a lawsuit brought against Ghislaine Maxwell by Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre must finally be unsealed and the names of up to 200 “John and Jane Does” unredacted.


She mentioned that many did not oppose the release of the documents. Judge Preska did instruct that certain names be kept redacted to protect the identities of sexual abuse victims.

The names of ten Jane Does mentioned in the filings remained under seal because their right to privacy as victims outweighed the public’s right to know. A J Doe, 107, has until 22 January to submit proof the release of their name will put them at risk of physical harm, and a request by a second J Doe, 110, to keep their name under seal is currently being reviewed by the court.


The list of names included a mix of prominent individuals, with the majority facing no allegations of misconduct. Those listed include “alleged victims, people not accused of wrongdoing…and absent third parties.”

Being identified through the court documents does not mean that the individual was involved in or aware of any wrongdoing by Epstein."

 

[Guess Who]

These articles pretty much cover everybody now so I think it's already all out there. As well as names on the flight logs. Now it's up to LE to take things forward re further prosecutions. Just one example is the NY apartment block owned by Epstein's brother, several apartments being rented to these young woman procured by Epstein for his clients.

The names of up to 200 John and Jane Does have been identified according to these two articles showing the info released just in the last few months, so I don't really know who you are referring to that haven't already been named. How would we even know? The first link below names over 130 alone.

The Epstein List: Full list of names revealed in unsealed court records so far

Prince Andrew, David Copperfield and Bill Clinton are among the names included in court documents published

www.independent.co.uk

Key takeaways from the unsealed Jeffrey Epstein documents

The filings stem from a now-settled litigation between Virginia Giuffre and Epstein’s fixer Ghislaine Maxwell

www.independent.co.uk

"More than 200 previously sealed court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced financier and registered sex offender, have been unsealed.

US judge Loretta Preska ordered that the court filings in a lawsuit brought against Ghislaine Maxwell by Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre must finally be unsealed and the names of up to 200 “John and Jane Does” unredacted.


She mentioned that many did not oppose the release of the documents. Judge Preska did instruct that certain names be kept redacted to protect the identities of sexual abuse victims.

The names of ten Jane Does mentioned in the filings remained under seal because their right to privacy as victims outweighed the public’s right to know. A J Doe, 107, has until 22 January to submit proof the release of their name will put them at risk of physical harm, and a request by a second J Doe, 110, to keep their name under seal is currently being reviewed by the court.


The list of names included a mix of prominent individuals, with the majority facing no allegations of misconduct. Those listed include “alleged victims, people not accused of wrongdoing…and absent third parties.”

Being identified through the court documents does not mean that the individual was involved in or aware of any wrongdoing by Epstein."

Why are you convinced this is all the people involved... Yet you admit there might be "a few" still unknown? Those few could be the very reason why she is staying quiet. Them still being unknown would definitely have to be because of their status and their ability to stay on the down low and their ability to keep others quiet.

 

[Guess Who]

And why are the ones listed on flight lights the only options?

 

[Tresir]

Why are you convinced this is all the people involved... Yet you admit there might be "a few" still unknown? Those few could be the very reason why she is staying quiet. Them still being unknown would definitely have to be because of their status and their ability to stay on the down low and their ability to keep others quiet.

And why are the ones listed on flight lights the only options?

I am believing Judge Preska who says there are just some still unidentified to protect victims. So the court knows who they all are. Did you read the links?

 

[Tresir]

This Miami Herald article explains everything about the unsealing.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article283358378.html

The names of 150 recruiters, associates and “affiliates” of sex traffickers Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell will be made public after the first of the year, a federal judge has ruled. The names of three people will remain sealed.

The ruling caps a five-year legal battle by the Miami Herald to obtain documents in a defamation lawsuit filed against Maxwell by victim Virginia Giuffre. The lawsuit was settled out of court in 2016, but much of the evidence in the case was sealed.

Most of the names set to be revealed are people associated with Epstein who are already publicly known, and it’s unclear whether the documents contain any new details about Epstein’s associations. The New York financier abused more than 100 young women and girls from 2002 to 2018, serving a short stint in the Palm Beach stockade more than a decade ago. He was re-arrested, this time by federal agents, in July 2019 after a Miami Herald investigative series, Perversion of Justice, brought attention new to his case.


He was found hanging by the neck in a New York jail cell in August of that year in what was ruled a suicide.

Most of the victims were high school girls from Palm Beach, where Epstein owned a home.


Senior U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska on Monday ordered the final cache of names unsealed in two weeks, allowing a 14-day window for appeals.

