Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Moscow murders: Police asking for help identifying a white Hyundai Elantra

Detectives are interested in speaking with the drivers of a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra, with an unknown license plate.
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Moscow murders: some personal belongings returned to families​

The Moscow Police Department said that they will be returning some of the victim's personal belongings to their families on Wednesday, Dec. 7 and, if it takes more time, into the next day as well.

In a press release dated on Tuesday, Dec. 6, the department stated that it will collect some belongings that are still in the residence where the murders took place and return those things to the families.

"The items will be loaded into a truck and transferred to a secure location until the families can collect the belongings," stated the release. "These arrangements were made in coordination with the families."

Police are asking that people who are near the house at that time to keep the roads clear. They furthered that while they are moving the belongings that they would like it to be kept as private as possible, "to maintain respect for the victims and their families." They also asked community members and the media to be "respectful of the process."

In addition, the Moscow Police have issued a video on their YouTube page that people can watch where the chief explains the department's handling of the victim's belongings. The video is only about a minute and thirty seconds long. In it, Fry states that the command team will be boxing up belongings tomorrow.

"It's time for us to get those things back that really mean something to those families," said Fry, "and hopefully to help wish some of their healing."

He also said he isn't directly tied into the investigative side of it, or interviewing people personally.

"We're at that point in the investigation where we're still gathering information, still gathering tips, still gathering evidence, we're still doing everything we need to do," said Fry.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
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Moscow murders: Police asking for help identifying a white Hyundai Elantra

Detectives are interested in speaking with the drivers of a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra, with an unknown license plate.
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Moscow murders: some personal belongings returned to families​

The Moscow Police Department said that they will be returning some of the victim's personal belongings to their families on Wednesday, Dec. 7 and, if it takes more time, into the next day as well.

In a press release dated on Tuesday, Dec. 6, the department stated that it will collect some belongings that are still in the residence where the murders took place and return those things to the families.

"The items will be loaded into a truck and transferred to a secure location until the families can collect the belongings," stated the release. "These arrangements were made in coordination with the families."

Police are asking that people who are near the house at that time to keep the roads clear. They furthered that while they are moving the belongings that they would like it to be kept as private as possible, "to maintain respect for the victims and their families." They also asked community members and the media to be "respectful of the process."

In addition, the Moscow Police have issued a video on their YouTube page that people can watch where the chief explains the department's handling of the victim's belongings. The video is only about a minute and thirty seconds long. In it, Fry states that the command team will be boxing up belongings tomorrow.

"It's time for us to get those things back that really mean something to those families," said Fry, "and hopefully to help wish some of their healing."

He also said he isn't directly tied into the investigative side of it, or interviewing people personally.

"We're at that point in the investigation where we're still gathering information, still gathering tips, still gathering evidence, we're still doing everything we need to do," said Fry.
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Did they clean the blood off of stuff?
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Does anyone have a suspect in their head? I'm NOT asking for names, because everyone that has been named has been essentially cleared as "not a suspect" at this time. And we know from other cases there's a real good chance it's someone we're not even aware of yet. Just curious what everyone is thinking at the moment. Someone already named that we know about? Or someone entirely off our radar right now (though hopefully / not necessarily off LE radar)?
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I haven't been thinking as much about who the perp as I have been about what kind of perp and I wonder if LE has consulted with a psychologist. I'd think they surely have...
 
I don't have time right now to catch up on posts here but after working a long shift (several in a row) watched two short videos tonight to try to keep up.

I thought this one some wise counsel. Hope to have some time in the next day or two to catch up, maybeeee.

 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Still haven't been able to confirm Xana and Ethan's whereabouts from after they apparently left the party around 9.
I wonder, did anyone SEE them leaving at 9? Or can just no one CONFIRM that they saw them after 9?
They need to be more clear about this. We don't care if you were participating in underage drinking, drug use, etc. This is a murder investigation!

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I would think they must've been in the area since they had their cell phones with them, right?
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Does anyone have a suspect in their head? I'm NOT asking for names, because everyone that has been named has been essentially cleared as "not a suspect" at this time. And we know from other cases there's a real good chance it's someone we're not even aware of yet. Just curious what everyone is thinking at the moment. Someone already named that we know about? Or someone entirely off our radar right now (though hopefully / not necessarily off LE radar)?
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I don't think it's anyone the public has named, no. Like in the Delphi case, I think it's going to be a local that shocks the general public. That's all I've got.
 
Regina said:
I haven't been thinking as much about who the perp as I have been about what kind of perp and I wonder if LE has consulted with a psychologist. I'd think they surely have...
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I had that DutyRon YouTube on last night while working on stuff and he had a criminal psychologist on there who wrote a book that sounds interesting and I'll link it below. She seems to think they have one, too.

Here's a link to her book, in case anyone is curious: SERIAL KILLERS: 101 Questions True Crime Fans Ask: Johnston, Joni: 9781952225512: Amazon.com: Books
 
Kimster said:
I had that DutyRon YouTube on last night while working on stuff and he had a criminal psychologist on there who wrote a book that sounds interesting and I'll link it below. She seems to think they have one, too.

Here's a link to her book, in case anyone is curious: SERIAL KILLERS: 101 Questions True Crime Fans Ask: Johnston, Joni: 9781952225512: Amazon.com: Books
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Thanks for all that info.! I'll definitely give that episode of Duty Ron a listen when I have more time to devote to it.
Joni Johnston is new to me and I found it interesting from her bio (at that link) that she "became interested in the dark side of human behavior after reading Helter Skelter", interesting because I think the same is true for so many of us.
But it's also interesting to me that the Manson case is referenced because I've thought about that case in terms of this one, not just for the obvious reasons but because there isn't an obvious motive. Indeed, it's occurred to me that had the Manson case never been solved, certainly the motive would have never been known, indeed, beyond imagination.
I think it's possible that- like in the Manson case- it could be the house that that led the perp there- that he was familiar with the house rather than the people inside, although I don't feel strongly about that...
Other than that- like you- I lean toward the perp being a local, possibly even living or had lived in the immediate vicinity, although, I tend to lean that way anytime a perp's entered a home...
 
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Investigators untangling the Idaho student slayings face a ‘daunting task’: Parsing the DNA

Victims' families and the public are growing impatient with police investigating the University of Idaho stabbings. But analyzing evidence could take weeks.
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Investigators untangling the Idaho student slayings face a ‘daunting task’: Parsing the DNA​

The search for whoever fatally stabbed four University of Idaho students last month includes examining an enormous amount of biological and digital evidence, a kaleidoscope of potential clues — some obvious, some unseen and some that may lead to wrong answers.

No suspect has been publicly identified, no weapon has been found, and police have said little about what they’ve learned, as the small college town of Moscow has become the focus of widespread grief, anger and speculation.

A break could come at any moment, from a confession or the thousands of tips submitted to police. But in the absence of a sudden development, investigators are relying on forensic techniques to tackle a case, in a time-consuming process that appears unusually complex, according to a half-dozen experts in crime-scene analysis and evidence gathering.

“This is a case that only the most experienced crime techs can solve and answer,” said Jennifer Coffindaffer, who worked 25 years as an FBI agent and investigated violent crimes. “It’s going to take a long, long time.”

Coffindaffer and the other experts told NBC News that the forensic investigation may be complicated by the chaotic nature of the murders, the layout of the rented house where the victims were found and the likelihood that many students hung out or partied there. Collecting and processing hundreds of DNA samples and then looking for a potential suspect’s genetic profile could take weeks or months, the experts said.

“I know it’s frustrating to people, but murder investigations are not a spectator event,” said Howard Ryan, a former commander of a crime scene unit in the New Jersey State Police who is now a consultant for law enforcement. “People are influenced by TV shows. They believe that these events and processing and work happens at a much more rapid pace and results are obtained much quicker than they really are.”

Although blood can be a crucial source of DNA, investigators don’t know from the start which is the victims’ and which could be from a suspect. The same thing goes for other potential clues left behind. So investigators have to collect a lot of specimens.

“You can’t assume each drop of blood is from the same person,” said David Carter, a professor of criminal justice at Michigan State University and former Kansas City, Missouri, police officer who specializes in homicide investigations and intelligence. “You have to sample them all and analyze them all to see if they belong to victims or a suspect. It’s very time intensive. They’re trying to find hairs, footprints from shoes, fingerprints — anything like that.”

Authorities in Idaho could be waiting on the outcomes of forensic analyses, which can take weeks or months to complete, he said.

“They’ve got to look at it all,” Carter said. “It’s laborious. Really laborious.”

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Idaho murders update: Police are re-interviewing people about new tips

Kaylee Goncalves' mother recently expressed concern over police ruling out some individuals, saying some "were cleared very fast."
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Idaho Murders Update: Police Are Re-Interviewing People About New Tips​

Moscow Police Chief James Fry said this week that investigators are re-interviewing some people following new tips about the investigation into the fatal stabbing of four University of Idaho students.

"We've actually re-interviewed people two or three times because we'll get tips, or we'll get information that we need to verify again, and sometimes we need to ask the questions just a little bit different to ensure that we're getting the proper information to continue on with this investigation," Fry said during an interview with Fox News' The Story. "So, that happens regularly in all investigations. We always have the option of re-interviewing."


Former FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer also made similar remarks to Newsweek on Tuesday, saying that even after police say a person is not believed to be involved, there's a "possibility" they can re-interview them.

"When you interview somebody, you're trying to get every piece of information on anyone who may be involved," Coffindaffer said, adding that investigators do not "put on blinders" after one interview.

"Any good case agent, any good detective, people who have done these cases, who have gone down one road and then realized far down that it was the wrong road, are going to maintain a very open-mindedness and be open to any new evidence," Coffindaffer added.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Hopefully they get this vehicle identified quickly. Very promising!
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I’m super curious to find out more about this vehicle!

There’s also a body cam of some police officers at 3 AM that are quite a ways from the house but you can see a light going off in the upstairs. Very eerie. I don’t remember where I saw that link because I’ve been looking at too many YouTube videos tonight! But I’m sure it’ll be all over the news tomorrow.
 
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