The judge described two of the three people whose names will remain sealed — J. Does 58 and 124 — as “classic outsiders peripheral to the events at issue” who are not associated with Epstein and Maxwell. A third, Doe 133, was mistakenly identified in a photo, according to the judge, who noted that Doe was characterized as “an alleged perpetrator” by a reporter. The judge did not further elaborate on her decision.

More at link.

 

[Guess Who]

I am believing Judge Preska who says there are just some still unidentified to protect victims. So the court knows who they all are. Did you read the links?

That's still just the ones known. We will most likely never know the true amount involved. I guarantee they don't know ALL involved.

 

[Tresir]

That's still just the ones known. We will most likely never know the true amount involved. I guarantee they don't know ALL involved.

Well I think you are wrong and the judge is right on this one. The judge should know.

Also there was a 14 day window for any appeals so any victims who knew any names not on the list should have contacted the court.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but I disagree on this one. Unless you can find anything to persuade me there are more.

 

[Guess Who]

Well I think you are wrong and the judge is right on this one. The judge should know.

Also there was a 14 day window for any appeals so any victims who knew any names not on the list should have contacted the court.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but I disagree on this one. Unless you can find anything to persuade me there are more.

Judges only have the info they are given.

 

[Tresir]

Another article on Maxwell's appeal plus conditions in the prison where she finally gets moved to an "honor dorm" apparently due to her endless complaining.

Ghislaine Maxwell moved to cushy 'honor dorm' at Florida prison

A federal appeals court may not overturn her 20-year sentence for pimping girls for Jeffrey Epstein - but at least Ghislaine Maxwell has escaped a violence-plagued prison wing nicknamed the 'snake pit'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Tresir]

Judges only have the info they are given.

Indeed.

 

[Tresir]

This is apparently a large fund set up for Epstein victims by JP Morgan bank. As at Nov 2023 the fund had paid out $290 million.

Judge Approves JPMorgan’s $290 Million Settlement With Epstein Victims

The nation’s largest bank was sued for ignoring red flags about Jeffrey Epstein’s sex-trafficking operation while he was a client.

www.nytimes.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

Another article on Maxwell's appeal plus conditions in the prison where she finally gets moved to an "honor dorm" apparently due to her endless complaining.

Ghislaine Maxwell moved to cushy 'honor dorm' at Florida prison

A federal appeals court may not overturn her 20-year sentence for pimping girls for Jeffrey Epstein - but at least Ghislaine Maxwell has escaped a violence-plagued prison wing nicknamed the 'snake pit'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is disgusting that bad behavior gets her rewarded in the long run and she jumps ahead of the line of women that have BEHAVED for a decade or more waiting for a SPOT in this cushy unit. It so matches up with what she is and what I think and we've always seen. It so matches a woman that could keep an endless supply of teens available to JE and abuse them or use them in that way so long as her needs are met. Who cares about ANYONE else. Lol she reports people, reports guards, complains, yet runs screaming like the coddled ninny she is without power to control, abuse, manipulate as was had in her former and outside life.

Like I said she digustsssss me to no end and this only confirms it further who and what she is. I don't have words strong enough.

HOW is it she was rewarded and got a coveted spot for nothing but the worst behavior? This is like the story of their lives with people like this. Or is it more that some money made its way into the right pocket...

Quite the article. Repeats itself many times throughout before reaching additional info further into it.

Skimmed recent posts and I will say perhaps there could have been others unknown but the bulk is likely known, I mean even the POPE was mentioned as visiting E Island. I guess there is a chance though that unrecorded guests exist. It seems likely most are known because big names are on the list but just a mention, people could come by boat, did he ever allow those in their own planes to land and so on. When one though has presidents, a prince and a Pope even known of, I'd say there's a pretty good chance almost all are known of. I didn't capitalize Pope the laptop did.

Here's another thought that popped into my head. The house was built and all of that back when. Over years things likely need to be fixed and new projects done. Did JE and GM reward and treat contractors and such too and provide them with all they may need or was it only the rich and powerful they did that for.... And they treated them as they treated their other "help".... We have major facilities that were built, on an island. A major home, a pool, all systems...

 

[Guess Who]

This is disgusting that bad behavior gets her rewarded in the long run and she jumps ahead of the line of women that have BEHAVED for a decade or more waiting for a SPOT in this cushy unit. It so matches up with what she is and what I think and we've always seen. It so matches a woman that could keep an endless supply of teens available to JE and abuse them or use them in that way so long as her needs are met. Who cares about ANYONE else. Lol she reports people, reports guards, complains, yet runs screaming like the coddled ninny she is without power to control, abuse, manipulate as was had in her former and outside life.

Like I said she digustsssss me to no end and this only confirms it further who and what she is. I don't have words strong enough.

HOW is it she was rewarded and got a coveted spot for nothing but the worst behavior? This is like the story of their lives with people like this. Or is it more that some money made its way into the right pocket...

Quite the article. Repeats itself many times throughout before reaching additional info further into it.

Skimmed recent posts and I will say perhaps there could have been others unknown but the bulk is likely known, I mean even the POPE was mentioned as visiting E Island. I guess there is a chance though that unrecorded guests exist. It seems likely most are known because big names are on the list but just a mention, people could come by boat, did he ever allow those in their own planes to land and so on. When one though has presidents, a prince and a Pope even known of, I'd say there's a pretty good chance almost all are known of. I didn't capitalize Pope the laptop did.

Here's another thought that popped into my head. The house was built and all of that back when. Over years things likely need to be fixed and new projects done. Did JE and GM reward and treat contractors and such too and provide them with all they may need or was it only the rich and powerful they did that for.... And they treated them as they treated their other "help".... We have major facilities that were built, on an island. A major home, a pool, all systems...

I have no doubt there are unlisted guests. He also had several properties so who knows who all attended his parties there. Many of his friends also probably had their own private jets so they wouldn't be on his logs. A lot of smaller aircraft don't have to file flight plans so I am positive many take advantage of that loophole.

Yes, she is no scapegoat. She is a criminal and where she needs to be.

 

[Tresir]

The "who" she could possibly talk about is probably why she doesn't speak, but that person/people could be of way too many possibilities to name, for me. Just with the few we do know, just imagine how many names haven't come out yet. There are reasons why she is keeping quiet.

She is writing a book apparently so maybe she will save it for that

 

[Tresir]

This is disgusting that bad behavior gets her rewarded in the long run and she jumps ahead of the line of women that have BEHAVED for a decade or more waiting for a SPOT in this cushy unit. It so matches up with what she is and what I think and we've always seen. It so matches a woman that could keep an endless supply of teens available to JE and abuse them or use them in that way so long as her needs are met. Who cares about ANYONE else. Lol she reports people, reports guards, complains, yet runs screaming like the coddled ninny she is without power to control, abuse, manipulate as was had in her former and outside life.

Like I said she digustsssss me to no end and this only confirms it further who and what she is. I don't have words strong enough.

HOW is it she was rewarded and got a coveted spot for nothing but the worst behavior? This is like the story of their lives with people like this. Or is it more that some money made its way into the right pocket...

Quite the article. Repeats itself many times throughout before reaching additional info further into it.

Skimmed recent posts and I will say perhaps there could have been others unknown but the bulk is likely known, I mean even the POPE was mentioned as visiting E Island. I guess there is a chance though that unrecorded guests exist. It seems likely most are known because big names are on the list but just a mention, people could come by boat, did he ever allow those in their own planes to land and so on. When one though has presidents, a prince and a Pope even known of, I'd say there's a pretty good chance almost all are known of. I didn't capitalize Pope the laptop did.

Here's another thought that popped into my head. The house was built and all of that back when. Over years things likely need to be fixed and new projects done. Did JE and GM reward and treat contractors and such too and provide them with all they may need or was it only the rich and powerful they did that for.... And they treated them as they treated their other "help".... We have major facilities that were built, on an island. A major home, a pool, all systems...

I think the prison got fed up with her complaining and she also has a cushy job in the legal dept where she has written her memoirs and is guarding them. Apparently they are not allowed to write a book as such but can write an account for their lawyer, which is how she got around it.

People like these are disgusting as well as all their rich and famous associates and they get away with it because of their perceived status.

 

[Tresir]

I have no doubt there are unlisted guests. He also had several properties so who knows who all attended his parties there. Many of his friends also probably had their own private jets so they wouldn't be on his logs. A lot of smaller aircraft don't have to file flight plans so I am positive many take advantage of that loophole.

Yes, she is no scapegoat. She is a criminal and where she needs to be.

They would fly into the bigger island and then use the helicopter to get to Little St Jeff as there is no runway AFAIK. Maxwell is a qualified heli pilot IIRC.

 

[Tresir]

This article is very informative about the VI Great and Little St. James' islands and how Epstein managed and controlled the Islands and who worked, visited and stayed there. Article dated 16th January 2024.

What really happened on Jeffrey Epstein’s island?

Accusers say billionaire’s private paradise of Little St James in US Virgin Islands was centre of international sex trafficking ring

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Tresir]

Where did Epstein get his money from to buy these islands and live this lifestyle? Does anyone know or has anyone investigated it?

ETA found a lot of articles - this one is the most recent.

How did Jeffrey Epstein make his money?

Jeffrey Epstein went from school drop-out to a high-flying financier before facing charges of running a sex trafficking network

www.independent.co.uk